Russian Prime Minister Vladamir Putin has said the US should take a lesson from the pages of Russian history and not exercise “excessive intervention in economic activity and blind faith in the state’s omnipotence”.
“In the 20th century, the Soviet Union made the state’s role absolute,” Putin said during a speech at the opening ceremony of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “In the long run, this made the Soviet economy totally uncompetitive. This lesson cost us dearly. I am sure nobody wants to see it repeated.”
Sounding more like Barry Goldwater than the former head of the KGB, Putin said, “Nor should we turn a blind eye to the fact that the spirit of free enterprise, including the principle of personal responsibility of businesspeople, investors, and shareholders for their decisions, is being eroded in the last few months. There is no reason to believe that we can achieve better results by shifting responsibility onto the state.”
Putin also cautioned the US against using military Keynesianism to lift its economy out of recession, saying, “in the longer run, militarization won’t solve the problem but will rather quell it temporarily. What it will do is squeeze huge financial and other resources from the economy instead of finding better and wiser uses for them.” Putin’s comments come in sharp contrast to Russia’s own military buildup and expansion.
Putin also echoed the words of conservative maverick Ron Paul when he said, “we must assess the real situation and write off all hopeless debts and ‘bad’ assets. True, this will be an extremely painful and unpleasant process. Far from everyone can accept such measures, fearing for their capitalization, bonuses, or reputation. However, we would ‘conserve’ and prolong the crisis, unless we clean up our balance sheets.”
“The time for enlightenment has come. We must calmly, and without gloating, assess the root causes of this situation and try to peek into the future.
i agree with Putin... U.S. is turning to socialism everyday.
puttin cap on ceo salaries etc...
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:50 am
by cpinney
zZh4ku wrote: puttin cap on ceo salaries etc...
for company's that except bailout money.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:07 am
by SoAyame
Yeah dont wanna head down that path
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:36 am
by Snoopy
Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:03 am
by Midori
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
I agree.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:09 am
by Reise
X-Lax wrote:
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
I agree.
Putin can do whatever the **** he wants, because he's the man.
And I really don't think Obama could **** us up any worse than we are now.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:39 am
by XemnasXD
should he even be in office anymore...
anyone who thinks we're heading for russian socialism has their head very far up their ass
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:46 am
by user
cpinney wrote:
zZh4ku wrote: puttin cap on ceo salaries etc...
for company's that except bailout money.
+1
i'll farken nationalize those companies for the time being when they still owe the government money, and then privatize it after it repay the government
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:10 am
by Eeece
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
last a thing a aussie should do is shut the **** up and let the big nations talk
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:40 am
by ImmortalKiller
Eeece wrote:
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
last a thing a aussie should do is shut the **** up and let the big nations talk
LOL... We've got a Russian.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:17 am
by Sinner
Eeece wrote:
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
last a thing a aussie should do is shut the **** up and let the big nations talk
Last thing you should do is shut your ******* mouth up. Quit being a dick.
2ImmortalKiller. It doesn`t mean he`s Russian.. There might be only 1 or 2 Russians here.. They dont read these forums, believe me.
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
Agree.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:16 pm
by Barotix
X-Lax wrote:
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
I agree.
idd, That's why I put a question mark at the end of the thread. *cough* there's a nationalist in my thread *cough*
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:19 pm
by Eeece
Sinner wrote:
Eeece wrote:
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
last a thing a aussie should do is shut the **** up and let the big nations talk
Last thing you should do is shut your ******* mouth up. Quit being a dick.
2ImmortalKiller. It doesn`t mean he`s Russian.. There might be only 1 or 2 Russians here.. They dont read these forums, believe me.
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
Agree.
so u think u insult me by saying russians dont have internet right? ur wrong fucktard not being lot in games dosnt mean they dont have internet maybe they have life unlike fucks like u but u mother fuckers can only talk with someone when he is alone u Farking pussies i talked with snoopy not u shitter i bet in real life ud call all ur friends to fight a 8year old russian
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:34 pm
by user
Eeece wrote:
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
last a thing a aussie should do is shut the **** up and let the big nations talk
i loled in rl
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:40 pm
by PhoenixRider
Canada practices a mixed economy. Some socialism and some capitalism and we are doing pretty well by it. There is nothing wrong with socialism, but there is something wrong with communism and socialism together, which Russia practiced some time ago.
