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Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:54 pm**

I'm Just wondering... What are your thoughts on the "Occupy Wall Street movement/protests?
Good, bad, or indifferent?

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:01 am**

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:59 am**

Rich hipsters who have too much time. I agree with some of their points, the way they're going about it is completely and utterly retarded, makes me hate the fact that I agree even a small part of their agenda.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:13 am**

SM-Count wrote:Rich hipsters who have too much time. I agree with some of their points, the way they're going about it is completely and utterly retarded, makes me hate the fact that I agree even a small part of their agenda.

^this.. A small part of me agrees with a tiny bit of what they're standing for kinda in a way... I just wouldn't be shitting on the sidewalk to get my point across.

Would say "NB4FLAMEWAR" but most the forum is pretty progressive, so a lot of patting each other on the back and ass slapping to be had in this thread. :sohappy:

-Edit- Just watch Fury's post. I swear I heard speeches exactly like this at a couple Tea Party rallies. I still don't get why the Democrats are standing behind these protestors when their agenda is almost that of the TPs. Neither likes big business running the show, and neither liked the bailouts passed under Bush or Obama. I think where the fork in the road come in is; one wants Government to run their lives and the other wants it out of their lives.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:33 am**

Rich hipsters, hobos, gullible beings, people who are too stupid to get a decent paying job or graduate from college, and Michael Moore fans. Their "movement" has no clear focus and all they're doing is just bitching about how much they believe their life sucks in comparison with wealthy people. I saw the news at work when they asked Michael Moore and some Asian guy about what they intend to accomplish; they basically said that they're just sick of the current system (capitalism) but they don't have an alternative in mind, yet, but they will eventually come up with something sometime during the protest.

:roll:

It's unbelievable how dumb people can get to actually join an aimless movement like this. I still don't get what they intend to accomplish by attempting to block the traffic at Brooklyn bridge today other than fuck the day up for other lower to middle-class people who drive/commute through the bridge during rush hour. I almost wish some wealthy fuck would fly a chopper right above them and tell them to "suck it" via megaphone.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:24 pm**

They're in the Netherlands too. They just recently started a camp at my parent's city (Arnhem). I walked by their camp two weeks ago and the stench was just unbelievable. The whole camp smelled of alcohol and marihuana. They're only making it worse for themselfes. Everyone that walks by their camp now thinks they're just a bunch of junkies.

Even though some parts of their message are true, they're taking the wrong actions.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:53 pm**

Stupid people.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:42 pm**

heroo wrote:They're in the Netherlands too. They just recently started a camp at my parent's city (Arnhem). I walked by their camp two weeks ago and the stench was just unbelievable. The whole camp smelled of alcohol and marihuana. They're only making it worse for themselfes. Everyone that walks by their camp now thinks they're just a bunch of junkies.

Even though some parts of their message are true, they're taking the wrong actions.

Honestly i don't know what those people are protesting about, I don't think anybody in holland has anything to complain about everbody has chance of a good future. And if you don't get a good future here 99% of the time its your own fault

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:11 pm**

People always act like they know everything better.

4 out of 10 dutch people want our old coin back cos of the crisis nowadays. That'd be economical suicide, they don't understand economics at all and simply shout they want the 'gulden' back because they think it was better in the past (which was an entirely different situation).

At the same time i find it hilarious that Obama tells Europe to get their financial situation straight. Forgot where the problem came from (and still is) Obama?

Occupy people are just like that- in general almost all of them don't even know what they're protesting for, they just agree with anything they're told.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:16 pm**

Gladiator_RN wrote:Stupid people.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:29 pm**

LillDev!l wrote:People always act like they know everything better.

4 out of 10 dutch people want our old coin back cos of the crisis nowadays. That'd be economical suicide, they don't understand economics at all and simply shout they want the 'gulden' back because they think it was better in the past (which was an entirely different situation).

At the same time i find it hilarious that Obama tells Europe to get their financial situation straight. Forgot where the problem came from (and still is) Obama?

Occupy people are just like that- in general almost all of them don't even know what they're protesting for, they just agree with anything they're told.

Whats most funny is all those poeple are saying the goverment is doing everything back. But since they are there all day long and camp out there i'm pretty sure they are getting goverment checks lmao

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:57 pm**

While I personally couldn't care less about the occupy movement's greater goal I think what they're doing is perfectly fine. It's not important if they're smart people or not, they have the right to protest and if they can do so in relative peace then they can just keep on 'fighting' for their cause.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:58 pm**

HIPSTERS. HIPSTERS EVERYWHERE.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:19 pm**

Well, It seems peaceful so far.

