Well, science clearly can not answer any of the important questions we have. Right? Instead it can only give us an guess that could end up being complete bs. lulz So what are your thoughts on Science: Is science "really" necessary?
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:49 pm
by EvGa
You best be troll'in.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:14 pm
by asusi
My face when i entered this thread.
Spoiler!
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:16 pm
by LaloHao
EvGa wrote:You best be troll'in.
Indeed i mean wtf
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:34 pm
by Dante
And so it begins once again.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:35 pm
by Rosato
Of course! That's like asking if breathing is necessary!
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:36 pm
by BuDo
If you're gonna ask if science is necessary then you might as well ask if anything else we know is necessary.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:52 pm
by cbkilla
BuDo wrote:If you're gonna ask if science is necessary then you might as well ask if anything else we know is necessary.
Except religion of course
Spoiler!
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:16 pm
by *BlackFox
Damn, calm down. xD
There's a lot of science out there that is completely ridiculous and has no scientific basis. No? So.. why waste time/money doing a study/experiment like that? And why tell us completely crap that they can't prove anything.
Well, Let's say one day scientist would say one thing that their experiment/study or whatever suggest the results And the next day another scientist do the same thing and changes the theory. Isn't that quite annoying?
So.. Does science really explain everything?
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:28 pm
by Hapjap
*BlackFox wrote:Damn, calm down. xD
There's a lot of science out there that is completely ridiculous and has no scientific basis. No? So.. why waste time/money doing a study/experiment like that? And why tell us completely crap that they can't prove anything.
Well, Let's say one day scientist would say one thing that their experiment/study or whatever suggest the results And the next day another scientist do the same thing and changes the theory. Isn't that quite annoying?
So.. Does science really explain everything?
science that has no scientific basis? ...that isn't science in the first place. its called pseudo science.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:49 pm
by BuDo
*BlackFox wrote:Damn, calm down. xD
There's a lot of science out there that is completely ridiculous and has no scientific basis. No? So.. why waste time/money doing a study/experiment like that? And why tell us completely crap that they can't prove anything.
Well, Let's say one day scientist would say one thing that their experiment/study or whatever suggest the results And the next day another scientist do the same thing and changes the theory. Isn't that quite annoying?
So.. Does science really explain everything?
Why harp on science? Nothing we do can completely and fully explain everything and that goes for science and everything else that we try to use and explain stuff.... So like I said you might as well question the significance of everything.... People just naturally want to know or find things out that's all.
And if you want to get technical... scientific discoveries has made possible a huge amount of the conveniences you enjoy today like posting your question here for example. And I'm sure someone just like you now was skeptical about the pursuit of those discoveries and thought they were a waste of time and money.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:57 pm
by Goseki
*BlackFox wrote:Damn, calm down. xD
There's a lot of science out there that is completely ridiculous and has no scientific basis. No? So.. why waste time/money doing a study/experiment like that? And why tell us completely crap that they can't prove anything.
Well, Let's say one day scientist would say one thing that their experiment/study or whatever suggest the results And the next day another scientist do the same thing and changes the theory. Isn't that quite annoying?
So.. Does science really explain everything?
What you're referring to is pseudo-science, not actual science. Real science relies on peer-reviews making it much more legit and verified than other methods of thought. Unlike religion where one person says something, it's recorded, and it is taken as true. Science work by making sure a finding is verified several times before being published.
If Science isn't necessary, then neither are computers, internet, pens, paper, cars, planes, etc. If you're happy living in the stone age, writing your thoughts down with blood or crushed leaves on a piece of wood, be my guest. I love science and not being ignorant.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:10 pm
by SM-Count
I can tell you with 95% confidence that it's necessary.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:30 pm
by Shomari
just passing through here.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:04 pm
by strangelove
I think your sentiments are understandable but they're incredibly misguided.
Fundamental cornerstones of reality cannot be explained very well by people who are also bound by those same cognitive limitations. Descriptors of simple things would simply be boiled down to similes or metaphors with no real objective meaning behind them. Science fixes this by allowing people to put objective value that will be true no matter who the observer is.
Science is nothing more than a filter for gathering knowledge through simple observation, and as such, no one can hold any evidence hostage because if a statements is true, then it will continue being true no matter who is conducting the experiment or observation. If it is false, then any capable being can debunk it. When everything is empirical, testable, and verifiable there is not much wiggle-room to allow anyone to abuse that system. You seem to subscribe to the idea that because new evidence is presented all the time, then therefore science loses all credibility, but science does not function to deliver absolutes as you seem to think it does. A system that is able to accept new information through verification will always trump any system that refuses to acknowledge that new information even exists. If someone is often wrong but never admits it, that does not mean they've made fewer mistakes.
It's very common for laymen to throw around words like 'theory' in a dismissive tone as if to imply that such notions are nothing but off-the-cuff remarks postulated by someone without any real foundation or basis for doing so. The problem is that if you don't understand the basic fundamentals of science, what a scientific theory actually is, or how the science process works, then no one will ever convince you that it is necessary for the betterment of society and creating even more advanced fields of academia.
TL;DR- Yep
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:26 pm
by EvGa
^^ And that is why this forum needs a rep system!!
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:59 pm
by NuclearSilo
Wrong question.
"Is science necessary" (for what) ?
It's necessary for human survival and conform It's not necessary to have a happy life. It's not necessary to have faith in life.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:09 pm
by *BlackFox
I can kind of agree with strangelove post there. It was pretty well written.
EvGa wrote:^^ And that is why this forum needs a rep system!!
But that isn't necessarily.. lulz
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:28 pm
by XMoshe
I'm pretty sure that some of that seemingly useless research has brought us some great things. I wouldn't know any of them from the top of my head but yeah.
Besides that I don't care enough to truly give my two cents.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:40 pm
by inky
NuclearSilo wrote:Wrong question.
"Is science necessary" (for what) ?
It's necessary for human survival and conform It's not necessary to have a happy life. It's not necessary to have faith in life.
It is necessary for survival. The scientific method is not limited to the confines of a laboratory. If someone never conducted experiments on fire and its benefits, I doubt very much you'd be cooking food today. If people never figured out what is edible and what can cause harm, you may not be too eager to eat a steak or die from eating pufferfish poison.
It's not necessary for everyone in order to have a "happy life" but it can make life a lot easier and perhaps less miserable than if we never did research on disease prevention and discovering cures for different illnesses. (Oh hey vaccine)
Faith in life...well, one might find it in science, some might not.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:38 pm
by dom
This thread makes me rage.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:24 pm
by *BlackFox
dom wrote:This thread makes me rage.
What's the possible reason for that?
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:56 pm
by MrJoey
Because you're a complete idiot.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:09 am
by Mirosuke
dom wrote:This thread makes me rage.
oh noes, it raged a mod. oh noess!!11
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:11 am
by mushrooms
You guys are taking what BF said too literally. I think he is referring to those ridiculous scientific studies you often hear on the news.
Sure some scientific studies leads to dead ends, but many provide invaluable information or new methods that can be applied to real life. Some ventures lead to useful discoveries on accident (see x-ray for example).
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:28 am
by Azilius
MrJoey wrote:Because you're a complete idiot.
How rude
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:10 am
by CrimsonNuker
And I just lost a little more faith in humanity.
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:30 am
by TheDrop
This is the biggest troll thread evar. And BF's a master at looking innocent and oblivious
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:07 am
by Skyve
"...lulz".
Re: Is Science Necessary?
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:31 am
by *BlackFox
Tell me one thing @MrJoey Should state money support "Bad" and "Completely Ridiculous" science?
