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14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:42 am
by .curve
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,5925781.storyhttp://www.scpr.org/news/2011/07/05/onx ... e-killing/The story here is a sad one. A little boy named Lawrence King was undoubtedly and unabashedly gay. He was teased a lot during his short life for his effeminate ways. Finally, in the weeks leading up to the shooting, he starting owning his sexuality. He started dressing in heels and wearing makeup. Some say he started to say to other boys, "I love you."
Brandon McInerney, another boy, shot him twice in the head during a computer class.
The prosecution of this case revolves not around Brandon's guilt, but motive. District Attorneys contend that Brandon admired White Supremacy, and a tenet of those beliefs is that gays are abhorrent and worthless. The defense argues that young Larry's homosexual advances drove Brandon to an emotional breaking point, which ultimately led to the shooting.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:56 am
by DinoNuggets
Shit like this makes me hate all those douche bag kids that go around schools thinking their big shit by making fun of people who are different than them. if i were at that school i would have beat the living shit out of him just for saying he would bring a hand gun to school.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:59 am
by dynamies
Freaks.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:14 am
by M3K0S
I really dont have anything against gay people, I have gay friends and I enjoy spending time with them. But I would really feel awkward if they showed up out of nowhere with high heels and dresses.... My gay friends even call those obnoxious people ****... and they separate themselves from them... and telling people "i love you" is pushing the limit.
Still not hardcore enough to get shot to death though... but close
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:17 am
by DinoNuggets
M3K0S wrote:I really dont have anything against gay people, I have gay friends and I enjoy spending time with them. But I would really feel awkward if they showed up out of nowhere with high heels and dresses.... My gay friends even call those obnoxious people ****... and they separate themselves from them... and telling people "i love you" is pushing the limit.
Still not hardcore enough to get shot to death though... but close
i agree i remember last year some gay kid showed up to school in a adult diaper to school and most of the gay kids called him gayer than gay... those kinds of gays should get a little help lol not saying its bad but cmon' really?
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:25 am
by grsb
I work with a gay guy, he's pre cool.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:26 am
by woutR
how can the defense expect to get voluntary manslaughter if the dude brought a gun from home to school and ended up shooting someone to death? This is premeditated as hell, should be easy enough for the prosecution.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:27 am
by Nick Invaders
dude wat. I live like 10-20 mins away from Oxnard.
Sad story. I know some gay kids at my school. Not friends with many of them, but the ones I am friends with are pretty cool. I think Lawrence kinda went a little far with it though. The way he was acting, I wouldn't want to be with the guy, but he sure as hell didn't deserve to get shot.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:34 am
by dynamies
shouldnt be there more investigation?
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:14 am
by Mirosuke
14-yo with a gun? Neat.
Parents these days...
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:09 pm
by .curve
woutR wrote:how can the defense expect to get voluntary manslaughter if the dude brought a gun from home to school and ended up shooting someone to death? This is premeditated as hell, should be easy enough for the prosecution.
The defense's case is that the boy who was shot pushed the other boy to an emotional breaking point by his actions and the things he was saying to him.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:11 pm
by heroo
I'd rather be a gay than a murderer.
Even though the victim was possibly one of those annoying homo's, no one has the right to end another one's life. And especially when it's about something stupid like this.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:54 pm
by *BlackFox
Enjoy rotting in prison. to say the least
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:15 pm
by woutR
.curve wrote:woutR wrote:how can the defense expect to get voluntary manslaughter if the dude brought a gun from home to school and ended up shooting someone to death? This is premeditated as hell, should be easy enough for the prosecution.
The defense's case is that the boy who was shot pushed the other boy to an emotional breaking point by his actions and the things he was saying to him.
Yes I know what the defense is arguing, but imo that goes out the window when you take a gun to school to kill someone.
From wikipedia:
Voluntary Manslaughter sometimes called a "Heat of Passion" murder, is any intentional killing that involved
no prior intent to kill, and which was committed under such circumstances that would "cause a reasonable person to become emotionally or mentally disturbed."
