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Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:55 pm**

Freaky Physics Proves Parallel Universes Exist

Look past the details of a wonky discovery by a group of California scientists -- that a quantum state is now observable with the human eye -- and consider its implications: Time travel may be feasible. Doc Brown would be proud.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/ ... test=faces

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:06 pm**

Fox news.....

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:10 pm**

poehalcho wrote:Fox news.....

...NS thread.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:13 pm**

Michio Kaku?

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:22 pm**

Great Scott

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:33 pm**

What the fuck

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:34 pm**

poehalcho wrote:Fox news.....

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:56 pm**

Irish Pub?

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:02 pm**

poehalcho wrote:Fox news.....

my first thought lol

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:04 pm**

Can anybody tell me what the fouck is going on?

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:07 pm**

NO WAY!

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:09 pm**

Regardless of the source of the article, quantum mechanics and parallel universes are a very real topic. Basically what the article was showing was that even though we already knew something could exist in multiple states simultaneously, we now have found an observable model.

They kind of stretched it though with some of the time travel stuff, at the moment not even a hypothesis for how this might be possible exists, just guesses.

I thought this was a pretty cool article though, right now I'm working on a project for my AP physics class on the different quirks of quantum theory because it really does do some cool stuff.

Schrödinger's Cat is an experiment to show that something can exist in multiple states until it is observed

Another common experiment based around this theory is Dual Slit Diffraction which does the same thing but with light or proton waves instead of an object.

This is all The Copenhagen Interpretation for anyone that is interested

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:12 pm**

Lets get some ways to travel to the other universes, I wanna be The One.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:32 pm**

Seriously, how can something move and be still at the same time?

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:37 pm**

*BlackFox wrote:Seriously, how can something move and be still at the same time?

that's the speciality of the quantum mechanic
Don't questioned it, it's from Einstein

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:46 pm**

NuclearSilo wrote:Don't questioned it, it's from Einstein

Well, even Einstein, himself, can make mistakes on quantum mechanics... xD

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:59 am**

My Uncle Martin says E does not equal MC2 (MC squared)

Cookie for anyone that gets the reference.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:17 am**

MrJoey wrote:My Uncle Martin says E does not equal MC2 (MC squared)

Cookie for anyone that gets the reference.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:19 am**

The moment I saw fox news I laughed my ass off so badly, thanks for the laugh dude.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:31 am**

I'm surprised FOX reported on this, being extremely right leaning and all.. I thought they were against science.

Regardless, parallel universes is a legitimate theory, but unfortunately FOX does a good job of making this seem fantastical.. we may never be able to prove that parallel universes exist. By definition, they are separate from ours.. no way of interaction as far as we know, despite what this article says.

/ramble:

The key thing here is to see if this scales to larger objects, intuitively you would think it does, but does it? The 'observer' in QM is so crazy.. how do you define an observer? A human? An instrument? Do other things "observe" particles? Does the interaction of sub atomic particles with other subatomic particles cause them to be 'observed'? What causes the act of observation? Photons hitting the object and then entering your eye? A particle colliding with a detector strip? (double slit experiment, check out what Xyzzzy posted). Do some reading on QM.. it's mind blowing.

I'm currently reading Quantum Enigma.. it talks about the weird things we run into with QM. Like, if observation causes the wave function of a particle to collapse... are we creating our reality? (I don't think so, but it's an interesting concept.)

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:02 am**

EvGa wrote:
MrJoey wrote:My Uncle Martin says E does not equal MC2 (MC squared)

Cookie for anyone that gets the reference.

Well shit, that makes me wonder if the movie I saw, is just a remake of the one from your image.

Cause I never seen that one before.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:29 pm**

EvGa wrote:I'm currently reading Quantum Enigma.. it talks about the weird things we run into with QM. Like, if observation causes the wave function of a particle to collapse... are we creating our reality? (I don't think so, but it's an interesting concept.)

Is that book a good read or is it written by some stuffy scientist?

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:44 pm**

Xyzzzy wrote:
EvGa wrote:I'm currently reading Quantum Enigma.. it talks about the weird things we run into with QM. Like, if observation causes the wave function of a particle to collapse... are we creating our reality? (I don't think so, but it's an interesting concept.)

Is that book a good read or is it written by some stuffy scientist?

I'm about 1/3 through, it's pretty good. It has mostly been an introduction to the basic principles and ideas that lead to quantum physics. Newton, Einstein, etc. It touches on several topics briefly, determinism vs. free-will, physical reality, etc. Then an introduction to some of the strange things of QM which lead to the 'enigma'. It basically presents the ideas and asks a lot of questions to get you thinking about the implications of QM. So far it has been pretty basic, but I'm only 1/3 through.

The book is "Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters Consciousness."

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:55 pm**

EvGa wrote:
Xyzzzy wrote:
EvGa wrote:I'm currently reading Quantum Enigma.. it talks about the weird things we run into with QM. Like, if observation causes the wave function of a particle to collapse... are we creating our reality? (I don't think so, but it's an interesting concept.)

Is that book a good read or is it written by some stuffy scientist?

I'm about 1/3 through, it's pretty good. It has mostly been an introduction to the basic principles and ideas that lead to quantum physics. Newton, Einstein, etc. It touches on several topics briefly, determinism vs. free-will, physical reality, etc. Then an introduction to some of the strange things of QM which lead to the 'enigma'. It basically presents the ideas and asks a lot of questions to get you thinking about the implications of QM. So far it has been pretty basic, but I'm only 1/3 through.

The book is "Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters Consciousness."

hmm, I'll check it out
thanks

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:20 pm**

EvGa wrote:I'm surprised FOX reported on this, being extremely right leaning and all.. I thought they were against science.

It's a trap!

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:55 am**

Michio Kaku has more credentials than Fox News will ever have so this obviously isn't crap...which most of you would have found out if you weren't being idiotic about not wanting to seem idiotic. :palm:

This theory has been out and about for a while now and I'm surprised that people are just finding this out. Parallel universes could very well explain how and why the big bang happened and how this could effect events happening throughout our universe. For instance the big bang could just be the result of two separate universes making brief contact with each other therefore causing a massive burst of energy to rapidly be unleashed from that contact in the form of heat. But one thing is clear in my mind: this is cataclysmic on a universal scale science that we are dealing with.

@Xizzzy actually I think Michio Kaku has a hypothesis on time travel and is already conducting experiments on the matter. I'll dig something up later if you want.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:12 am**

Look into the multi world interpretation if you really want your mind blown. It kind of relates to the Fox article.

Excerpt from wiki:

In many-worlds, the subjective appearance of wavefunction collapse is explained by the mechanism of quantum decoherence. By decoherence, many-worlds claims to resolve all of the correlation paradoxes of quantum theory, such as the EPR paradox[7][8] and Schrödinger's cat,[1] since every possible outcome of every event defines or exists in its own "history" or "world". In layman's terms, there is a very large—perhaps infinite[9]—number of universes, and everything that could possibly have happened in our past, but didn't, has occurred in the past of some other universe or universes.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:16 am**

^This is why I'm a biology major. Physics and chemistry just gets too technical.

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