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eulogy for Ivan the Terrible...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:15 pm
by BlackFox898
for my ancient history class we have to present a eulogy of someone from the 16th and back, and i got stuck with Ivan the terrible which sucks because he was about as evil and twisted as hitler, perhaps worst. i am suppose to present the eulogy to the class and have to say some good things about him, which is effing hard, and wear something that would resemble clothing from people who knew him at that time period. any ideas?

Re: eulogy for Ivan the Terrible...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:16 pm
by dom
Sounds like a fun project, and looks like you got a good person to work with.

Re: eulogy for Ivan the Terrible...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:20 pm
by BlackFox898
good, just the guy i wanted posting on here, you're good with history, any ideas?

Re: eulogy for Ivan the Terrible...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:30 pm
by dom
Barotix is better with the Russian superstars.

Re: eulogy for Ivan the Terrible...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:32 pm
by Reise
Which guy was it that made beards illegal in Russia? Dude was crazy.

Re: eulogy for Ivan the Terrible...

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:36 pm
by dom
Catherine the great's husband was crazy:

It was discovered that all Peter did at night in bed with Catherine was play with wooden soldiers, miniature cannons and toy fortresses. Peter would make little cannon-firing noises with his mouth and shout orders to the inanimate armies on the bed, beg Catherine to join him, and hurriedly stash the playthings under the sheets whenever members of the court happened by to check on the odd assortment of noises emanating from behind their chamber door. "Often I laughed," Catherine wrote, "but more often still I was exasperated and even made uncomfortable. The whole bed being covered and filled with dolls and toys, some of them quite heavy." The Great Duke took his toy soldiering very seriously. Later in their marriage, Peter executed a large rat in their bedroom for devouring two toy soldiers made of starch. Peter claimed that the rat was clearly guilty according to military law, and that, after one of his dogs broke its back, he had hanged it in public view "for three days, as an example." Catherine, thinking he was joking, burst into hysterics. Peter's face darkened. He was twenty-five.[6]

Re: eulogy for Ivan the Terrible...

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:34 pm
by Kazook
dom wrote:Catherine the great's husband was crazy:

It was discovered that all Peter did at night in bed with Catherine was play with wooden soldiers, miniature cannons and toy fortresses. Peter would make little cannon-firing noises with his mouth and shout orders to the inanimate armies on the bed, beg Catherine to join him, and hurriedly stash the playthings under the sheets whenever members of the court happened by to check on the odd assortment of noises emanating from behind their chamber door. "Often I laughed," Catherine wrote, "but more often still I was exasperated and even made uncomfortable. The whole bed being covered and filled with dolls and toys, some of them quite heavy." The Great Duke took his toy soldiering very seriously. Later in their marriage, Peter executed a large rat in their bedroom for devouring two toy soldiers made of starch. Peter claimed that the rat was clearly guilty according to military law, and that, after one of his dogs broke its back, he had hanged it in public view "for three days, as an example." Catherine, thinking he was joking, burst into hysterics. Peter's face darkened. He was twenty-five.[6]


I lol'd

Re: eulogy for Ivan the Terrible...

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:04 pm
by ImmortalKiller
In all seriousness, he wasn't crazy, he was literally retarded...

The retarded ruler of Russia... consonance!

Re: eulogy for Ivan the Terrible...

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:51 pm
by BlackFox898
we,no he had mental problems, probably from watching uncle, i think it was, kill whole villages.

Re: eulogy for Ivan the Terrible...

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:49 pm
by Squirt
dom wrote:Catherine the great's husband was crazy:

It was discovered that all Peter did at night in bed with Catherine was play with wooden soldiers, miniature cannons and toy fortresses. Peter would make little cannon-firing noises with his mouth and shout orders to the inanimate armies on the bed, beg Catherine to join him, and hurriedly stash the playthings under the sheets whenever members of the court happened by to check on the odd assortment of noises emanating from behind their chamber door. "Often I laughed," Catherine wrote, "but more often still I was exasperated and even made uncomfortable. The whole bed being covered and filled with dolls and toys, some of them quite heavy." The Great Duke took his toy soldiering very seriously. Later in their marriage, Peter executed a large rat in their bedroom for devouring two toy soldiers made of starch. Peter claimed that the rat was clearly guilty according to military law, and that, after one of his dogs broke its back, he had hanged it in public view "for three days, as an example." Catherine, thinking he was joking, burst into hysterics. Peter's face darkened. He was twenty-five.[6]



Holy shit, That guy really had problems >_<
Ivan was the long awaited son of Vasili III, who had divorced his first wife in the 1520s on the grounds that she was barren (he charged her with sorcery and had her forcibly tonsured a nun before marrying Elena Glinskaya, Ivan's mother.) When Ivan was just three years old his father died from a boil and inflammation on his leg which developed into blood poisoning. Ivan was proclaimed the Grand Prince of Moscow at his father’s request. At first, his mother Elena Glinskaya acted as a regent, but she died of what many believe to be assassination via poison[7] when Ivan was merely eight years old. She was replaced as regent by boyars from the Shuisky family until Ivan assumed power in 1544. According to his own letters, Ivan and his younger brother Yuri customarily felt neglected and offended by the mighty boyars from the Shuisky and Belsky families.


Theres a lot of family Drama there. The father died from a boil and killed his first wife cause he thought she did sorcery.
Thats messed up.

Ivan the Terrible at the deathbed of his first and most-beloved wife, Anastasia Romanovna. Ivan married seven more times, sometimes divorcing a wife a week after the marriage.


YOu got a good guy to write about man.

I'm not even doing a project and I find this guys bio interesting