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Just wondering if anyone else shares the same sentiment as I do about violent criminals such as rapists, murderers, armed robbers, and others. I never understood the point of "rehabilitation" or "correctional facilities" for these criminals. If you deprive someone of their rights then you've already given yours up - simple as that. In addition, a lot of these people commit more crimes after they're released and a lot of them even get free taxpayer-funded organ transplants and other privileges most people have to pay for. I find it sad that our society is ruled by these righteous pricks who see themselves as moral authorities and promote "criminal rights."

So, my question is:

"What do you think should be done regarding people who committed unprovoked violent crimes?"

If they didn't get Rehabilitation, then the chances of a repeat offender is much higher. If they are treated poorly, there is little chance they will be "kind" to others. People can change, but do they change? Only they can know so they will always be scum to me.
Armed Robbery is also not nearly the same as rape/murder and is usually an act of desperation. Not often Violent as it is Intimidation.

As for their rights, are you talking after or during incarceration?

Rights in general. Before, during, and after incarceration.

Well, the reason why I don't intend to rehabilitate them is because I would much rather send them to something that resembles a concentration camp complete with slave labor, torture, mistreatment, organ harvesting plants, and gas chambers. So rather than risk having potential repeat offenders on the streets, they would simply be worked/tortured to death. My problem with rehabilitation is that it provides these criminals with more opportunities to commit more crimes. And even if they don't, what kind of justice is that for the family?

The point, for me, is that these laws are more focused on serving these criminals rather than pursuing true justice - for the victims and their families/loved ones. I never understood how people could be so opposed to milking these criminals for everything they have until they die. I mean, they're violent criminals. Therefore, whatever punishment given to them would be justice. Sure, it won't bring back whatever their victims lost but it sure as hell is a lot better than giving them the opportunity to live a decent life while the victim and/or the family members of the victim pay the price.

I think people simply need to learn how to get the fuck off their goddamn high horses and see it from the victims' perspective. What's the point of treating them "humanely" anyway? They gave up those rights the moment they decided to violate someone else's.

Our system kinda fails hard when it comes to sex offenders(On what a sex offender is, and what should be done with them.(kid streaking is not the same as someone that raped a little girl) ) and murderers.

I believe we should make weed legal(libertarian) and stop arresting ppl for it...

I believe cold blooded killers should be put to death. I don't buy this eye for and eye and we're both blind B.S. You either do away with the problem or its gonna happen again, as has been proven time after time after time.

Also with armed robbery, yeah sometimes its about intimidation, but sometimes they kill the clerk and others.

InB4LoveSpreadsHippieBULLSHIT.

Fiction wrote:Our system kinda fails hard when it comes to sex offenders(On what a sex offender is, and what should be done with them.(kid streaking is not the same as someone that raped a little girl) ) and murderers.

I believe we should make weed legal(libertarian) and stop arresting ppl for it...

I believe cold blooded killers should be put to death. I don't buy this eye for and eye and we're both blind B.S. You either do away with the problem or its gonna happen again, as has been proven time after time after time.

Also with armed robbery, yeah sometimes its about intimidation, but sometimes they kill the clerk and others.

InB4LoveSpreadsHippieBULLSHIT.

Yep. I find it amusing how many registered sex offenders with some pretty serious crimes live around my area (I'm not talking about guy having consensual sex with a 17 year old girl). There's people with records of forcible rape, intercourse with an 11-year-old, and a bunch of other stuff... it's sickening that these people are actually allowed to walk around the streets freely. They should not be able to enjoy the same rights that we do.

You do lose rights when you become a felon

Fiction wrote:You do lose rights when you become a felon

If they're allowed to walk freely without fear unlike their victims who are either traumatized for life or dead, then they haven't lost it.

I see nothing wrong with creating a concentration camp for these people. Work them to death then harvest their fucking organs. If they're non-compliant, torture them. If they continue with their non-compliance, then harvest their organs. Perfect fucking system.

