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Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:38 am
by dom
Decided to post in OTP as it's tech news and not about specific game.
http://gizmodo.com/5593116/were-pc-game ... ng-projectI've heard from reliable sources that during the development they brought together the best console gamers to play mediocre PC gamers at the same game... and guess what happened? They pitted console gamers with their "console" controller, against PC gamers with their keyboard and mouse.
The console players got destroyed every time. So much so that it would be embarrassing to the XBOX team in general had Microsoft launched this initiative
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:46 am
by SM-Count
I'm glad his sources are reliable cause I was skeptical when I read it.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:46 am
by nohunta
I lied, it took some re-reading lol.
Pc Gamers ftw.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:46 am
by Azilius
I expected nothing less. Mouse point & click is much easier than controlling a joystick.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:01 am
by Shomari
I've played PC and console and found console is better.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:06 am
by Key-J
I'm actually not surprised, PC gaming is a lot more fluid, easy to control, and give you better and more accurate reaction.
I am sad thought that because of this the Project was effectively killed. I would love to have gamed Cross Platform. I hope that they can somehow correct the problem and give us a chance...
Correct it maybe by giving console gamers a Handicap? =D
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:07 am
by woutR
In shooters this is to be expected, in a lot of other games it isn't.
I still don't understand why they just won't launch Xbox/PS/any other console with a mouse and a keyboard. It would combine the best of both worlds. I would certainly buy it, and I think a ton of other PC gamers would love to just pay ~$300 every ~3 years instead of buying $1k computers every 3 years.
Is there any word out as to why you can't use keyboard + mouse on PS/Xbox? (Besides the keyboard+mouse advantage..)
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:08 am
by Fiction
Fit console gamers with the latest and greatest:
This should even the playing field.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:31 am
by Reise
This is actually really old news.
Back when UT3 came out it was supposed to have the ability to let people play against console players, but they never implemented it because of obvious differences in playing ability.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:35 am
by dom
Reise wrote:This is actually really old news.
Jul 21, 2010 06:28 PM
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:56 am
by Skyve
Unreal Tournament 3 (UT3) is a first-person shooter and online multiplayer video game by Epic Games, and is the latest installment of the Unreal series. It is published by Midway Games, and was released for Microsoft Windows on November 19, 2007, PlayStation 3 on December 11, 2007, and Xbox 360 on July 3, 2008
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:17 am
by MiKe 51-50
I've joined a few games on halo2 pc where random people were testing this. Basically teams of xbox controllers(has aim assist) vs mouse and keyboards(no aim assist)and both teams would switch controller devices every few games and mix up teams. Keyboard+mouse usually won(xbox controller team won a few times when bunch of nubs were on mouse and keyboards team). The common theme was that the mouse users could always turn around faster and overall respond to gun fights much much quicker.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:39 am
by TheDrop
i thought it was obvious that pc > console on fps games lol
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:20 am
by Sharp324
No PC gamer worth a shit would want anything to do with consolers. So with that said, have fun with CS, MW2 and BC2 players.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:29 am
by MiKe 51-50
Sharp324 wrote:No PC gamer worth a shit would want anything to do with consolers. So with that said, have fun with CS, MW2 and BC2 players.
it could have also been because how easily hackable pc games are. Even tho mw2 on xbox360 has tons of hacks/cheaters, it would be even worse if pc gamers were allowed in.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:34 am
by Toshiharu
I read this comment
Here's an idea - make the PC users use an Xbox 360 controller when playing against Xbox players. Problem solved.
wat
Anyhow as mentioned it was obvious that a keyboard and mouse would win it with a giant leap. If they were smart they'd still allow the cross platform, but with settings hurr durr. Same version(console/PC) or mixed. I'm wondering how Portal 2 is ganna work with this. That is if Gabe meant cross platform for the PS3 as the 'best console version'.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:09 am
by MiKe 51-50
Toshiharu wrote:I read this comment
Here's an idea - make the PC users use an Xbox 360 controller when playing against Xbox players. Problem solved.
wat
It's not that simple. I played Need for speed underground on ps2 vs pc players. The pc players were able to play the game much faster(probably like 120+ fps) while the console version felt like 30 fps. While in the process it helped the pc players because they were able to out race the console players. In a drag race, they would be getting 17-ish seconds while consolers could only push 19-ish seconds at the lowest. Ps2 player basically could not compete even when the exact same cars because how fast the pc hardware was compared to the ps2. This wasn't even a mouse vs controller issue.
