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Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:48 pm
by woutR
So after ~8 years of Balkenende failure today is the day we'll find out what the next 4 years have in store for us.
Top contenders: PvdA (labor party, left) and VVD (liberal, right)
Economic crisis hit us hard, all of the parties are proposing extreme cutbacks, so I voted for the one that wasn't going to cut back on my studies and wasn't going to take away my free scholarship. Definitely not the party I would consider voting for normally, but you have to do what you have to do.
In the end I had to choose between the noobs who failed for the last 8 years and a bunch of commie hippies. I wouldn't forgive myself if I ended up making the Netherlands into a new communist state with PvdA, GroenLinks and SP (they're proposing a new 60% tax rate), so I had to go with the goddamn failures of CDA.
Goddamn economic crisis is even ruining my first ever vote

Let's just pray for the best of both worlds where my scholarship is safe, but where VVD cuts back on all this ridiculous stuff we have in the Netherlands.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:03 pm
by bryanvan
You should've voted PVV like I did... They just want the best
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:05 pm
by Gladiator_RN
Cant believe Holland became a racist country.
PVV sucks.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:32 pm
by woutR
bryanvan wrote:You should've voted PVV like I did... They just want the best
The best for who? If you don't look at their Islam positions their program is completely worthless and unrealistic. You really have to look at the big picture, because their Islam propositions are just not going to happen. Remove Islam from the picture and the party is as worthless as Trots op Nederland.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:44 pm
by xzaz
Gladiator_RN wrote:Cant believe Holland became a racist country.
PVV sucks.
Racist? Whats so racists about it? I didn't vote PVV, i voted SGP

Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:06 pm
by Jantje
VVD voter here.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:10 pm
by Gladiator_RN
xzaz wrote:Gladiator_RN wrote:Cant believe Holland became a racist country.
PVV sucks.
Racist? Whats so racists about it? I didn't vote PVV, i voted SGP

I think its pretty racist if you want to ban every islams from a country lol/
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:17 pm
by XMoshe
VVD here, that 'stemwijzer' gave me PvdA but my dad told me more about the programs and VVD wants to fix the debt we got now instead of pushing it forward till the next generation, which means we'd have about double it (600billion atm) when we're like 40.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:30 pm
by poehalcho
I'm underage, but my school ahd student votes

I voted piratenpartij naturally. 5 years copyright ftw.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:32 pm
by bot_antist
Gladiator_RN wrote:xzaz wrote:Gladiator_RN wrote:Cant believe Holland became a racist country.
PVV sucks.
Racist? Whats so racists about it? I didn't vote PVV, i voted SGP

I think its pretty racist if you want to ban every islams from a country lol/
race = religion?

Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:46 pm
by heroo
SP, don't **** with the studiefinanciering.
As for the PVV, i don't understand why people vote for them. They won't get in a coalition unless they radically change their programme, which they (if i may believe mister Wilders) won't. So a vote for the PVV is a useless vote and we saw that before with the regional elections (gemeenteraadsverkiezingen in Den Haag en Almere).
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:56 pm
by TheDrop
not dutch here but...
60% tax rates

Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:14 pm
by xzaz
UnbeatableDevil wrote:not dutch here but...
60% tax rates

And let see what we get in return
1) Olmost free education
2) Good health care
3) Social support for poor people
4) Social support for people with a disability
5) should i keep going?
Gladiator_RN wrote:xzaz wrote:Gladiator_RN wrote:Cant believe Holland became a racist country.
PVV sucks.
Racist? Whats so racists about it? I didn't vote PVV, i voted SGP

I think its pretty racist if you want to ban every islams from a country lol/
Indeed

And he never says he is against the people who have that religion... you can have everything you want. But if you fck it up you will get put out of the country.. fair right? Or should we Hug them like PvdA does? Some Thee?
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:17 pm
by woutR
heroo wrote:SP, don't **** with the studiefinanciering.
As for the PVV, i don't understand why people vote for them. They won't get in a coalition unless they radically change their programme, which they (if i may believe mister Wilders) won't. So a vote for the PVV is a useless vote and we saw that before with the regional elections (gemeenteraadsverkiezingen in Den Haag en Almere).
Well if your wish of making "a lot and a lot of money" is coming true, then you might want to consider voting for someone else next time

PvdA and VVD going neck to neck atm
If they're going 'Paars' we're pretty much fu
cked for our studiefinanciering. D66, PvdA and VVD are all for changing it.
edit: 60% tax rate is only a proposition. Current rate is somewhere in the low 50's, like 52% for the highest incomes.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:20 pm
by xzaz
@woutR Rates are going up.. but that is bad for the economic growth... there will be alot of poldering so i think it will go up at 55 - 57%. I hope it will get PVV VVD en CDA (and maby SGP). Studiefinanciering moeten ze gewoon met hun poten van afblijven, heb geen zin om met een schuld te zitten aan het einde van mijn studie.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:22 pm
by TheDrop
xzaz wrote:UnbeatableDevil wrote:not dutch here but...
60% tax rates

