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thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:33 pm
by Jstar1
http://finance.yahoo.com/college-education/article/107402/most-lucrative-college-degrees.html?mod=edu-collegeprep

Yeah thats right, dont even try to say you havent made fun of a math kid when you were in high school. Whose laughing now?


Most lucrative college degrees
Hint: Grab a pencil, calculator, protractor ... or a drill. Engineering majors snag most of the top spots.

By Julianne Pepitone, CNNMoney.com contributing writer
July 24, 2009: 4:39 AM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Math majors don't always get much respect on college campuses, but fat post-grad wallets should be enough to give them a boost.

The top 15 highest-earning college degrees all have one thing in common -- math skills.
That's according to a recent survey from the National Association of Colleges and Employers, which tracks college graduates' job offers.

"Math is at the crux of who gets paid," said Ed Koc, director of research at NACE. "If you have those skills, you are an extremely valuable asset. We don't generate enough people like that in this country."

This year Rochester Institute of Technology hosted recruiters from defense-industry firms like Lockheed Martin (LMT, Fortune 500) and Northrop Grumman (NOC, Fortune 500), as well as other big companies like Microsoft (MSFT, Fortune 500) and Johnson & Johnson (JNJ, Fortune 500).

"The tech fields are what's driving salaries and offers, and the top students are faring quite well," said Emanuel Contomanolis, who runs RIT's career center.

Specifically, engineering diplomas account for 12 of the 15 the top-paying majors. NACE collects its data by surveying 200 college career centers.

Energy is the key. Petroleum engineering was by far highest-paying degree, with an average starting offer of $83,121, thanks to that resource's growing scarcity. Graduates with these degrees generally find work locating oil and gas reservoirs, or in developing ways to bring those resources to the Earth's surface.

"Exploration for new energy sources is high," Koc said. "The oil and gas industry has done relatively well the past year, even though oil prices are off right now."

Other highly-paid engineering majors include chemical engineers, who employ their skills to make everything from plastics to fuel cells and have an average starting offer of $64,902.

Mining engineers start at $64,404 on average, while computer engineers, who have an expertise in both coding and electrical engineering, pocket roughly $61,738 their first year out of school.

Left behind. Of course, not every student with an engineering degree will score a fat paycheck. RIT's Contomanolis noted that "average" graduates are feeling the pinch of fewer job offers. Still, in a tough job market, graduates with technology degrees have an advantage.

"It's a tech-driven world, and demand [for engineers] is only going to grow," said Farnoosh Torabi, employment expert and Quicken blog editor. "You can't say that about many fields, especially in a recession."

Perhaps that's why more and more college students are picking their majors based on a field's earning power, ultimately "choosing a major that pays," Torabi said.

Top non-engineering fields. Only three of the 15 top paying degrees were outside the field of engineering -- but they each still require math skills.

For computer science majors, who specialize in programming and software, the average salary was $61,407. Graduates with degrees in actuarial science took home about $56,320; and jobs for students in construction management paid about $53,199. Each of these fields has paid well throughout the years, Koc said.

What happened to well-rounded? There are far fewer people graduating with math-based majors, compared to their liberal-arts counterparts, which is why they are paid at such a premium. The fields of engineering and computer science each make up about 4% of all college graduates, while social science and history each comprise 16%, Koc noted.

As a result, salaries for graduates who studied fields like social work command tiny paychecks, somewhere in the vicinity of $29,000. English, foreign language and communications majors make about $35,000, Koc said.

"It's a supply and demand issue," he added. "So few grads offer math skills, and those who can are rewarded." To top of page

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:45 pm
by Mindy
Yeah thats right, dont even try to say you havent made fun of a math kid when you were in high school. Whose laughing now?


I can say i havent.

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:58 pm
by bot_antist
err only 81k?

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:02 pm
by Blindfire
Err, that's fresh out of university. Their pay goes up.

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:33 pm
by woutR
Is this a surprise?
You don't do the hardest studies and get crap salary because of it.

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:36 pm
by zShared
Mindy wrote:
Yeah thats right, dont even try to say you havent made fun of a math kid when you were in high school. Whose laughing now?


I can say i havent.

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:45 pm
by XemnasXD
woutR wrote:Is this a surprise?
You don't do the hardest studies and get crap salary because of it.

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:00 pm
by Ryoko
You also have to be good at it, and work your ass off. Unfortunately, engineering isnt one of those positions where you make your salary by playing golf with the CEO every other day. Though a chemical engineer I did projects for some years ago DID say, your salary is directly related to your golf handicap.

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:15 pm
by Jstar1
woutR wrote:Is this a surprise?
You don't do the hardest studies and get crap salary because of it.


Yeah I know it isnt news to me, but a lot people (oh and read carefully I didn't say everybody) at my school sneer at me for being good at math.

Or they say "math/science isn't everything" and then go on preaching to me about how art or social sciences is necessary for a successful life

Ryoko wrote:Though a chemical engineer I did projects for some years ago DID say, your salary is directly related to your golf handicap.


do you think that is why my dad keeps telling me to learn golf :banghead: :(

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:18 pm
by Ryoko
Oddly, some people are really smart in math/science but at the same time very stupid with little to no common sense lol

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:24 pm
by Barotix
Jstar1 wrote: art or social sciences is necessary for a successful life


Sure, if you want to be poor and hungry. [blunt]Ignore them as you're making 70k-81k fresh out of University while they eat the scraps from the bottom of the barrel [/blunt].

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:26 pm
by Miguez
I'm good at maths and languages but I hate arts/sciences

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:40 pm
by Reise
The funny part is there are people out there who hardly work at all and run entire businesses, employing people who work hard and are good at math.

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:11 pm
by Amarisa
nerds always win its a fact!

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:14 pm
by Squirt
Damn -.-.

I can remember pereodic table elements but I am horrible at math -.-.

Country needs scientist too =/.

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:41 pm
by TOloseGT
lucky, architecture students work their asses off and are under paid.

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:53 pm
by Element112
Mindy wrote:
Yeah thats right, dont even try to say you havent made fun of a math kid when you were in high school. Whose laughing now?


I can say i havent.

+1
but i guess that's because i am one.. haha. That said, I've never been made fun of for it? Most of the time, people are made fun of for their appearance or social awkwardness. It's never really their intellect.

Re: thats right NERDS WIN

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:00 pm
by Barotix
Element112 wrote:
Mindy wrote:
Yeah thats right, dont even try to say you havent made fun of a math kid when you were in high school. Whose laughing now?


I can say i havent.

+1
but i guess that's because i am one.. haha. That said, I've never been made fun of for it? Most of the time, people are made fun of for their appearance or social awkwardness. It's never really their intellect.


Srsly. Jstar, you're a pretty normal looking d00d. Tell those people to go fuck their self or (when dealing with airheads), my personal favorite, "put a dick in your mouth, preferably mine, kay-kay-tanks-buy (kkthxbai)." Reasoning won't work; it goes over their head.