Plus, anyone who feels like they want to show their nationalistic pride by posting crap in this thread. Don't. It's ridiculous to go on with a "my country is better then your" debate, makes you guys sound retarded.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:50 pm
by AnemuS
Eeece wrote:so u think u insult me by saying russians dont have internet right? ur wrong fucktard not being lot in games dosnt mean they dont have internet maybe they have life unlike fucks like u but u mother fuckers can only talk with someone when he is alone u Farking pussies i talked with snoopy not u shitter i bet in real life ud call all ur friends to fight a 8year old russian
Heh I bet you are not even Russian xD but one of those "pretending" to be one's Why are you still not banned , all you do is shit the threads anyways...
big nation speaker - bleh lol
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:09 pm
by Sinner
Eeece wrote: so u think u insult me by saying russians dont have internet right? ur wrong fucktard not being lot in games dosnt mean they dont have internet maybe they have life unlike fucks like u but u mother fuckers can only talk with someone when he is alone u Farking pussies i talked with snoopy not u shitter i bet in real life ud call all ur friends to fight a 8year old russian
Watch your Farking mouth. I didnt say they dont have internet dumb ass. I said they dont browse these forums, and I know that for sure. I`m a Moderator on a Russian SRO Forum, so believe me, I know what I say. I didnt say anything bad bout them. I can talk with someone when he`s alone? Omg.. I`m not like you lol.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:09 pm
by Disconn3cted
I don't like how they put a cap on ceo salaries, at this rate socialism is coming.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:21 pm
by Axie
Sinner wrote:
Eeece wrote: so u think u insult me by saying russians dont have internet right? ur wrong fucktard not being lot in games dosnt mean they dont have internet maybe they have life unlike fucks like u but u mother fuckers can only talk with someone when he is alone u Farking pussies i talked with snoopy not u shitter i bet in real life ud call all ur friends to fight a 8year old russian
Watch your Farking mouth. I didnt say they dont have internet dumb ass. I said they dont browse these forums, and I know that for sure. I`m a Moderator on a Russian SRO Forum, so believe me, I know what I say. I didnt say anything bad bout them. I can talk with someone when he`s alone? Omg.. I`m not like you lol.
Um y do u refer to Russians as "they" if you're a mod on Russian forums that kinda proves that you're Russian or atleast Russian speaking so saying they Russians is kinda weird if you're Russian too XD
But on topic: who the hell cares what politicians say? And just like some1 mentioned before having a mixed economy seems to work better and like the example given it works pretty well in Canada
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:22 pm
by Midori
Disconn3cted wrote:I don't like how they put a cap on ceo salaries, at this rate socialism is coming.
Did you not read why?
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:58 pm
by cin
Eeece wrote:
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
last a thing a aussie should do is shut the **** up and let the big nations talk
warned.
why are you posting in topics like this, all you usually do is flame bait. i saw this is your 2nd warning on these boards, and i can assure you next time you're a problem i will personally press the ban button.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:37 pm
by Disconn3cted
X-Lax wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:I don't like how they put a cap on ceo salaries, at this rate socialism is coming.
Did you not read why?
I know its because the government gave them money but they shouldn't have taken government money in the first place unless they planned to pay it back.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:28 pm
by user
Disconn3cted wrote:
X-Lax wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:I don't like how they put a cap on ceo salaries, at this rate socialism is coming.
Did you not read why?
I know its because the government gave them money but they shouldn't have taken government money in the first place unless they planned to pay it back.
haha, welcome to the real world bud, where bad debt occurs
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:11 pm
by Snoopy
Eeece wrote:
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
last a thing a aussie should do is shut the **** up and let the big nations talk
Don't worry, that was the last thing I intended on doing
Let big nations talk.. lol righteo
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:50 pm
by nohunta
LOL Ceo's needed caps on their salaries they dont DESERVE millions of dollars because they fked up their company.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:57 pm
by Gaigemasta
its all a politica stunt to diss america, you know, for the US being such a country, we get shit from everyone. I remember this conversation i had with a brit and he said "damn americans raiding countries for oil" and I was said "look, compared to the UK, we didnt colonize massive areas of land and then enslave the people and sell them, kill them, or use their countries as prson camps or exploit locals for cheap money." we do that on our own turf ^_^ we dont need shitty colonies. America isnt a bad country people, sometimes we may have shitty political leaders but a lot of have good hearts. And the reason why we only sent so little money to the tsunami victims is because our aw prohibits anymore more tax payers moeny to be sent without a proper vote so ..... off russia. We didnt go communism and ..... ourselves our dumbasses, so dont be preaching shit when ur full of it
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:48 am
by Disconn3cted
nohunta wrote:LOL Ceo's needed caps on their salaries they dont DESERVE millions of dollars because they fked up their company.
its not that they deserve it, its the fact that the government is controlling a business which is the problem but this is just my opinion
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:56 am
by Barotix
nohunta wrote:LOL Ceo's needed caps on their salaries they dont DESERVE millions of dollars because they fked up their company.
Who are to say how much they deserve. It is their company. They have the freedom to make profits and keep their profits as long as they don't use the initiation of force to prevent others from doing the same. Now, since they no longer own their companies the government has the right to interfere. Regulations like wage caps are part of nationalization. How you handle your company is your business assuming you follow contracts and don't commit fraud. The problem is nationalization; what I want to know is how setting a wage cap for CEOs helps at all. It feels like more mob mentality classicism bullshit.
Re: [NEWS]Putin warns America about Socialism?
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:11 am
by SoAyame
Eeece wrote:
Snoopy wrote:Last thing Russia should be doing is handing out advice.
last a thing a aussie should do is shut the **** up and let the big nations talk
