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Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:09 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
Iv not long upgrade my case, worked out airflow in the new case have cooling on my ram and good cooling on the processor and want to look at overclocking its new territory for me i know a lot about computers but iv always been too scared to try overclocking heard bad stories so im asking for help.
this is my computer setup
computerdont know why the ram is only running at 333mhz (iv got 2 sticks of 1066mhz, the other 2 sticks run at 667mhz))
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:17 am
by Amarisa
for gpu you can use rivatunner but for cpu overclock you have to mess with the bios so when you boot up you press delete (at least most of the time) i would say go on youtube and look at people overclock your computer. just don't rush in and overclock it to much at a time or you could kill the thing.
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:21 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
Amarisa wrote:for gpu you can use rivatunner but for cpu overclock you have to mess with the bios so when you boot up you press delete (at least most of the time) i would say go on youtube and look at people overclock your computer. just don't rush in and overclock it to much at a time or you could kill the thing.
well tbh with newer chips they are harder to kill unless i push too much voltage onto it which i cnt do though this mobo lol just knowing good stable amounts but yeh il look on the net, no point overclocking gpu i plan on upgrading to the gf100 when its released
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:28 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
buz kill to this topic the phenomx4 I 9750 cant be overclocked past 2.83ghz much (ofc does depend on mobo) something to do with it been an early architechure so il wait til i get the phenomx4 II Black Edition much easier to overclock from what good tells me shame when this chip is running under 30oC atm just shouts overclock
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:56 am
by EvGa
Start here:
HereNext, whats up with your cpu-z reading? Your multiplier is 6..it should be set to 12. It's running at 1200mhz instead of the stock 2400.
Your ram is running at 333mhz because you have a memory divider (3:5)(FSB:MemMhz) set in your bios. Stock it should say 400mhz, (1:2). For now, stick with the (3:5) divider so your ram will stay slightly underclocked as you raise the FSB. This will keep the ram from becoming a stability issue, have to focus on one item at a time.
Proof that I know what I'm doing:
CPU-Z 2.5Ghz @ 3.6Ghz - My 9800GT is at 700/1100.
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:16 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
i have a ram fan i got with my dominator ram shouldnt that help keep the ram stable?
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:20 am
by EvGa
[SD]Master_Wong wrote:i have a ram fan i got with my dominator ram shouldnt that help keep the ram stable?
It just depends.. sometimes heat isn't an issue, lack of voltage is. If you keep the ram divider like it is, when you start raising the FSB to overclock the cpu, your ram frequency will go up also..slowly getting closer to 400mhz.
Leave it at (3:5) for now so you don't have two variables while overclocking your cpu. If something is unstable you don't want to have to check both the memory and cpu. Work on one thing at a time. See how high and stable you can get the cpu THEN you can mess with ram dividers. Don't try doing everything at once..it's too hard to pinpoint the instability.
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:58 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
yeh i read that on the website hehe well tbh with my memory im running 2 chips as i said above so really when iv got the money il fix that buy buying another 2gb of corsiar dominator ram
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:29 am
by EvGa
Adding more ram won't change the divider..
I didn't read the guide I posted, but it's from a reputable site. I was a long time member of a computer oc'ing forum long before I even thought about playing SRO or finding this place.
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:48 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
EvGa wrote:Adding more ram won't change the divider..
I didn't read the guide I posted, but it's from a reputable site. I was a long time member of a computer oc'ing forum long before I even thought about playing SRO or finding this place.
no it wont but its better then trying to overclock 2 types of ram only thing the ram is got in common is the maker
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:51 am
by EvGa
Ahh, I see what you're saying, to replace the 5300. Didn't notice you had mismatched sticks.
In the meantime, fix your multiplier... you're running a 1200mhz UNDERclock. lol
(unless cpu-z is reporting wrong, I doubt it)
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:17 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
il fix that now
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:28 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
i changed something to 12.00 x yet nothing has changed on my system now its all loaded up :\
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:29 am
by EvGa
[SD]Master_Wong wrote:i changed something to 12.00 x yet nothing has changed on my system now its all loaded up :\
Try cpu-z, is it still reporting a 6x multi? Did you save the bios settings?
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:31 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
pressed f10 to save and exit it restarted the computer
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:49 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
got it to say the right numbers but watching it it seems to jump between
1200x6 and 2400x12 its up and down each update usually stays in the lower end could it be something to do with the fact im hardly using it atm?
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:01 am
by EvGa
Ah, ok that's why it was reporting wrong. There is an option (on intel systems CoolNQuiet) that reduces the mutli while the cpu isn't in use to help keep it cool. It's usually recommended to turn that off while overclocking so you know what mhz you're running at all times. Easier to check for stability problems like that.
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:05 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
yeh amd has something similar il find it and turn it off
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:28 am
by MiKe 51-50
you should only use the 6400 ram. The other ones are slowing you down.
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:24 pm
by _Equal_
Ugh, it's been a long time since I've overclocked, but EVGA has all the answers down pat. Always change one thing at a time, test for stability then change others.
I'm building a "new" pc - Abit IP35 plus E7400 plus Corsair RAM, debating on whether to buy a Nvidia GTS250 or stick with my 8800GS.
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:01 pm
by .AWAKE.
dont go over the mobo CPU voltage limit LOL
I pressed the power button and smoke rose off my mobo LOL
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:08 pm
by [SD]Master_Wong
MiKe 51-50 wrote:you should only use the 6400 ram. The other ones are slowing you down.
i think i said this already
but yeh i think iv got all my answers just got to start trying it
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:33 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
well i had to open the computer anyways to install a couple of things while i was doing that i took out the 2 sticks of older slower ram its helped
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1013535also did some cable management cleared up 90% of the cables behind the computer and in the front of the computer where they are out of sight
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:57 am
by Amarisa
i got a question that slightly relates to this.... my cpu is a 2.6 ghz model but its running at a faster speed not by much but more then .01 of a ghz. that normal or is my cpu outa wack? i have not messed with the core speeds at all.
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:26 am
by EvGa
That's normal. It's usually never exact.
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:55 pm
by [SD]Master_Wong
im having a problem my ram is 2.1 V but is currently running at 1.8v when i pump the juice up to 2.1v i got the blue screen what am i doing wrong?
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:59 pm
by Amarisa
[SD]Master_Wong wrote:im having a problem my ram is 2.1 V but is currently running at 1.8v when i pump the juice up to 2.1v i got the blue screen what am i doing wrong?
it could be that your motherboard does not support that high?
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:16 pm
by [SD]Master_Wong
mobo should suppport it il check edit: it does il try it again maybe i did something wrong
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:19 am
by Amarisa
[SD]Master_Wong wrote:mobo should suppport it il check edit: it does il try it again maybe i did something wrong
did you change anything else too?
Re: Overclocking
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:20 am
by [SD]Master_Wong
il try again later i might of changed something else i dont think i did except taking things off auto