We're having Radiation for our last topic in school before summer vacation, and we talked about lots of shit and other things as well.
Our teacher just popped excited saying that cell phone is bad. She then gave us a ASSIGNMENT to be searched at YOUTUBE(you serious?!...Answer: Hell yeah, i was like WTF in class) and she then said that she gave her phone away(anyways her cell was crappy to start with... good for her ).
So do you think that its like real or Just some rich guy angry about cellphone and made action or funded a movement to make a forced conclusion that cellphone bad for us.
Discuss...
in my poll i chosed "no" because, hell we're all gona die from different kind of disease anyways... better have fun while your at it rather than never have to use it more than 2 hours, big LOL...
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There have been several researches. One I saw on discovery (yeah yeah not so uber realible but still...) they put alot of people in a closed room. They all would call someone to phone. In the end they didn't detect any high levels of 'phone radiation'.
So I don't know if it's true, maybe its google-time to search for some stuff.
Tasdik wrote:I've also heard that deodorant can cause cancer. *Or something like that.*
i heard that too! okay i googled "deoderant harmful" and found that some deodorants contain:
Aluminum chlorohydrate, aluminum zirconium tetrachlorohydrex gly or any aluminum compounds. Aluminum is absorbed through the skin and accumulates in the body. It has been suggested that there is an association between aluminum and Alzheimer’s disease.
Googled some stuff, found out that some researches say that decrease of sperm quality is possibly linked to having a phone in your pocket or using it. Or something like that >.> I wonder if it's true, then a lot of people will get children with more problems and les children will be born cause its tougher to impregnate. I wonder.....
i need lots of stuff like this so that i can prove my teachers is uhm... how do i say it... like over reacting...
aside from deodorant i want to know more. please reply.
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Well, all the old deodrants .. and some that still exsist work by covering your sweat pores with tiny aluminium fragments. Microscopically thin. In general it works .. well obviously it works. But according to some tests it's likely to cause breast cancer in women .. guess the same for men. ( All tho breast cancer in men is damn rare )
Crumpets wrote:Well, all the old deodrants .. and some that still exsist work by covering your sweat pores with tiny aluminium fragments. Microscopically thin. In general it works .. well obviously it works. But according to some tests it's likely to cause breast cancer in women .. guess the same for men. ( All tho breast cancer in men is damn rare )
I haven't read up too much on the cell phone thing...I wouldn't be surprised if there was harmful radiation coming from them, but I think you'd have to have the phone to your ear a whole hell of a lot to have it negatively affect you. Texting FTW!
There are carcinogens in almost all personal hygeine products btw But for those of you worried about your armpits and breast cancer....(the tea one actually smells pretty dam good)
Brings back memories from December, 2006, an epidemiological study on cell phone dangers published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute sent the media into a frenzy. 10 Newspaper headlines blared: “Danish Study Shows Cell Phone Use is Safe,” while TV newscasters proclaimed, “Go ahead and talk all you want—it's safe!” The news seemed to be a holiday gift for cell phone users. But unfortunately, it’s a flawed study, funded by the cell phone industry and designed to bring a positive result. The industry’s public relations machine is working in overdrive to assure that the study get top-billing in the media worldwide.
Why Cell Phones are Dangerous; ( And it's all from Memory, so if there is something off, bear with me for a bit.)
A cellular phone is basically a radio that sends signals on waves to a base station. The carrier signal generates two types of radiation fields: a near-field plume and a far-field plume. Living organisms, too, generate electromagnetic fields at the cellular, tissue, organ, and organism level; this is called the biofield. Both the near-field and far-field plumes from cell phones and in the environment can wreak havoc with the human biofield, and when the biofield is compromised in any way, so is metabolism and physiology.
The near field plume is the one we’re most concerned with. This plume that’s generated within five or six inches of the center of a cell phone’s antenna is determined by the amount of power necessary to carry the signal to the base station. The more power there is, the farther the plume radiates the dangerous information-carrying radio waves.
A carrier wave oscillates at 1900 megahertz (MHz) in most phones, which is mostly invisible to our biological tissue and doesn’t do damage. The information-carrying secondary wave necessary to interpret voice or data is the problem. That wave cycles in a hertz (Hz) range familiar to the body. Your heart, for example, beats at two cycles per second, or two Hz. Our bodies recognize the information-carrying wave as an “invader,” setting in place protective biochemical reactions that alter physiology and cause biological problems that include intracellular free-radical buildup, leakage in the blood-brain barrier, genetic damage, disruption of inter cellular communication, and an increase in the risk of tumors. The health dangers of recognizing the signal, therefore, aren’t from direct damage, but rather are due to the biochemical responses in the cell.
