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is this really how people think of islam ??

"is this really how people think of islam ??"
Beter: Does the Islamic community proof otherwise?

xzaz wrote:"is this really how people think of islam ??"
Beter: Does the Islamic community proof otherwise?

this movie is enough to answer your question
it's made to proof otherwise

Let me answer your question with a couple of my own. What did (non christian) people think of christianity during the time of the inquisition? What do people think now of catholocism with the excess of pedophelia? And finally what would be the common response (not a more mature response from someone like ofy) from a muslim if I said your god isnt real or your religion is wrong? Society tends to take things at face value. Islam doesn’t need to change its beliefs, but if they don’t want to be viewed as society tends to view them, there has to be a house cleaning from the inside first. The genuine peace loving muslims need to take a stand against the radical heretics. Then and only then will society as a whole have respect for islam. Cause guess what, when we try to stand against them, we tend to receive more opposition than genuine cooperation.

CeLL wrote:Let me answer your question with a couple of my own. What did (non christian) people think of christianity during the time of the inquisition? What do people think now of catholocism with the excess of pedophelia? And finally what would be the common response (not a more mature response from someone like ofy) from a muslim if I said your god isnt real or your religion is wrong? Society tends to take things at face value. Islam doesn’t need to change its beliefs, but if they don’t want to be viewed as society tends to view them, there has to be a house cleaning from the inside first. The genuine peace loving muslims need to take a stand against the radical heretics. Then and only then will society as a whole have respect for islam. Cause guess what, when we try to stand against them, we tend to receive more opposition than genuine cooperation.

You see, you're just being an hypocrite + egoist. You say "they" well buddy i am Muslim and i don't have problems with people no religion or other religion then mine, i had so many conversations about that with people about this religion issue. Don't get Religion mixed with the people, cause every men uses hes religion hes own way. I feel neutral about religion.
p.s: But can you proof that there is no god? Can you?

Religion time!

Looks like a decent movie. And that's all I have to say about this.

asusi wrote:But can you proof that there is no god? Can you?

can you prove there is a god?

so wait the movie already came out?

asusi wrote:

CeLL wrote:Let me answer your question with a couple of my own. What did (non christian) people think of christianity during the time of the inquisition? What do people think now of catholocism with the excess of pedophelia? And finally what would be the common response (not a more mature response from someone like ofy) from a muslim if I said your god isnt real or your religion is wrong? Society tends to take things at face value. Islam doesn’t need to change its beliefs, but if they don’t want to be viewed as society tends to view them, there has to be a house cleaning from the inside first. The genuine peace loving muslims need to take a stand against the radical heretics. Then and only then will society as a whole have respect for islam. Cause guess what, when we try to stand against them, we tend to receive more opposition than genuine cooperation.

You see, you're just being an hypocrite + egoist. You say "they" well buddy i am Muslim and i don't have problems with people no religion or other religion then mine, i had so many conversations about that with people about this religion issue. Don't get Religion mixed with the people, cause every men uses hes religion hes own way. I feel neutral about religion.
p.s: But can you proof that there is no god? Can you?

see im not even actually arguing the existance of a god, and look what you did.

also, your entire response proves my point. its very clear that you didnt actually READ what i WROTE you simply skimmed it and judged it to be anti-YOU. good luck with that public image.

antics wrote:

asusi wrote:But can you proof that there is no god? Can you?

can you prove there is a god?

so wait the movie already came out?

to be clear: The scientist have examined this subject over 30 years and, could not prove that there is NO God, they got only "theory" and no hard evidence.
I can prove, cause i believe in God, think again.

CeLL wrote:see im not even actually arguing the existance of a god, and look what you did.

also, your entire response proves my point. its very clear that you didnt actually READ what i WROTE you simply skimmed it and judged it to be anti-YOU. good luck with that public image.

Nice trollin' cell

im not trolling you fucking retard. im making a genuine point. I WASNT ARGUING AGAINST THE EXISTANCE OF GOD. I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT SCIENTISTS THEORIES. I AM TRYING TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE THINK, AND HOW TO FUCKING FIX IT.
im not yelling, i just want to make sure you can see what im typing.

CeLL wrote:im not trolling you fucking retard. im making a genuine point. I WASNT ARGUING AGAINST THE EXISTANCE OF GOD. I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT SCIENTISTS THEORIES. I AM TRYING TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE THINK, AND HOW TO FUCKING FIX IT.
im not yelling, i just want to make sure you can see what im typing.

You know what is funny, you think ur pretty smart arent ya? I mean what do you want to fix? Fix Islam? i c you don't or can't separate Religion from nation (the way it works in that country). So don't even try to improve or fix something cause it's not about religion, it's about the people who use it for their purposes.

ofy1993 wrote:

antics wrote:
can you prove there is a god?

İki parmağının ucunu gözüne koy. Bir şey görebiliyor musun dünyadan? Sen göremiyorsun diye bu alem yok değildir. - Mowlānā Jalāl ad-Dīn Muḥammad Balkhī

Translation:

"Put your two fingers to the tip of your eyes. Do you see anything from the world? Just because you can not see it, does not make the universe not there."

I'm not saying your lack of visual contact with him prooves his existence, but you clearly can't deny his existence just cause you "can't see him".

