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Interesting if you ask me, mods lock this thread if you dare to start talk sh*t about religions or disrespect, he got some more videos check it out...
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:54 pm
by heroo
it's called propaganda.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:59 pm
by ApocalypticDeath
Good video and totally agree with this guy.. and it's not just only Islam but any religion.. there are some factions of extremist in every religion and the media just focuses on the extreme retards rather then the reality.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:07 pm
by Strwarrior
take 10$ say bla bla...
ontopic, i didnt even listen to him >.<
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:13 pm
by w00t
Pff, Please bring up something new. Our whole life is manipulated by the media. I can tell you cuz I work as a cameraman in the netherlands. Everything you see on TV is fake.
TV is about rating, so they just try to make everything as juicy as possible just to get people to watch it.
For example a colluege of mine went to Irak, They put a teddy bear on the floor between some descructed houses and asked him to make a shot of it. Just to let the people back home see that a "little kid lost his bear and died".
Yes, I'm sick and tired of media too, i agree with you w00t, But problem is people believe everything what they see on TV, that makes things even more complicated.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:19 pm
by w00t
Yes and it makes me even more tired that 95% of the people on this earth who own a TV believe every single thing it broadcasts. Damnit people. THINK
Only channel I still like is nat geo. Im trying to get to work for them. Would be killer
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:20 pm
by Beethoven
Peaceful religion? Read the first pages of the Qur'an, it talks about killing non-believers! The first pages!!! Impossible to miss!
It doesn't matter anyways, atheism is rising! No dogmas, no gods, no masters, no non sense!
Everyone knows Islam and Christianity is this secret black vs. white war. Religion is nothing more but a fashion statement.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:23 pm
by asusi
Beethoven wrote:It doesn't matter, atheism is rising.
Hey bro, i didn't made this thread about what religion is beter, i made this to clear things up and for people who twist media shit with religion. so please....
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:24 pm
by inky
I could sympathize with the man since it's the same case for every group; people tend to base their opinions on the actions of a few rather than looking at the bigger picture. I personally think that there's nothing wrong with showing the flaws and negative effects that religion has on people but I also think that the media does tend to focus more on the bullshit coming out of Islamic fundamentalists than any other fundamentalists from other religions.
I do feel sorry for the regular Muslims out there who are being dragged into the whole "violent" category because of the actions of others. I just don't agree with these religious folks who promote their religion as a "peace-loving" belief, but I do feel that they truly believe in what they say (good for them). My dislike of religion is not exclusively against Islam but against religion as a whole.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:27 pm
by w00t
inky wrote:I could sympathize with the man since it's the same case for every group; people tend to base their opinions on the actions of a few rather than looking at the bigger picture. I personally think that there's nothing wrong with showing the flaws and negative effects that religion has on people but I also think that the media does tend to focus more on the bullshit coming out of Islamic fundamentalists than any other fundamentalists from other religions.
I do feel sorry for the regular Muslims out there who are being dragged into the whole "violent" category because of the actions of others. I just don't agree with these religious folks who promote their religion as a "peace-loving" belief, but I do feel that they truly believe in what they say (good for them). My dislike of religion is not exclusively against Islam but against religion as a whole.
The media isnt just a part of the problem. It is the biggest part of the problem! They have got so much power. Would be nice if they used it wisely and gave us correct information instead of the usual "how do we get the highest ratings" bullshit.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:30 pm
by inky
w00t wrote:
inky wrote:I could sympathize with the man since it's the same case for every group; people tend to base their opinions on the actions of a few rather than looking at the bigger picture. I personally think that there's nothing wrong with showing the flaws and negative effects that religion has on people but I also think that the media does tend to focus more on the bullshit coming out of Islamic fundamentalists than any other fundamentalists from other religions.
I do feel sorry for the regular Muslims out there who are being dragged into the whole "violent" category because of the actions of others. I just don't agree with these religious folks who promote their religion as a "peace-loving" belief, but I do feel that they truly believe in what they say (good for them). My dislike of religion is not exclusively against Islam but against religion as a whole.
