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Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:28 am
by StealMySoda
blog.intego.com wrote:Apple has issued a technical note about Mac antivirus software, and, for the first time, suggests that Macs need such software. The note says: "Apple encourages the widespread use of multiple antivirus utilities so that virus programmers have more than one application to circumvent, thus making the whole virus writing process more difficult." The note then goes on to mention three antivirus programs, with Intego VirusBarrier X5 listed first.

It is worth noting this, since Apple, especially in its recent "Get a Mac" ads, has always publicly tried to ignore the threat of malware to Macs, as well as other security issues. We can only applaud the fact that Apple has chosen to recognize that Macs face security risks and that they require protection.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2550?viewlocale=en_US

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Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:30 am
by Phaidra
Ewwww Mac, I'd rather deal with the 114,000 viruses. :P

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:32 am
by SoAyame
Phaidra wrote:Ewwww Mac, I'd rather deal with the 114,000 viruses. :P

LOL yea but Macs are soo pretty other then that.....

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:55 am
by Reise
They've now gone on to say they are the "greener" choice, touting recycled steel and whatnot.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:52 am
by BlackFox898
meh i could never dig up enough money to buy one of those and what performance would it have?
Select your Mac mini.
it's like $1000 CDN for a mac mini and the best duo core it comes with is 2.0, if i wanna faster one be prepared to fork out another $1000.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:48 am
by Priam
To be fair.

This is only the first time they've been this up-front about it. In general they've always mentioned a time when an Anti-virus kit might come in handy.

So, it's not that much of a big deal.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:09 pm
by StealMySoda
Priam wrote:To be fair.

This is only the first time they've been this up-front about it. In general they've always mentioned a time when an Anti-virus kit might come in handy.

So, it's not that much of a big deal.

But after all their childish mockery of Windows, and now this means apple has just faceplanted.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:28 pm
by Priam
StealMySoda wrote:
Priam wrote:To be fair.

This is only the first time they've been this up-front about it. In general they've always mentioned a time when an Anti-virus kit might come in handy.

So, it's not that much of a big deal.

But after all their childish mockery of Windows, and now this means apple has just faceplanted.


Oh blabla.

Anyone understanding the basics of marketing, and how to make use of your competitors wouldn't say they've faceplanted.

Apple simply took advantage of a time where virusses on macs actually were a non factor, and windows got swamped. get over it.

Times change, apple got more popular, and now hackers started to look beyond microsoft to. You can't influence this as a manufacturer, and can only take advantage of previous times as long as possible.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:35 pm
by Sharp324
Priam wrote:
StealMySoda wrote:
Priam wrote:To be fair.

This is only the first time they've been this up-front about it. In general they've always mentioned a time when an Anti-virus kit might come in handy.

So, it's not that much of a big deal.

But after all their childish mockery of Windows, and now this means apple has just faceplanted.


Oh blabla.

Anyone understanding the basics of marketing, and how to make use of your competitors wouldn't say they've faceplanted.

Apple simply took advantage of a time where virusses on macs actually were a non factor, and windows got swamped. get over it.


Just wanted to say, and im kinda curious. Why do you act like your PMSin' all the time? Your so uptight...

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:23 pm
by pr0klobster
Priam wrote:
StealMySoda wrote:
Priam wrote:To be fair.

This is only the first time they've been this up-front about it. In general they've always mentioned a time when an Anti-virus kit might come in handy.

So, it's not that much of a big deal.

But after all their childish mockery of Windows, and now this means apple has just faceplanted.


Oh blabla.

Anyone understanding the basics of marketing, and how to make use of your competitors wouldn't say they've faceplanted.

Apple simply took advantage of a time where virusses on macs actually were a non factor, and windows got swamped. get over it.

Times change, apple got more popular, and now hackers started to look beyond microsoft to. You can't influence this as a manufacturer, and can only take advantage of previous times as long as possible.


Hey, what are they up to now, 10% or something...from 2006...when it was around 7.5%?

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:30 pm
by XemnasXD
sooner or later, Macs aren't perfect, the only ppl who think they are are the ones sucked in by those commercials...

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:39 pm
by Priam
@Sharp234 you really don't want to see uptight. Cute that you got all that from 'Oh blabla' which more likely shows dissaproval then PMS or being uptight.

@Pr0klobster (spelled right outta my head!), even a 2.5% increase in this market, is from my point of view a pretty large gain.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:07 pm
by pr0klobster
Priam wrote:@Sharp234 you really don't want to see uptight. Cute that you got all that from 'Oh blabla' which more likely shows dissaproval then PMS or being uptight.

@Pr0klobster (spelled right outta my head!), even a 2.5% increase in this market, is from my point of view a pretty large gain.


Well...over the course of two years, slightly less of an increase in my book, but yeah, Apple needs to take what it can get.