Here’s what happens:
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Cellular energy is now used for protection rather than metabolism. Cell membranes harden, keeping nutrients out and waste products in. *
Waste accumulating inside the cells creates a higher concentration of free radicals, leading to both disruption of DNA repair (micro nuclei) and cellular dysfunction. *
Unwanted cell death occurs, releasing the micro nuclei from the disrupted DNA repair into the fluid between cells (interstitial fluid), where they are free to replicate and proliferate. Th is is the most likely mechanism that contributes to cancer. *
Damage occurs to proteins on the cell membrane, resulting in disruption of inter cellular communication. When cells can’t communicate with each other, the result is impaired tissue, organ, and organism function. In the blood-brain barrier, for example, cells can’t keep dangerous chemicals from reaching the brain tissue, which results in damage.
With the background levels of information-carrying radio waves dramatically increasing because of the widespread use of cell phones,Wi-Fi, and other wireless communication, the effects from the near and far-fields are very similar. Overall almost all of the acute and chronic symptoms seen in electro sensitive patients can be explained in some part by disrupted inter cellular communication. These symptoms of electro sensitivity include inability to sleep, general malaise, and headaches. Could this explain the increase in recent years of conditions such as attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), autism, and anxiety disorder?
One thing all these conditions have in common is a disruption, to varying degrees, of inter cellular communication. When we were growing up, TV antennas were on top of our houses and such waves were up in the sky. Cell phones and Wi-Fi have brought those things down to the street, integrated them into the environment, and that’s absolutely new. The recognition mechanism, where protein vibration sensors on the cell membrane pick up a signal and interpret it as an invader, only works because the body recognizes something it’s never seen before.
As to increases in brain tumors tied to cell phone use, it’s too early to tell due to a lack of hard data. We’re never going to see that in time to have it matter. By the time you see any data showing an increase, the ticking time bomb is set.
Epidemic curve projections, however, indicate that in 2006, we can expect to see 40,000 to 50,000 cases of brain and eye cancer. This is based on published peer-reviewed studies that allow calculation of risk and construction of epidemic curves. By 2010, expect that number to be between 400,000 and 500,000 new cases worldwide.
This means we’re on the beginning curve of an epidemic, with epidemic defined as a change in the occurrence of a disease that is so dramatic in its increase that it portends serious public health consequences. This is what’s not being told to the public. One of the things that was suggested to people who use a cell phone is to use an air tube headset. If you use a wired headset, the current moving through the wire of the headset attracts ambient informational carrying radio waves and thereby increases your exposure.
For those that care, I still use my phone on a regular basis, so no satellite head dish for me.
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According to my science teacher in order to get any adverse effects from cellphone radiation you would have to basically use it 24/7. Same with microwaves, they emit waves, but to actually get effected by micro-waves you would have to pop 10 bags of popcorn every hour every day of you life for around 20 years.
This means we’re on the beginning curve of an epidemic, with epidemic defined as a change in the occurrence of a disease that is so dramatic in its increase that it portends serious public health consequences. This is what’s not being told to the public. One of the things that was suggested to people who use a cell phone is to use an air tube headset. If you use a wired headset, the current moving through the wire of the headset attracts ambient informational carrying radio waves and thereby increases your exposure.
"Estimated new cases and deaths from brain and other nervous system tumors in the United States in 2008: New cases: 21,810"
I'll keep an eye out but I highly doubt a .5 watt transmitter (at the MOST) is going to be enough to generate a lot of EMF. This might have been a problem when they first came out as some of them had 4-5 watt transmitters.
If anything, I would be more concerned about the EMF in an office building, filled with hundreds of wires clustered in one place. Power lines generate EMF too, but electric workers don't die all that frequently unless they are working on high-voltage lines.
We're always on the beginning curve of an epidemic or some other nonsense. People have been using radios and headphones for decades now. If exposure to this magical cancer-causing electromagnetic field was anywhere as severe as they say it is we would be well into the epidemic by now.
