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Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:52 pm
by Squirt
In less than 18 months there will be no more big blocks of net addresses to give out, estimates suggest.
Predictions name 9 September 2011 as the date on which the last of those tranches is released for net firms and others to use.
Everything connected to the net needs an "IP address" to ensure data reaches the right person or device.
Experts say that the net's entire existing address space will be exhausted about a year after that date.
A newer scheme is being rolled out but many firms and countries are being slow to switch, experts warn.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10105978.stm
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:55 pm
by nohunta
Wat?
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:02 pm
by cpinney
nohunta wrote:Wat?
basically if you can't get an address you can't be on the internet, and if there are more people than addresses then some people won't be able to get on.
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:10 pm
by Reise
IPv6 will take care of that.
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:45 pm
by Doppleganger
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:48 pm
by Miguez
What I still don't get it
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:37 pm
by Blindfire
They are running out of number combinations for IP adresses.
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:41 am
by CeLL
its like they run out of houses on the internet. so some will be homeless.
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:51 am
by wootpops
add another .xx ?
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 1:10 am
by heroo
Reise wrote:IPv6 will take care of that.
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:07 am
by Evil_Venom
Hmm if your IP is XX.XXX.XXX.XXX then thats 11 numbers. Since your IP can't start with a zero, at least I think, that leaves 10 X's with 10 different possibilities and 1 X with 9 possibilities. If I am correct this means there are 90,000,000,000 different possible IP address'.
If that is the case I don't know how we could run out of IP's. My guess is that IP's are created a much different way then just random numbers. Something more regional I suppose. But even this way there would be even more available because say the last 3 digits of your IP were your location code then that would create more due to the ability to repeat the first 8 digits.
I don't know if any of that is relevant I would have to do more research but it just seems to me that it would be rather hard to run out of IP address'.
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:27 am
by TOloseGT
yea, i read somewhere like months ago that the ip address type we use now will run out of available numbers, but that they will use a newer ip address type with more numbers..
...or something
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:08 am
by Mirosuke
oh kk
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:19 am
by Deadsolid
No biggie.
What's more concerning is Moore's Law.
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:27 am
by MrTwilliger
IPV4, the current IP protocol standard, uses a 32 bit number for IP addresses. This means there's a theoretical 2^32 IP addresses available, or 4,294,967,296 IP addresses. Impressive, no? But with a population well over 6 billion it will, eventually, run out.
IPV6, the newest addition to the IP protocol standard, uses a 128 bit number for IP addresses. This gives us a theoretical 2^128 IP addresses, which is... *clear throat* 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 IP addresses. Like stated above, IPV6 will more than fix the problem. For now anyway
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:33 am
by evilpeta
MrTwilliger wrote:IPV4, the current IP protocol standard, uses a 32 bit number for IP addresses. This means there's a theoretical 2^32 IP addresses available, or 4,294,967,296 IP addresses. Impressive, no? But with a population well over 6 billion it will, eventually, run out.
IPV6, the newest addition to the IP protocol standard, uses a 1
28 bit number for IP addresses. This gives us a theoretical 2^128 IP addresses, which is... *clear throat* 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 IP addresses. Like stated above, IPV6 will more than fix the problem. For now anyway
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:35 am
by MrTwilliger
Ahh I missed the 2, typos suck >_> Thanks for picking it up. for me. Edited.
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:00 am
by [SD]Twysta
Evil_Venom wrote:Hmm if your IP is XX.XXX.XXX.XXX then thats 11 numbers. Since your IP can't start with a zero, at least I think, that leaves 10 X's with 10 different possibilities and 1 X with 9 possibilities. If I am correct this means there are 90,000,000,000 different possible IP address'.
If that is the case I don't know how we could run out of IP's. My guess is that IP's are created a much different way then just random numbers. Something more regional I suppose. But even this way there would be even more available because say the last 3 digits of your IP were your location code then that would create more due to the ability to repeat the first 8 digits.
I don't know if any of that is relevant I would have to do more research but it just seems to me that it would be rather hard to run out of IP address'.
Nah, it's not
Because there are "ranges" with IP adresses. And not every combination is possible (in fact, very limited).
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:42 am
by EvGa
Deadsolid wrote:No biggie.
What's more concerning is Moore's Law.
It's too bad we can't sustain it forever.. but this is interesting:
I hope I live to be 90+.
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:09 am
by Snazzi
No more bots ftw ?
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:15 am
by Deadsolid
EvGa wrote:Deadsolid wrote:No biggie.
What's more concerning is Moore's Law.
It's too bad we can't sustain it forever.. but this is interesting:
I hope I live to be 90+.
I believe that graph is outdated. The current estimate is at 2025 for a processor that can mimic the human brain. I could be mixing that up with the estimate of when Moore's law is supposed to be fulfilled.
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:16 pm
by curvekiller
Reise wrote:IPv6 will take care of that.
Exactly. Vista and 7 already support it, just the providers need to switch.
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:43 pm
by Xawkes
curvekiller wrote:Reise wrote:IPv6 will take care of that.
Exactly. Vista and 7 already support it, just the providers need to switch.
Toasters and stuff like that will have IP too
Re: Holy cow cocks batman
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:55 pm
by MrTwilliger
The automated-network Toaster. A entire loaf is bread is pre-loaded into a sealed off air tight storage container. With a simple crtl+alt+T command 2 pieces (or 4, if specified) of the toast are automtically placed upon the grill of the toaster, a timing amount is apsecified and the toast begins to cook.
Sounds like a million dollar idea to me
