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10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:18 am
by GaGa
1. Vancouver, Canada
2. Vienna, Austria
3. Melbourne, Australia
4. Toronto, Canada
5. Perth, Australia
6. Calgary, Canada
7. Helsinki, Finland
8. Geneva, Switzerland
9. Sydney, Australia
10. Zürich, Switzerland
-The worst city to live on earth is Harare, the strife-torn capital of Zimbabwe.
Discuss
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:32 am
by Locketart
Subjective.
Also, source? I want to see how much bias is in these statistics.
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:36 am
by asusi
I don't agree with that Zimbabwe is the most city to live, how about Palestine? Baghdad?
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:44 am
by GaGa
Subjective, sure but it
is based on the annual survey of living conditions. Both the Mercer Quality of Living Survey and The Economist's World's Most Livable Cities do not include entertainment and enjoyment, and for that reason some of the highest ranking cities aren't necessarily cities which automatically spring to mind as being the most desirable places to live.
i.e. Zürich (350,000), Helsinki (1,300,000), and Geneva (185,000) are often considered bland and boring in comparison to the larger cities of Sydney (5,000,000), Melbourne (4,000,000) and Toronto (4,700,000).
On and the source is
Belfast Telegraph Newslink
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:49 am
by strangelove
That list was according to The Economist.
These are from Monocle, which is a lifestyle magazine.
1 Zürich, Switzerland
2 Copenhagen, Denmark
3 Tokyo, Japan
4 Munich, Germany
5 Helsinki, Finland
6 Stockholm, Sweden
7 Vienna, Austria
8 Paris, France
9 Melbourne, Australia
10 Berlin, Germany
I find it odd that one includes Canada multiple times and the other none at all. Not sure what criteria The Economist used, but according to Monocle, they based results on "safety/crime, international connectivity, climate/sunshine, quality of architecture, public transportation, tolerance, Environmental issues and access to nature, urban design, business conditions, pro active policy developments and medical care."
Economist source: http://www.economist.com/markets/rankin ... d=13809770 (registration required)
Monocle: http://www.monocle.com/Magazine/volume-3/Issue-25/ (subscription required)
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:54 am
by Reise
asusi wrote:I don't agree with that Zimbabwe is the most city to live, how about Palestine? Baghdad?
Africa is 1000 times more farked than the middle east.
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:02 am
by Blurred
number one should be Detroit, USA.
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:42 am
by Ganja
Blurred wrote:number one should be Detroit, USA.
Maybe if their football team didn't blow.
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:07 pm
by MrJoey
I'm quite sure Detroit would be no where near the top of the list.
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:15 pm
by Miguez
How about Belgium, I went there for christmas to see my brother and loved it, went to Bruxels and Gent;
Well now that I come to think of it, other than Belgium I only went to Spain... But I really liked it
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:27 pm
by GaGa
I think the highest ranked city in the US, was Seattle at 50th.
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:24 pm
by dom
Fug_Dup wrote:That list was according to The Economist.
These are from Monocle, which is a lifestyle magazine.
1 Zürich, Switzerland
2 Copenhagen, Denmark
3 Tokyo, Japan
4 Munich, Germany
5 Helsinki, Finland
6 Stockholm, Sweden
7 Vienna, Austria
8 Paris, France
9 Melbourne, Australia
10 Berlin, Germany
I find it odd that one includes Canada multiple times and the other none at all. Not sure what criteria The Economist used, but according to Monocle, they based results on "safety/crime, international connectivity, climate/sunshine, quality of architecture, public transportation, tolerance, Environmental issues and access to nature, urban design, business conditions, pro active policy developments and medical care."
Economist source: http://www.economist.com/markets/rankin ... d=13809770 (registration required)
Monocle: http://www.monocle.com/Magazine/volume-3/Issue-25/ (subscription required)
I suspect it may be the weather.
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:57 pm
by peex
I would love to live in Austria or Switzerland. Japan would be cool too..maybe..
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:28 pm
by wootpops
Fug_Dup wrote:That list was according to The Economist.
These are from Monocle, which is a lifestyle magazine.
