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Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:48 am
by XemnasXD
i feel like i read about a patch microsoft released to counter a virus...its solution was you couldn't start up windows. From my understanding they fix'd it in a later patch but that was awhile ago so don't think it would affect you now =/
sorry i'm not much help
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:58 am
by satman83
no problem its ok, i think i may of found a solution, giving it go right now. If this
doesnt work will let you know 
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:19 am
by Castiel
Can you boot it up with safe mode?
If you can try start it up in safe and use system restore.
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:41 am
by satman83
deathgod11 wrote:Can you boot it up with safe mode?
If you can try start it up in safe and use system restore.
i cant, no safe mode or anything...its like the boot sequence is whats messed up 
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:50 am
by cbkilla
i think your best option is to ask friends/family if they have a disk that you can you, other wise idk what to do =s
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:05 am
by satman83
yea...going to need the vista disk.
I tried ringing microsoft....and the assholes told me they would charge me just to help
me and that even then they couldn't promise anything 
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:46 am
by satman83
Question: if i use system recovery to restore to original factory shipped condition
do i lose all my files and such? 
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:57 am
by BloodyBlade
You probably do. And is there still a warranty on the pc? If yes just bring it to the shop you've bought it. No stress for you
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:09 am
by satman83
3 years old on a 12 month warranty 
Ill just get an vista disk and reinstall vista, while trying to keep my files
and programs 
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:11 am
by dom
Get a Windows 7 disk. When you upgrade it will move all your old files to windows.old, archiving everything.
If you install Vista on top of Vista you will be forced to reformat, as far as I remember.
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:15 am
by satman83
thanks, ill get an windows 7 disk then 
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:01 pm
by Majorharper
satman83 wrote:thanks, ill get an windows 7 disk then
When you did the update did you have an external hdd conected to your computer? If so might wana try pluging it in, before starting up, or just try a few combinations...
Same exact thing happened with my laptop, same story, same problem, black screen after boot, dont wana go to log in screen e.t.c and i noticed my external HDD was pluged in, so i played around tried to start my pc with and without the hdd and i finally got it to work...
Hope that this will help.. otherwise good luck
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:54 pm
by satman83
dom wrote:Get a Windows 7 disk. When you upgrade it will move all your old files to windows.old, archiving everything.
If you install Vista on top of Vista you will be forced to reformat, as far as I remember.
Okay well it didnt work, got an error message about missing files when i tried to
install Windows 7 twice ¬_¬ 
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:59 pm
by dom
There's a fix for that. I don't remember what it is bt I had the same problem on my laptop.
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:03 pm
by satman83
dom wrote:There's a fix for that. I don't remember what it is bt I had the same problem on my laptop.
Hes also got a disk for the 64bit version (twas using 32bit), so ill give that a go
first.
How would i use a fix when i cant get past boot screen? , lol god i hate windows
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:05 pm
by cpinney
system restore, use it.
should be f8 or f10 or something of the sort to give you a list of boot up options, choose recovery console.
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:09 pm
by satman83
cpinney wrote:system restore, use it.
should be f8 or f10 or something of the sort to give you a list of boot up options, choose recovery console.
Tried that, doesnt work. It tells me that i have no previous system restore points
and the other options are useless as well.
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:22 pm
by satman83
satman83 wrote:dom wrote:There's a fix for that. I don't remember what it is bt I had the same problem on my laptop.
Hes also got a disk for the 64bit version (twas using 32bit), so ill give that a go
first.
How would i use a fix when i cant get past boot screen? , lol god i hate windows
Found the fix, seems a certain registry file has to be deleted for Windows 7 to
install
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:48 pm
by satman83
Well nothing i have tried has worked, i thought i found a fix around the windows 7
install problem, but wont work.
So unless someone has a sure fire way....am going to reset to factory settings
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:35 pm
by *BlackFox
Oh dear, that sucks... but that would definitely work! lulz
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:41 pm
by satman83
well i did it...current going through the windows set up
When its done ill get Windows 7 installed and deactivate windows updates
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:25 pm
by satman83
i cant find the box my network card came with, so i had to reopen my PC to get its
make so i could download the drivers on my laptop, then transfer to my PC...
As soon as net is back...task of reinstalling steam and all my games begins 
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:15 am
by satman83
Hey, okay PC getting back to normal...but how do i get steam to signin
automatically eveytime i start up?
i cant see this option any where ;p
Re: PC wont start up, windows update messed up
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:16 am
by Midori
satman83 wrote:Hey, okay PC getting back to normal...but how do i get steam to signin
automatically eveytime i start up?
i cant see this option any where ;p
its in the options
Re: PC wont start up, (getting software back. HELP!)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:02 pm
by satman83
god i hate it when you have to reinstall programs that are hard to come
by.
I had this good .flv file player but i cant find it for love or money, plus
several websites where i got my collection of old games from (old old dos
games) dont exist any more
Re: PC wont start up, (getting software back. HELP!)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:23 pm
by *BlackFox
satman83 wrote:god i hate it when you have to reinstall programs that are hard to come
by.
I had this good .flv file player but i cant find it for love or money, plus
several websites where i got my collection of old games from (old old dos
games) dont exist any more
Well, it's a smart idea to back up your data to disk..
in case something happens to your computer.. xD
Re: PC wont start up, (getting software back. HELP!)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:28 pm
by satman83
*BlackFox wrote:Well, it's a smart idea to back up your data to disk..
in case something happens to your computer.. xD
hindsight is a beautiful thing my friend
Re: PC wont start up, (getting software back. HELP!)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:31 pm
by cpinney
vlc player?
Re: PC wont start up, (getting software back. HELP!)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:48 pm
by satman83
nop....i cant remember what it was called ;p
lol.
I think this is a good opportunity to update/get new and better programs