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The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:20 am
by /Pi
Remember those photos that compare different sizes of planets, stars, etc? Well here's an awesome interactive one that also goes both ways, from the size of hypothetical strings to the scale of the observable universe! *nerdgasm*
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/525347And before I forget, if you have the urge to degrade this topic to another one of those science-religion circuses, you're in luck cuz we currently have
an active one! Spare us our brain cells and dump them there instead. Huzzah!
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:58 am
by XemnasXD
extremely cool guy
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:55 am
by Amro
lol thats awesome
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:16 pm
by Smi!ezZ
neat-o!
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:25 pm
by evilpeta
i liek this, i liek cheezburgr
is nise!
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:40 pm
by Deadsolid
dude, cool
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:51 pm
by NuclearSilo
hey i got 2 questions:
- did they really observe the strings at the size 10e-35 or it's just a supposition it's located at that size?
- what's the technique to get the size of the observable universe?
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:48 pm
by TheDrop
meh
me =
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:59 pm
by Zyphir
Looks cool, it's quite weird if you think about how small and how big things can be :o
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:03 pm
by vietxboy911
Corevalue wrote:Looks cool, it's quite weird if you think about how small and how big things can be :o
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:06 pm
by poehalcho
NuclearSilo wrote:hey i got 2 questions:
- did they really observe the strings at the size 10e-35 or it's just a supposition it's located at that size? supposition through logic
- what's the technique to get the size of the observable universe? logic
OT:
awesomenessezes, me like
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:24 pm
by Draquish
vietxboy911 wrote:Corevalue wrote:Looks cool, it's quite weird if you think about how small and how big things can be :o
*chuckle*
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:32 pm
by Jstar1
thats crazy
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:39 pm
by Devilman
Now that is very awesome. It's mind boggling when you think about how huge things can be, and that even the biggest of the huge is created from something so infinitesimal.
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:55 pm
by Fresh
Draquish wrote:vietxboy911 wrote:Corevalue wrote:Looks cool, it's quite weird if you think about how small and how big things can be :o
*chuckle*
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:13 am
by EvGa
NuclearSilo wrote:hey i got 2 questions:
- did they really observe the strings at the size 10e-35 or it's just a supposition it's located at that size?
- what's the technique to get the size of the observable universe?
- No, they can not observe strings. That size was derived from the theory built on mathematical calculations, observations, etc.
- A lot goes into it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe Basically, what we can see or what we "technically" can see.
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:59 am
by cin
NuclearSilo wrote:- did they really observe the strings at the size 10e-35 or it's just a supposition it's located at that size?
you're the one that believes in ghosts right?
no disrespect or whatever, just found it funny that you believe
in ghosts then ask if someone actually saw those strings
btw it says right next to the strings that
in theory they exist at
that level. but i guess you read that before asking your question
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:03 am
by SM-Count
Stop feeding lies, neutrinos do not pass through objects undisturbed, all lies QQQQ
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:13 am
by EvGa
SM-Count wrote:Stop feeding lies, neutrinos do not pass through objects undisturbed, all lies QQQQ
They pretty much do >.>
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:44 am
by .Banshee
NuclearSilo wrote:hey i got 2 questions:
- did they really observe the strings at the size 10e-35 or it's just a supposition it's located at that size?
- what's the technique to get the size of the observable universe?
The speed of light. I don't know for sure but you can measure the age of the universe and how far we can see it by measuring how long it takes light to reach us. IDK if that makes sense or not.
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:55 am
by Heosphoros
Corevalue wrote:Looks cool, it's quite weird if you think about how small and how big things can be :o
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:56 pm
by NuclearSilo
cin wrote:NuclearSilo wrote:- did they really observe the strings at the size 10e-35 or it's just a supposition it's located at that size?
you're the one that believes in ghosts right?
no disrespect or whatever, just found it funny that you believe
in ghosts then ask if someone actually saw those strings
btw it says right next to the strings that
in theory they exist at
that level. but i guess you read that before asking your question
Nice try to derail the topic into a ghost/spirit thread. It's also funny that you believe in theory and not believing in ghosts and spirits.
.Banshee wrote:NuclearSilo wrote:hey i got 2 questions:
- did they really observe the strings at the size 10e-35 or it's just a supposition it's located at that size?