The media isnt just a part of the problem. It is the biggest part of the problem! They have got so much power. Would be nice if they used it wisely and gave us correct information instead of the usual "how do we get the highest ratings" bullshit.
Wishful thinking
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:30 pm
by asusi
w00t wrote:
inky wrote:I could sympathize with the man since it's the same case for every group; people tend to base their opinions on the actions of a few rather than looking at the bigger picture. I personally think that there's nothing wrong with showing the flaws and negative effects that religion has on people but I also think that the media does tend to focus more on the bullshit coming out of Islamic fundamentalists than any other fundamentalists from other religions.
I do feel sorry for the regular Muslims out there who are being dragged into the whole "violent" category because of the actions of others. I just don't agree with these religious folks who promote their religion as a "peace-loving" belief, but I do feel that they truly believe in what they say (good for them). My dislike of religion is not exclusively against Islam but against religion as a whole.
The media isnt just a part of the problem. It is the biggest part of the problem! They have got so much power. Would be nice if they used it wisely and gave us correct information instead of the usual "how do we get the highest ratings" bullshit.
Exactly, but it's not only non-Muslims take wrong information from media, same thing goes for Muslims too, and when you combine you get war, hate, etc etc...
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:32 pm
by w00t
If I was living in the states I would sue the heir of the TV inventor for getting us into war lol
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:36 pm
by inky
w00t wrote:If I was living in the states I would sue the heir of the TV inventor for getting us into war lol
You probably could. People sue for everything here.
One of the things I noticed about the media is that you always get good scores of raging Muslims rallying about everything but almost nothing about angry Christians condemning everything to hell. Then again, I guess the child-molesting priests and Ted Haggard makes up for that.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:37 pm
by Ashikiheyun
Good points that I agree with. I found his voice and cinematography (I believe that's the right word, basically the constant changing of how close he was to the camera) very annoying though.
StrWarrior, why didn't you listen? If I recall, you are Muslim, this video is on your side, you should be happy about it.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:39 pm
by w00t
If they start to rage on christians in the states there is gonna be hell to pay I guess. All those fake religious people will go mad! As it appears to me I always find most of the americans I see very hypocrit if its about religion. I think their fake. But hey guess where I got my information from (tv) so im prolly wrong
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:48 pm
by NuclearSilo
I hijacked it
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:50 pm
by w00t
NuclearSilo wrote:I hijacked it
Sigh, Happy with ur postcount +1 ?
If you dont have anything to add just dont add BS.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:10 pm
by Strwarrior
Beethoven wrote:Peaceful religion? Read the first pages of the Qur'an, it talks about killing non-believers! The first pages!!! Impossible to miss!
95% believe every single thing tv broadcasts. Damnit people. THINK
p.s, islam=peaceful, as much as u try, think, hear, learn, that its not. fact= fact, u cant change it. non believers were living in muslims countries and NONE were killed.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:13 pm
by w00t
And why did you quote me?
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:22 pm
by Strwarrior
w00t wrote:And why did you quote me?
because i wanted him to know that he shouldnt believe everything he see in tv, or anywhere.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:27 pm
by w00t
Ah ok, I thought you tried to make something clear to me but I didnt get what it could be :p
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:00 pm
by *BlackFox
Strwarrior wrote:because i wanted him to know that he shouldnt believe everything he see in tv, or anywhere.
Yeah QFT. I wonder what would happen.. if all did believe in everything.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:01 pm
by ApocalypticDeath
Wars make news and news fuel wars .. gotta hate the fox news network! I swear if they started propaganda against lets say xyz then half of America would hate xyz.. people are addicted to being fed fabricated news and love inhaling false hope.
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:18 pm
by w00t
you mean their just plain stupid and stopped thinking for themselfes ?
Re: Who hijacked Islam?!
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:07 pm
by Blindfire
Strwarrior wrote:he shouldnt believe everything see anywhere.
Beethoven wrote:Read the first pages of the Qur'an, it talks about killing non-believers!