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Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:26 pm**

woutR wrote:While I personally couldn't care less about the occupy movement's greater goal I think what they're doing is perfectly fine. It's not important if they're smart people or not, they have the right to protest and if they can do so in relative peace then they can just keep on 'fighting' for their cause.

Protesting is a giving right and there is nothing wrong with it at all, However when busnisses and company start suffering because of the protesting, losing money etc i think its going to far

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:48 pm**

I dont know why there would be occupy peoples in netherlands lol, they are already all hippies

I dont see anything with it in the US, i mean the right already has a mass movement filled with retards let the left have some voice too

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:01 pm**

Fury wrote:

Oh, and I like how he's like, "GOLD AND SILVER ARE MONEY BUT DOLLARS AREN'T". Which is false. Only reason gold and silver are worth anything, is because people assumed, and have assumed for centuries, that they were. When in fact, it's just a semi-rare rock. That's all.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:47 pm**

_Dutchy_ wrote:However when busnisses and company start suffering because of the protesting, losing money etc i think its going to far

I kind of agree with you. Well, there's no reason to why keeping people who do have jobs from getting to work!
I don't get this at all.

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:22 am**

I am somewhat neutral about the matter. I do however understand the need for change. Our current socioeconomic system isn't working and at the same time we've become too dependent on it. It will have have to collapse on itself before we see any radical change in the near future.

The protestors should adopt other methods in conjunction with their protesting...Methods like abstinence from a system that seems to only benefit the rich. Stop buying what you want and only buy what you need. Abandon the lifestyle that feeds the rich altogether.

I met a guy who happened to be a carpenter that built his own house. It took him over a year with the help of his brother and father. His house is now valued at $700,000.00 according to appraisals and he doesn't owe the bank anything. Hence he's not a debt slave for the next 30 years working only to feed a greedy monetary system.

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:31 am**

Tasdik wrote:
Fury wrote:

Oh, and I like how he's like, "GOLD AND SILVER ARE MONEY BUT DOLLARS AREN'T". Which is false. Only reason gold and silver are worth anything, is because people assumed, and have assumed for centuries, that they were. When in fact, it's just a semi-rare rock. That's all.

I think he meant in the lines of, right now the dollar is not backed up by anything- they could print as much as they wanted. Before it was backed by silver/gold which meant they couldnt just keep printing without being able to back it up.

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:40 am**

The OWS movement has grown so large in size that it can't be generalized, there's just too many people involved. Yes, you see the hipsters... but it's only ignorant to see this as the whole movement. Tons of people take part in the movement, 'normal' people with jobs and families to take care of. The message the protests are trying to get out has also expanded significantly. The main focus of the protests is the fact that corporations can use their wealth (or lack thereof) to influence government in all areas. With the mass of people taking part in the protests now though, the things people protest has also increased (i.e. useless wars, police brutality, etc...)

We've been talking about the OWS stuff a lot on my english class and I really haven't seen many people oppose it like here. Mind to expand on your arguements on why you don't or partially not support it?

~ Avent

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:43 am**

Aventuris wrote:The OWS movement has grown so large in size that it can't be generalized, there's just too many people involved. Yes, you see the hipsters... but it's only ignorant to see this as the whole movement. Tons of people take part in the movement, 'normal' people with jobs and families to take care of. The message the protests are trying to get out has also expanded significantly. The main focus of the protests is the fact that corporations can use their wealth (or lack thereof) to influence government in all areas. With the mass of people taking part in the protests now though, the things people protest has also increased (i.e. useless wars, police brutality, etc...)

We've been talking about the OWS stuff a lot on my english class and I really haven't seen many people oppose it like here. Mind to expand on your arguements on why you don't or partially not support it?

~ Avent

its cool to be against everything popular in the real world on teh internetz

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:25 am**

_Dutchy_ wrote:
woutR wrote:While I personally couldn't care less about the occupy movement's greater goal I think what they're doing is perfectly fine. It's not important if they're smart people or not, they have the right to protest and if they can do so in relative peace then they can just keep on 'fighting' for their cause.