- what's the technique to get the size of the observable universe?
The speed of light. I don't know for sure but you can measure the age of the universe and how far we can see it by measuring how long it takes light to reach us. IDK if that makes sense or not.
That's what made all calculations become wrong because light doesn't go straight, it is curved by forces on the space.
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:18 pm
by evilpeta
ESTIMATIONS GODDAMMIT
APPROXIMATIONS AND ESTIMATIONS. FCK!
SHIT!
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:23 pm
by *BlackFox
Wow, That is pretty crazy
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:38 pm
by EvGa
NuclearSilo wrote:That's what made all calculations become wrong because light doesn't go straight, it is curved by forces on the space.
Yes, gravity curves light. So what?
What do scientific theories have to do with ghosts and spirits?
/no thread derail, lets discuss physics.
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:50 pm
by Goseki
I'm pretty sure all the recent calculations take into account the bending of light as it passes by stars. Even dark objects like black hole can be see if the light coming in isn't even. It's not like they take a point measurement from A->B to find the distance from here to the center of the universe. It's more of A1-100000 -> B1-100000. Each point would be in a different position looking at several spots from varying angles. Than see if any discrepancies arise. If any do, you scan the surrounding area to see if any objects exists that could cause the wavelength to differ.
Course you'd have to ask an actual Physics/Astronomy professor to see if that is how they do it, but that would seem like a pretty simply way to ensure better data.
The edge of the universe is calculated based on the theory of the Big Bang. If all things started at the same wavelength of light from the explosion, the expansion of the universe is constant, than over time, the light from the initial explosion (edge of universe now) can still be seen, only it will be shifted greatly. If the universe was a singularity at one point, or came from a single explosion, than the light taken from all points in the sphere around us should be the same. While scanning, they found that it was true. Pretty much a constant light all around us except for a few points coming from large objects.
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:12 pm
by cin
NuclearSilo wrote:Nice try to derail the topic into a ghost/spirit thread. It's also funny that you believe in theory and not believing in ghosts and spirits.
i didnt mean to derail it in that way nor did i say
i believe what's on that site O.o im just not that
interested in either of the things. i was just saying
that i personally found it somewhat entertaining that
you believe one theory but ask questions about an
other which in basics is the same -> theory.
but dont let this derail lol i'm sorry if i did.
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:17 pm
by NuclearSilo
well, 100% belief? No. There is always doubt in everything in me.
Let's say I choose to blindly believe in something. If you ask me if I'm sure about something, then I'd answer I'm not sure.
Since I'm not 100% sure, it means that I have doubt. Since I have doubt, it's alright to question something whether it has the same theory/basic with other thing or not.
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:26 am
by Pinoy_Archer
I wonder how this thread will go when i say:
OMG! This is how GOD created this world! So wonderful and very complicated. WOW GOD ROCKS!
i would really die in laughter is someone really tries to quote my post. And oh yeah i really like it! Ive been searching this for soo long and i'm really looking forward to memorize this all! Thanks man!
Re: The Scale of the Universe
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:29 am
by EvGa
Goseki wrote:The edge of the universe is calculated based on the theory of the Big Bang. If all things started at the same wavelength of light from the explosion, the expansion of the universe is constant, than over time, the light from the initial explosion (edge of universe now) can still be seen, only it will be shifted greatly. If the universe was a singularity at one point, or came from a single explosion, than the light taken from all points in the sphere around us should be the same. While scanning, they found that it was true. Pretty much a constant light all around us except for a few points coming from large objects.
It doesn't quite work like that. We know the universe is bigger than what we can actually observe. The further from our viewpoint you look, the faster objects are moving away, space between things is moving. At a certain distance from us objects are moving away faster than the speed of light, yes that's right..faster than light. We can't see past that point. However, the objects themselves are not moving faster than the speed of light, space is expanding faster than light.. Now, to really make it weird, this happens at any point in the universe. Technically we are the center of the universe, but if we were somewhere else, millions of light years away from Earth, our observable universe would just shift to there. It's strange stuff.
The universe is infinite, but has finite boundaries.
We can "see" back to the big bang...but in all directions. There is no center of the universe. Space is expanding everywhere.
Pinoy, lol, no thread derail menz.