At asusi: lol.

BackOnT: I'll def. see the movie. Hopefully the life of a true Muslim is portrayed well in it.

Then go have sex with an crazy crack wh0re, cause you can't see Aids so there is no aids... right??? :')

asusi wrote:

CeLL wrote:im not trolling you fucking retard. im making a genuine point. I WASNT ARGUING AGAINST THE EXISTANCE OF GOD. I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT SCIENTISTS THEORIES. I AM TRYING TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE THINK, AND HOW TO FUCKING FIX IT.
im not yelling, i just want to make sure you can see what im typing.

Spoiler!

Why so serious?

You know what is funny, you think ur pretty smart arent ya? I mean what do you want to fix? Fix Islam? i c you don't or can't separate Religion from nation (the way it works in that country). So don't even try to improve or fix something cause it's not about religion, it's about the people who use it for their purposes.

im not serious, i have just realized you may not be able to see such small print. so i decided to help you out a bit.

you are continuing to dig yourself deeper. you are completely missing my point. i dont want to give you credit and assume you are trolling me, because if you are you are doing so at the expense of your entire belief system. if you dont mind allowing murderers, liars, and fear mongers to be the face of you, your religion, and your god, than so be it, you certainly dont need to change or improve anything.

Cell, don't waste your time with asusi, he obviously has no idea how to read, or is just to retarded to get what you meant with your first post, I got it and it does make sense.

CeLL, I think you should use shorter sentences and simple words. asusi seems to have trouble understanding.

ofy1993 wrote:

CeLL wrote:[ and apperantly pulling ofy in with you.

ofy1993 wrote: lol. Chill. Cell's making a point.

asusi wrote:Then go have sex with an crazy crack wh0re, cause you can't see Aids so there is no aids... right??? :')

Sovereign wrote:asusi, he obviously has no idea how to read, or is just to retarded to get what you meant

sorry dood. my bad. i didnt see that.

previous post fixed.

ofy1993 wrote:

CeLL wrote:[ and apperantly pulling ofy in with you.

ofy1993 wrote: lol. Chill. Cell's making a point.

asusi wrote:Then go have sex with an crazy crack wh0re, cause you can't see Aids so there is no aids... right??? :')

Sovereign wrote:asusi, he obviously has no idea how to read, or is just to retarded to get what you meant

I don't know who has to calm down, he is insulting me and flaming and trolling, but it's okay.

asusi wrote:

ofy1993 wrote:

CeLL wrote:[ and apperantly pulling ofy in with you.

ofy1993 wrote: lol. Chill. Cell's making a point.

asusi wrote:Then go have sex with an crazy crack wh0re, cause you can't see Aids so there is no aids... right??? :')

Sovereign wrote:asusi, he obviously has no idea how to read, or is just to retarded to get what you meant

Exaclty, I don't know who has to calm down, he is insulting me and flaming and trolling, but it's okay.

im not trolling. i only insulted you to the extent that you desrved, and im certainly not flaming.

Shadow wrote:CeLL, I think you should use shorter sentences and simple words. asusi seems to have trouble understanding.

All sarcasm aside, this is entirely possible. I never thought about the possibility of a problem with communication. I do need to realise not everyones first language is english.

CeLL wrote:i didnt see that.

Me neither because he edited his post after we read it.

CeLL wrote:All sarcasm aside, this is entirely possible. I never thought about the possibility of a problem with communication. I do need to realise not everyones first language is english.

Insulting somebody while trying to show your point of view says enough about you.

Shadow wrote:

CeLL wrote:i didnt see that.

Me neither because he edited his post after we read it.

my english is very bad i know it

Shadow wrote:

CeLL wrote:i didnt see that.

Me neither because he edited his post after we read it.

got it.

i also didnt realise that someone else was pushing the "prove god" concept after asusi and i had words about it. so i totally thought that ofy was just pushing the issue that asusi and i had discussed even further.



And as far as proof of a god. That is something that is inside each and everyone of us to find. If you don’t, or you choose to ignore it that is the prerogative you take. Neither I can push my prerogative onto you, nor will you push your prerogative on me. Only a weak minded person would be pushed against their own prerogative.

asusi wrote:

Shadow wrote:

CeLL wrote:i didnt see that.

Me neither because he edited his post after we read it.

my english is very bad i know it

I fail to see the logical connection between the quote and your reply, considering that my reply had nothing to do with you.

teh fck
srsly asusi?

satman83 wrote:over rated movie that has its moments but fails to live up to the hype

Couldn't agree more.

Yay religion talk.

All I have to say is: when a white person kills another person it's "omg"
When a muslim kills another person its "OMFG TERRORIST"

People who think that all muslims are terrorists, are retarted. Luckily I haven't met alot of those people.

If people only knew the true meaning of the Islam, it would've saved us so much shit

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Im nota t-t-t-terror ist. lol
THIS IS FLAMING DRAGON! Simple Khan belong to us now!

Lol derp derp

There my post has much more meaning than some in here, by a certain member

Doppleganger wrote:Im nota t-t-t-terror ist. lol
THIS IS FLAMING DRAGON! Simple Khan belong to us now!

My chair, I fell out of it laughing.