Fiction wrote:Our system kinda fails hard when it comes to sex offenders(On what a sex offender is, and what should be done with them.(kid streaking is not the same as someone that raped a little girl) ) and murderers.
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They do.. My uncle almost got branded as one for Zipping his zipper up and NOT letting his shit hang out. Judge wasn't an idiot though and dismissed it immediately. Also, I know someone that is a registered sex offender for touching a girls boob while he was drunk in a bar.. she was 16 which is why he got it. And then when the serious offenders repeat they act like they had no clue.

Blackdragon6 wrote:

Fiction wrote:Our system kinda fails hard when it comes to sex offenders(On what a sex offender is, and what should be done with them.(kid streaking is not the same as someone that raped a little girl) ) and murderers.
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They do.. My uncle almost got branded as one for Zipping his zipper up and NOT letting his shit hang out. Judge wasn't an idiot though and dismissed it immediately. Also, I know someone that is a registered sex offender for touching a girls boob while he was drunk in a bar.. she was 16 which is why he got it. And then when the serious offenders repeat they act like they had no clue.

Technical judicial bullshit > common sense

sadly...

inky wrote:

Fiction wrote:You do lose rights when you become a felon

If they're allowed to walk freely without fear unlike their victims who are either traumatized for life or dead, then they haven't lost it.

I see nothing wrong with creating a concentration camp for these people. Work them to death then harvest their fucking organs. If they're non-compliant, torture them. If they continue with their non-compliance, then harvest their organs. Perfect fucking system.

I agree! Worst part is that tax payer money goes to them when it could be used for better things.

I'm not sure whether someone said this and I'm not exactly sure if this happens a lot but for rapists, there is a problem. It's hard for girls, when they are raped, to prove they were raped though unless there's evidence. It sucks that rapists/sex offenders walk freely.

Another thing is though, what if you get the wrong person. There have been documented cases where a women was raped, and then ID the WRONG man forcing him to waste years in prisons. That's the reason why we have innocent until proven guilty. People chose to give the innocent guy a fighting chance, the drawback is that this also gives the guilty a chance to be free as well...

Keep them in a maximum security prison for life, which is fine with me.

If a convicted murderer acts up, use torture/interrogation techniques on them such as:

-Giving the subject a dose of a potent extract of marijuana (to act as a "truth serum"), find out their fears/phobias, then take advantage of it. For Example, if a subject is arachnophobic, then lock them in a small box with tarantulas.

-A change in their environment (Ex: Having a subject wake up in a room at 29 deg Fahrenheit naked).

-Performing a pseudo-execution.

and the list goes on...

of course, i only used a convicted murderer as an example, but some people might think other brands of "violent criminals" deserve this same treatment.

Fiction wrote:Our system kinda fails hard when it comes to sex offenders(On what a sex offender is, and what should be done with them.(kid streaking is not the same as someone that raped a little girl) ) and murderers.

I believe we should make weed legal(libertarian) and stop arresting ppl for it...

I believe cold blooded killers should be put to death. I don't buy this eye for and eye and we're both blind B.S. You either do away with the problem or its gonna happen again, as has been proven time after time after time.

Also with armed robbery, yeah sometimes its about intimidation, but sometimes they kill the clerk and others.

InB4LoveSpreadsHippieBULLSHIT.

woohoo, THIS. 100%

I've always thought about this. We should just make them like gladiators and make them fight to the death.

I always thought torture for about 1month-1year depending on crime and then make them beg for death

inky wrote:

Blackdragon6 wrote:

Fiction wrote:Our system kinda fails hard when it comes to sex offenders(On what a sex offender is, and what should be done with them.(kid streaking is not the same as someone that raped a little girl) ) and murderers.
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They do.. My uncle almost got branded as one for Zipping his zipper up and NOT letting his shit hang out. Judge wasn't an idiot though and dismissed it immediately. Also, I know someone that is a registered sex offender for touching a girls boob while he was drunk in a bar.. she was 16 which is why he got it. And then when the serious offenders repeat they act like they had no clue.

Technical judicial bullshit > common sense

sadly...

Don't even get me started on Judicial bull fuck. That's the reason I never did my Jury duty. It's all based on technicalities and not Fact. Then there are the Lawyers that twist everything to get their client off just to get a quick buck and Judges are too stupid to see something right in front of them.
This song comes to mind when thinking about this

Fiction wrote:
InB4LoveSpreadsHippieBULLSHIT.

totally agree with this. utter garbage from the liberal side

Bring back public hangings and quarterings.