This happens all the time on cod4 PC where ppl with 250fps(most competitive configs) easily dominate anybody running under 80-60 fps. It's just the game responds much much faster at higher fps's.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:33 am
by Jstar1
Azilius wrote:I expected nothing less. Mouse point & click is much easier than controlling a joystick.
^^^This
Why people think that using two joysticks to control up/down and left/right is better is beyond me. Especially the fanboys. Console gaming is really only better when it comes to hanging out with friends. You can't really have fun with friends when there is only one computer.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:39 am
by wootpops
Jstar1 wrote:Azilius wrote:I expected nothing less. Mouse point & click is much easier than controlling a joystick.
^^^This
Why people think that using two joysticks to control up/down and left/right is better is beyond me. Especially the fanboys. Console gaming is really only better when it comes to hanging out with friends. You can't really have fun with friends when there is only one computer.
lol fanboy's argument "Controller is just so much easier"
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:51 am
by Nick Invaders
imo controllers are easier to use, but mouses are much more accurate and precise. I suck with a mouse.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:35 am
by Drevixa
Haha, now I finally have some proof for my friends that PC fpsgamers are better than ps3's
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:52 am
by MrJoey
Not necessarily better, but their computers give them an advantage over consoles.
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:01 am
by BloodyBlade
Getting ps3 + plugging in keyboard and mouse = win!
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:10 am
by MrTwilliger
BloodyBlade wrote:Getting ps3 + plugging in keyboard and mouse = win!
How exactly is it win? You have a more limited, non-customisable console, playing the exact same role that a computer does and it's limited in both functionality and compatibility. If your going to do that simply to verse PC gamers, why not just build a PC? They aren't nearly as expensive to build as people think, not to mention the increased functionality that a PC provides. I play consoles because I want to relax on my bed with a controller and have a more relaxing experience. If I want to be serious and competitive, I play something on the computer where I am sitting upright and have more focus. Seems logical enough to me -shrugs-
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:18 am
by BloodyBlade
MrTwilliger wrote:BloodyBlade wrote:Getting ps3 + plugging in keyboard and mouse = win!
How exactly is it win? You have a more limited, non-customisable console, playing the exact same role that a computer does and it's limited in both functionality and compatibility. If your going to do that simply to verse PC gamers, why not just build a PC? They aren't nearly as expensive to build as people think, not to mention the increased functionality that a PC provides. I play consoles because I want to relax on my bed with a controller and have a more relaxing experience. If I want to be serious and competitive, I play something on the computer where I am sitting upright and have more focus. Seems logical enough to me -shrugs-
Because you will end up topping the board everytime.
Note; I do not have a PS3, but my friend has his keyboard and mouse linked to his Ps3.
First time I played there I was topping the board already :/ While on the pc I'm happy if I'm 4-5th
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:28 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
wootpops wrote:Jstar1 wrote:Azilius wrote:I expected nothing less. Mouse point & click is much easier than controlling a joystick.
^^^This
Why people think that using two joysticks to control up/down and left/right is better is beyond me. Especially the fanboys. Console gaming is really only better when it comes to hanging out with friends. You can't really have fun with friends when there is only one computer.
lol fanboy's argument "Controller is just so much easier"
lol fanboy's argument
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:54 am
by Crowley
Drevixa wrote:Haha, now I finally have some proof for my friends that PC fpsgamers are better than ps3's
This! I've spent so much time arguing with my friends which is better but goddamn they're stubborn, I don't see how you can play fps or any type of game for that matter on a console. I've tried it and I hated it.
PC
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:59 am
by Reise
dom wrote:Reise wrote:This is actually really old news.
Jul 21, 2010 06:28 PM
Check the release date for UT3.
Even then, the article mentions the decision was made "many months ago."
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:00 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
how about stop bashing each side and let each play the way they want, iv played cod4 on the xbox and pc i liked it on both was ok on both. controler just has everything in 1 format with each asscess buttons pc you get a lot more options but you get more accuracy and control ingame
Re: Microsoft kills PC - Xbox cross-platform online gaming
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:33 pm
by Snazzi
[SD]Master_Wong wrote:how about stop bashing each side and let each play the way they want, iv played cod4 on the xbox and pc i liked it on both was ok on both. controler just has everything in 1 format with each asscess buttons pc you get a lot more options but you get more accuracy and control ingame
I +1 this. I hae played MW2 on both Xbox and PC, and I didn't mind playing on PC. PC is a lot more 'free-range' movement with your hands I guess lol - With the mouse, and you can customise the buttons to suit how you like it.
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