Reise wrote:We're always on the beginning curve of an epidemic or some other nonsense. People have been using radios and headphones for decades now. If exposure to this magical cancer-causing electromagnetic field was anywhere as severe as they say it is we would be well into the epidemic by now.
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It brought up microwaves (ovens) to strengthen the 'radiation' point, but I'm certain I've read many places that it doesn't affect you. Wikipedia seems to agree (reliable or not).
Microwaves contain insufficient energy to directly chemically change substances by ionization, and so are an example of nonionizing radiation. The word "radiation" refers to the fact that energy can radiate. The term in this context is not to be confused with radioactivity. It has not been shown conclusively that microwaves (or other nonionizing electromagnetic radiation) have significant adverse biological effects at low levels. This is separate from the risks associated with very high intensity exposure, which can cause heating and burns like any heat source, and not a unique property of microwaves specifically.
There are conflicting studies regarding that issue and even though they somehow managed to prove that cellphones have enough energy to help contribute to the mutation of cells, I don't think a lot of people are going to go that far - it's just too inconvenient. There are so many other things that could CONTRIBUTE (not cause) to the formation of malignant/cancer tissue; anti-bacterial soap and anal-"boinking" are some examples. A cancer cell needs to go through 6 mutations (7 if you count the yet-to-be explained absence of immune response) in order to be considered dangerous which means that there are other factors involved. Besides, we all have cancer cells in our body right now but our immune system is taking care of them - otherwise we would've been all dead a long time ago.
Btw, almost everything you do contributes to the decline of your health - your body has no warranty for wear-and-tear, sorry. So just stop worrying about all these goddamn regurgitated media filler "news." Tell your teacher to read and study the facts before she starts spitting shit out to her students - she's a teacher and should be held liable for the things she passes on to her students. What a fucking disgrace.
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.curve wrote:I would think that the old school huge brick phones would be a lot less safe than the more technologically advanced stuff we have now.
True, maybe its because before they have larger/longer antenna because signals are hard to find.
takolin wrote:Running in the sun can give you cancer as well.
BTW would I be a hypocrite if I threw me cell away and started convincing others to do the same while smoking?
For how long should you bathe in the sun before getting cancer?
piootr wrote:According to my science teacher in order to get any adverse effects from cellphone radiation you would have to basically use it 24/7. Same with microwaves, they emit waves, but to actually get effected by micro-waves you would have to pop 10 bags of popcorn every hour every day of you life for around 20 years.
I'm soo gona tell her THIS!
Azilius wrote:It brought up microwaves (ovens) to strengthen the 'radiation' point, but I'm certain I've read many places that it doesn't affect you. Wikipedia seems to agree (reliable or not).
Microwaves contain insufficient energy to directly chemically change substances by ionization, and so are an example of nonionizing radiation. The word "radiation" refers to the fact that energy can radiate. The term in this context is not to be confused with radioactivity. It has not been shown conclusively that microwaves (or other nonionizing electromagnetic radiation) have significant adverse biological effects at low levels. This is separate from the risks associated with very high intensity exposure, which can cause heating and burns like any heat source, and not a unique property of microwaves specifically.
Pretty much, we cant relate to this since most of us in here barely even got a computer, how much more a Microwave oven can be. tnx for the info though
inky wrote:Btw, almost everything you do contributes to the decline of your health - your body has no warranty for wear-and-tear, sorry. So just stop worrying about all these goddamn regurgitated media filler "news." Tell your teacher to read and study the facts before she starts spitting shit out to her students - she's a teacher and should be held liable for the things she passes on to her students. What a fucking disgrace.
I didn't eat her shit(only this time), instead i want to prove her wrong, semi-right but still the majority is wrong.
iGod wrote:If radiation like that was that bad for us, we'd be dead a long time ago..
Reise wrote:We're always on the beginning curve of an epidemic or some other nonsense. People have been using radios and headphones for decades now. If exposure to this magical cancer-causing electromagnetic field was anywhere as severe as they say it is we would be well into the epidemic by now.
Snoopy wrote:People smoke and are aware of the dangers. People will continue to use phones despite the "invisible" dangers.
Very Convincing, it means even though some things are just too obvious and/or have been advertised that is bad still people tend to use it, just like the cellphone instead the information about this is still not widespread in here.
tnx guys for the extra info. This pretty much support the quote:
Life is Short...blah3x
Soo no worries... take you time while your alive because you know every second you pass you know your getting close to Death.
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