First Degree Murder is any murder that is willful and premeditated. Felony Murder is typically first degree.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:02 pm
by Swindler
Crazy shit. Tho if some dude did the same shit to me I would get pretty pissed too, but pissed enough to shoot the gay kid? No.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:06 pm
by Toshiharu
Mirosuke wrote:14-yo with a gun? Neat.
Parents these days...
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:45 pm
by Goseki
Mirosuke wrote:14-yo with a gun? Neat.
Parents these days...
+2
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:11 pm
by XMoshe
As the others said, I blame the parents. I didn't read the story (the links and shit) but I assume he took his fathers gun or something. Teach your kids some morals people, dayum.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:31 pm
by EvGa
Um, I blame the kid. Without access to a gun his psychotic ass would have probably stabbed the poor kid to death.
BRB - Guns and parents fault, murderer not accountable.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:44 pm
by William-CL
I hate that Defense attorneys would defend something as blatant an obviously disturbing as this and use an excuse as stupid as "He was drove to an emotional breaking point". It seems it a little premeditated to me. Why would the gun have even been brought by him? And what the **** are his parents teaching him?
If a gay person said "I love you" to me, I'd be pretty weirder out, but at most tell him to Stfu. This kid needs locked up for life. Especially if he's gonna shoot someone for being Gay in today's society.
The irony here is, In prison he's gonna be "Gay"
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:51 pm
by woutR
EvGa wrote:Um, I blame the kid. Without access to a gun his psychotic ass would have probably stabbed the poor kid to death.
BRB - Guns and parents fault, murderer not accountable.
Location: Texas
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:53 pm
by EvGa
I knew that was coming.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:58 pm
by William-CL
Everyone is accountable for their own actions. He chose to kill him. His Fault. His parents also share the blame for obviously not raising him proper.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:11 pm
by Azilius
Blackdragon6 wrote:Everyone is accountable for their own actions. He chose to kill him. His Fault. His parents also share the blame for obviously not raising him proper.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:20 pm
by William-CL
Azilius wrote:Blackdragon6 wrote:Everyone is accountable for their own actions. He chose to kill him. His Fault. His parents also share the blame for obviously not raising him proper.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense
They "Claim", but they still did it. They are still accountable and should therefore be held responsible and punished as such. If they are claiming to be insane, why would they ever be allowed to walk free again if they couldn't control their actions? Life Sentence seems right in this case of a brutal murder.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:50 pm
by Azilius
Blackdragon6 wrote:Azilius wrote:Blackdragon6 wrote:Everyone is accountable for their own actions. He chose to kill him. His Fault. His parents also share the blame for obviously not raising him proper.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense
They "Claim", but they still did it. They are still accountable and should therefore be held responsible and punished as such. If they are claiming to be insane,
why would they ever be allowed to walk free again if they couldn't control their actions? Life Sentence seems right in this case of a brutal murder.
It's a lot more complicated than being able to 'walk free', but they don't receive a life sentence.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:15 pm
by .curve
EvGa wrote:Um, I blame the kid. Without access to a gun his psychotic ass would have probably stabbed the poor kid to death.
BRB - Guns and parents fault, murderer not accountable.
Actually, the article said that in some of the other kid's testimonies, they mentioned that the murderer had said that he planned to "rush the other kid after school" or even "shank him" so your conclusion isn't too far fetched.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:14 am
by Love
These forums are full of fa g gots without an ounce of virtue that aren't any better than that kid, you don't have to look too far to find such hateful and uncalled for behavior and as far as I can tell actions in these very forums reinforce that mentality even if I chose not to account for the opposite.
and no fa g gots was not used to describe h o m o s e xuals. You know who I am bussy hating ? No1, and by no1 I mean no1 who isn't trying to pull a gun on me.
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:56 am
by _Clitrix_
i thought most american schools had Metal detectors?
Re: 14 Year Old Shoots Gay Classmate to Death
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:26 am
by EvGa
Love wrote:No1, and by no1 I mean no1 who isn't trying to pull a gun on me.
Do you know how many times I had to read that sentence to figure out what you were trying to say!!!
Clit, not really.