Then hold Payperviews and make them fight to the death. Woot

deathtoall wrote:Bring back public hangings and quarterings.

No way! Public execution, was Just a sick entertainment.. 100 years ago
Seriously. We don't need public executions... for ****'s sake.

IMO they lost their rights when they decided to take a life

Doron wrote:Oh god not again.

These threads about how criminals should be treated are just as common as religion threads..

soo.. popcorn anyone?

There's been a dozen religion threads in the last month alone (estimating, not going to take the time to count).

I can't remember the last time I've seen a topic on how felons should be treated though...

My opinion, I think execution is barbaric, but they need to do away with the penthouse that a prison can be. Free taxpayer paid surgeries? No. Exercise yards, socializing with other prisoners? No. Keep them in their damn cell, give them enough food to live on, and wait for them to die.

MrJoey wrote:My opinion, I think execution is barbaric, but they need to do away with the penthouse that a prison can be. Free taxpayer paid surgeries? No. Exercise yards, socializing with other prisoners? No. Keep them in their damn cell, give them enough food to live on, and wait for them to die.

The only way I would favor imprisonment is if we stopped using the term "correctional facility." It shouldn't be temporary imprisonment. No surgeries, limited amount of bland shitty food, and no socializing/outdoor activities. That and the cell should be limited to the size of a bathroom stall.

Then again, I find my idea to be more productive. Prison labor is not exactly a new concept anyway. All I'm suggesting is that we squeeze out more from these people by adjusting the conditions to that of German concentration camps. Who cares what we do with their bodies anyway? Their family members can complain all they want but at the end of the day, it's a criminal who should be treated as less-than-human. Besides, harvesting their organs or using their bodies as cadavers for research is the only way we could safely allow them to positively contribute to society.

It may seem a bit "barbaric" but you have to admit that it does sound reasonable.

-It's cost-efficient, which means we could spend more tax money on other important things to improve our quality of life and less on these lowlife criminals.

-It helps people in need - research facilities in need of cadavers and people waiting in the organ transplant list will rejoice.

-It's true justice for the victims and their family members; how horrible would you feel if the murderer of your wife was enjoying a nice walk after a fun game of basketball as punishment for his/her actions? With this system, you can ensure that they're going to live a horrible life.

Unfortunately, all of this is a bit harder to accept by most people who have a weak stomach. I find it sad and odd that they actually feel some form of sympathy for these criminals.

*I'm not really that excited about public executions since it's completely unnecessary. Unless, of course you have a small viewing area for the family members and only those who need to see it - much like the viewing room for lethal injections.

Or, I suppose you can "sell" the prisoners to bidders who are allowed to do whatever they please with the criminals as long as he/she does not leave the room alive. The money can then go to charities, research foundations, and college scholarships. If you wish to expand on that idea, you can also charge "viewers" (except for the family members / friends) if they want to watch the execution. Come to think of it, it seems like a very good way to execute criminals. You can then harvest the organs right after they're killed, or if too damaged - send it to a research lab.

Labor.

If you do not behave like a human, you do not deserve human rights.

http://www.articlesbase.com/criminal-ar ... 64070.html

Note the $3.3 billion spent on their health care in only 1 year.

Ganja wrote:I've always thought about this. We should just make them like gladiators and make them fight to the death.

this
if you someones right to live then you shouldnt be allowed any rights

Prison

Sounds like a great way to tyranny. Don't like someone + have political power? Get a trumped up charge and do whatever you want with them, good stuff.

SM-Count wrote:Sounds like a great way to tyranny. Don't like someone + have political power? Get a trumped up charge and do whatever you want with them, good stuff.

What's the differences? Sounds like today's politics... Even at the local level. I've gotten a ticket for not having my grass cut short enough.(all because I pissed someone off on the council)I've been rewarded a ticket for not having the back axle on my project car while it was in front of my garage.(yet it was tagged and insured.) If I had not paid those tickets I'm sure they would have been more than happy to have the sheriff come out. ... but yeah, that's just on the local level, it gets worse on state and federal. (IRS FTW!..)