1 Zürich, Switzerland
2 Copenhagen, Denmark
3 Tokyo, Japan
4 Munich, Germany
5 Helsinki, Finland
6 Stockholm, Sweden
7 Vienna, Austria
8 Paris, France
9 Melbourne, Australia
10 Berlin, Germany
I find it odd that one includes Canada multiple times and the other none at all. Not sure what criteria The Economist used, but according to Monocle, they based results on "safety/crime, international connectivity, climate/sunshine, quality of architecture, public transportation, tolerance, Environmental issues and access to nature, urban design, business conditions, pro active policy developments and medical care."
Economist source: http://www.economist.com/markets/rankin ... d=13809770 (registration required)
Monocle: http://www.monocle.com/Magazine/volume-3/Issue-25/ (subscription required)
i think yours is more accurate because if the economist used that criteria Toronto public transit sucks,Vancouver is a little better but not by much. And there's quite a bit of crime in both places with Vancouver being noticeably worse than Toronto. but we all know Toronto is the center of the universe.Just ask anyone from Toronto.
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:39 pm
by CloudStrider
FUCK YEAH AUSTRALIA!!
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:07 pm
by heroo
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
everything is legal
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:24 pm
by DumboDii
heroo wrote:Amsterdam, The Netherlands
everything is legal
I heard that they are going to close some of the weed bars
Also FINLAND F
UCK YEAH
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:36 pm
by Mirosuke
:| wut
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:46 pm
by KillAndChill
Well damn, I was expecting College Park, Georgia to be on that list...
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:00 pm
by Blurred
MrJoey wrote:I'm quite sure Detroit would be no where near the top of the list.
If it were the worst cities, then yeah.
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:12 pm
by Kolossal
scandinavians countries r the best i guess.
Idk why but they give me that impression, denmark, finland, sweden, norway n so on. also i would like to know how the life in [Reykavyk]<-- dunno the spelling and lazy to find the name somewhere (which is the iceland's capital or at least i always thought that NO FLAMEZ if i am wrong xD)
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:31 pm
by Azilius
No surprise Canada is somewhere on the list..
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:58 pm
by Shadow
DumboDii wrote:Also FINLAND FUCK YEAH
lol'd.
(Sauna! Fuck yeah! Kossu! Fuck yeah! Snow! Fuck yeah! Winter war! Fuck yeah! Kekkonen! Fuck yeah!...)Not surprised by Germany and Nordic countries taking the cake.
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:07 pm
by dom
Shadow wrote:DumboDii wrote:Also FINLAND FUCK YEAH
lol'd.
(Sauna! Fuck yeah! Kossu! Fuck yeah! Snow! Fuck yeah! Winter war! Fuck yeah! Kekkonen! Fuck yeah!...)
(Decent Hockey Players! Fuck yeah! Disco Ensemble! Fuck yeah! Madventures! Fuck yeah!...)
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:09 pm
by Kolossal
Italy isnt considered at all
my country sux on everything except on wine o.O
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:17 pm
by TheDrop
Forbes magazine rates my suburb (Fairfax) 3rd best place to live in the US, so not surprised no US cities are on there lol
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:31 am
by Ganja
KillAndChill wrote:Well damn, I was expecting College Park, Georgia to be on that list...
Yeah maybe if they could actually arrest murderers and rapists or any criminal.
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:40 am
by Dystopia
1. Vancouver, Canada
2. Vienna, Austria
3. Melbourne, Australia
4. Toronto, Canada
5. Perth, Australia
6. Calgary, Canada
7. Helsinki, Finland
8. Geneva, Switzerland
9. Sydney, Australia
10. Zürich, Switzerland
-The worst city to live on earth is Harare, the strife-torn capital of Zimbabwe.
We win.
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:50 am
by GaGa
London has failed to make the top 50 “most live-able” cities, according to worldwide analysis by the Economist Intelligence Unit.
Canada’s Vancouver scooped the top spot having met an impressive 98% of the criteria set by the surveyors, including the quality of healthcare, culture, environment and infrastructure.
Vienna in Austria is ranked second, closely followed by Melbourne, Australia. The top 20 includes five Australian cities, three Canadian cities and two German cities.
Manchester is the only UK city to make the top 50, coming in at 46th place and beating London’s ranking of 51st place.
The poorest performing locations were Africa and Asia “where civil instability and poor infrastructure present significant challenges,” the survey found. Harare in Zimbabwe was ranked 140th out of 140 having met just 37.5% of the criteria set by the surveyors.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 99988.html
Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:47 am
by Memories
Fuck yeah Vancouver! Woo!