Protesting is a giving right and there is nothing wrong with it at all, However when busnisses and company start suffering because of the protesting, losing money etc i think its going to far

Umm, that's the point of a protest/strike is to inconvenience people and the main idea behind the protest which is about the massive amounts of money these huge corporation make. The only people losing money are the corporations which they are protesting (They really actually aren't loosing money to be honest) and the big banks screwing over people which people have peacefully switched over to Credit unions, which they are free to do.

@UnbeatableDevil- That is awfully ignorant to say, he can have his own opinions so why the **** does it mean he's trying to be cool for stating them on the internet in a thread which asks people for their opinion?

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:56 am**

Also, the damage to businesses is very minor when compared to the size of the movement. A sit-in style protest or a march through town is completely legal as long as it is violent free, which for the most part it is. There is always people who tend to go to extreme lenghts and cause damage.

I really encourage each and every one of you to do a little bit of your own research, especially towards police brutality during these protests. People are only allowed into certain parts of New York now after showing a valid reason for needing to enter said area. Police checkpoints are set up and people are requested to show identification. What happened to our rights? Do we not have a right of peaceful assembly and free speech?

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:25 am**

_Dutchy_ wrote:And if you don't get a good future here 99% of the time its your own fault

I must be the 1%

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:58 am**

Government isn't helping us out enough and we're uniting to make a difference? Good, I'll trash struggling small business owners like myself and vandalize food carts that are feeding us. THAT'LL SHOW THEM.
I bet over half of the protesters don't even understand what they are protesting..

America. We can't fund anything in our own country, but we can fund wars with other countries.

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:40 am**

I'm not American or a minority or anything, hell I'm just a white Australian, but I don't really see what's all too wrong with our system. My government schooled me for crazy low prices, school fees were like $150 per year. Cheap as chips. My health system has looked after me whenever I have been ill and I barely fork out money for it. The government provided me with facilities to chase my dream: I studied Systems Administration at Tafe and it only cost $2000 per year. Now I have a secure job, I've moved out of home, I'm paying off my car and I'm living comfortably (as long as I budget effectively) on just over my countries minimum wage. Hell, life is pretty darn easy if you ask me. I'm 21 years old and I'm setting myself up for a successful career thanks to the support I've been given by my government.

Maybe the system is completely different in America, who knows. Maybe everyone is struggling to live and maybe no one is given the schooling and the such. But if your country is anything like my country than things aren't as bad as you may think.

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:46 am**

The world is in a pitiful state.

My friend was telling me how this could actually change things. That maybe tuition won't keep going up. Education won't keep getting cut. Interest rates on loans will go down. Laws that regulate and control the market could be put in place. Jobs. Homes. The military etc And a host of other ridiculous nonsense. I told him he was a fool.

Nothing ever changes. The people in charge are going to stay in charge and he should learn that deal with it. If you're born poor the odds are stacked incredibly high that you will die poor. And your kids will be poor and probably plentiful.

Again, the world is in a pitiful state. The current economic crisis isn't the problem. It's like finding the tumor but the cancer has probably spread throughout your entire body and even if it seems like it's going into remission that really just means a matter of time. If you're going to do absolutely nothing about this problem but bitch and moan about the only people trying to highlight a facet of it you're a bit of a tool. Which is fine as long as you acknowledge that but I have a feeling most of you are looking at these protesters with smug sense of "don't they look stupid :roll:

" when you're just as far up shit creek as them, you just don't have the sense to know it or gall to do something about it. Or you're the 1% which i doubt because you were playing SRO at some point and SRO is for poor people. And Nightbloom.

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:35 pm**

dom wrote:
_Dutchy_ wrote:And if you don't get a good future here 99% of the time its your own fault

I must be the 1%

Was talking in my country =P

Besides your canadian become a lumberjack Lmao

Posted: **Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:22 pm**

Ofc some people will negatively affected by the protests- but that doesnt mean you should take the right to protest ~,~.
And generalizing everyone thats in the protests as "hipsters" is ignorant - every protest will have people that are there just to cause problems
Just cause you dont think you cant affect & cause changes doesnt mean those that do try to make changes are stupid

From what i can see:
They are against dumb wars
They are against business subsidies (i never get why some people think govt should be out of business but they support subsidies)
Bailouts (again same as above^)
They are for education+
They are against the high costs for running for office- especially corporations/special interests (like unions) being able to make large donations to candidates

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