And let see what we get in return
1) Olmost free education
2) Good health care
3) Social support for poor people
4) Social support for people with a disability
5) should i keep going?
yeah i have heard Europe is a lil more socialist than the US but losing more than half of your money to taxes must hurt :\. I think the standard tax rate here is around 33% and imo thats quite high.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:11 am
by woutR
xzaz, can I ask why you're voting for SGP? Are you from within the 'bible belt'?
I've actually never met someone who voted SGP

Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:19 am
by Gnarly
PvdA voter here.
This is just too exciting to watch.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:24 am
by woutR
RoqueWelle wrote:PvdA voter here.
This is just too exciting to watch.
Which is why I'm not watching
No seriously, NOS is failing pretty hard. The technological gadgets are pissing me off, like how they tap the screen all the time and new statistics fly on and off the screen.. just keep it simple. NOS is a complete sell out to RTL, the summer where they introduced 'funny' segments in the news made me want to kill myself. 8 o'clock
national news broadcast and it's concluded with an elephant who can paint?
I don't like NOS anymore.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:48 am
by VeniVidiVici
Current results:
VVD: 31
PvdA: 30
PVV: 24
CDA: 21
GL: 10
D66: 10
others are 2.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:01 am
by asusi
VeniVidiVici wrote:Current results:
VVD: 31
PvdA: 31
PVV: 24
CDA: 21
GL: 10
D66: 10
others are 2.
fixed,

BTW, i think PVV is most pathetic party that exist right now, i still find it funny that Wilders thinks that he Jewish
But there is one little thing that i agree with PVV that is;
No money for Greece!! Cause we gave money to Iceland, they fu*ked us, they don't wanna give the money back now.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:16 am
by Zyphir
Every political party promises so much, but in the end almost nothing changes.
Gotta go vote in Belgium on Sunday, it'll be an easy vote for me.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:42 am
by tuinman159
Corevalue wrote:Every political party promises so much, but in the end almost nothing changes.
Gotta go vote in Belgium on Sunday, it'll be an easy vote for me.
If you don't know whose going to win in Belgium by now, you've been living in a cave
1 party has a solution for the Belgian problems, and it aren't the noobs that messed it up last time
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:07 am
by heroo
woutR wrote:heroo wrote:SP, don't **** with the studiefinanciering.
As for the PVV, i don't understand why people vote for them. They won't get in a coalition unless they radically change their programme, which they (if i may believe mister Wilders) won't. So a vote for the PVV is a useless vote and we saw that before with the regional elections (gemeenteraadsverkiezingen in Den Haag en Almere).
Well if your wish of making "a lot and a lot of money" is coming true, then you might want to consider voting for someone else next time

PvdA and VVD going neck to neck atm
If they're going 'Paars' we're pretty much fu
cked for our studiefinanciering. D66, PvdA and VVD are all for changing it.
edit: 60% tax rate is only a proposition. Current rate is somewhere in the low 50's, like 52% for the highest incomes.
I know SP isn't the right party for me if I would like to make lots of money, but I don't mind paying taxes, i'm quite a socialist

As for the studiefinanciering, I think you're right:we're gonna get f*cked. It's not fair, we just finished our VWO and now we won't get any studiefinanciering

Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:12 am
by Zyphir
tuinman159 wrote:Corevalue wrote:Every political party promises so much, but in the end almost nothing changes.
Gotta go vote in Belgium on Sunday, it'll be an easy vote for me.
If you don't know whose going to win in Belgium by now, you've been living in a cave
1 party has a solution for the Belgian problems, and it aren't the noobs that messed it up last time
N-VA will win and I'll be voting for them. I've voted for them in the previous elections when they were still small, now they'll be the biggst party. At least people have started to realise what the best choice is.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:13 am
by Snazzi
Am not Dutch!
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:58 am
by VeniVidiVici
asusi wrote:VeniVidiVici wrote:Current results:
VVD: 31
PvdA: 30
PVV: 24
CDA: 21
GL: 10
D66: 10
others are 2.
fixed,

BTW, i think PVV is most pathetic party that exist right now, i still find it funny that Wilders thinks that he Jewish
But there is one little thing that i agree with PVV that is;
No money for Greece!! Cause we gave money to Iceland, they fu*ked us, they don't wanna give the money back now.
fixed again
http://nos.nl/dossier/141463-nederland- ... b/46/live/
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:26 pm
by [SD]Twysta
VVD.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:08 pm
by Gnarly
Hate to see the Netherlands going right.
Re: Dutch Elections!
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:40 pm
by Krevidy
I voted for the VVD.