Of course Linux hasn't really much market share at all - I think probably a percent or two.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:44 pm
by Mr.Ganji
Priam wrote:@Sharp234 you really don't want to see uptight. Cute that you got all that from 'Oh blabla' which more likely shows dissaproval then PMS or being uptight.


look at this guy...he's so damn tuff and ba, sharp really had it coming! i think we should warn the whole forum that one of the biggest e-penises ive ever seen is waving it around and someone is likely to get hurt around here

ontopic: its apple. its full of sht. just dont buy its grossly overpriced plastic bins and you're good to go...its one of the most fcking overrated products in the computer industry

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:53 pm
by Priam
Yes, my e-penis is very "tuff" and "ba".

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:21 pm
by Avalanche
Priam wrote:Yes, my e-penis is very "tuff" and "ba".

lolerskates gg.

Mac has a good platform, but is overpriced.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:42 pm
by XemnasXD
Priam wrote:Yes, my e-penis is very "tuff" and "ba".


orly....




:wink:

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:24 am
by strangelove
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They've been saying it even before any of the current Macs even existed.. They just happened to update the article recently with newer versions of the AV software. It wasn't some technical note secretly added to the site, just updating an old list of recommended software. Run along.. nothing to see here..

edit: Even though I hate the "Get a Mac" ads, they're fundamentally correct if you look beyond the hyperbole. PCs are (in general) more likely to get infected by a virus than a Mac. Not saying Macs are immune to viruses but the market share is so much smaller that any vulnerability that does break out can be patched rather quickly so infection isn't really widespread, ergo, the chances of being infected are slim to none.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:51 am
by Du De Wei
you all can hate on the macs all you want because their slow overrated etc... but u gotta admit their commercials are nice and organized and simple all apple commercials I seen either come with white or black backgrounds nothing trying to throw out colors trying to give u seizures

and with their iphone commercials it always shows all the applications it can do and at the end still reminds you that its still a phone marketing genious steve jobs can literally sell you garbage for 1000 bucks

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:05 am
by Reise
Fug_Dup wrote:
They've been saying it even before any of the current Macs even existed.. They just happened to update the article recently with newer versions of the AV software. It wasn't some technical note secretly added to the site, just updating an old list of recommended software. Run along.. nothing to see here..

edit: Even though I hate the "Get a Mac" ads, they're fundamentally correct if you look beyond the hyperbole. PCs are (in general) more likely to get infected by a virus than a Mac. Not saying Macs are immune to viruses but the market share is so much smaller that any vulnerability that does break out can be patched rather quickly so infection isn't really widespread, ergo, the chances of being infected are slim to none.[/color]


Still leads you to wonder what kind of people would want you to believe Macs are essentially virus-proof though. Those same people have been selling people the same old shit in different shapes to people for the last 10 years.

Money money money MON-EY!

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:27 am
by Priam
Macs are still atleast 50% (if not more) more virus proof then a general windows system, so imo the commercials still hold up.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:39 pm
by Rainigul
Fug_Dup wrote:
They've been saying it even before any of the current Macs even existed.. They just happened to update the article recently with newer versions of the AV software. It wasn't some technical note secretly added to the site, just updating an old list of recommended software. Run along.. nothing to see here..

edit: Even though I hate the "Get a Mac" ads, they're fundamentally correct if you look beyond the hyperbole. PCs are (in general) more likely to get infected by a virus than a Mac. Not saying Macs are immune to viruses but the market share is so much smaller that any vulnerability that does break out can be patched rather quickly so infection isn't really widespread, ergo, the chances of being infected are slim to none.[/color]


I like how you used the word ergo, that's the first time I've ever seen it used outside of the matrix.

OnT:
Mac's always spouted some crap, some of their points are valid and I'll say they're good, but their price is fuckin' ridiculous.
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That's very unbiased, some of the points they make for mac are rather stupid like mentioning the it has paint, lol (though ms paint is the most badass program I've ever used in my entire life).

Yuppp, macs have always had viruses, but if you own a mac and you're a retard you're about a million percent less likely to get a virus than if you had a pc.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:45 pm
by wootpops
as apple will become more and more mainstream. people will start targetting viruses for them. it has always been a backseat to windows so no one bothered to make viruses for them. mhm.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:11 pm
by SM-Count
pr0klobster wrote:Of course Linux hasn't really much market share at all - I think probably a percent or two.

That's probably because linux is free . . .

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:04 am
by Squirt
Didn't even know there were viruses for Macs.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:17 am
by ImmortalKiller
Squirt wrote:Didn't even know there were viruses for Macs.

Have a mac?

I could send you to some AWESOME web pages...

While you're at it, just download them from my rapidshare...



I won't actually post the mac viruses I have... Someone posted a mac quasi-trojan from another forum I'm on. It's AWESOME for those people who believe mac's are the greatest, because they so eagerly download such software and expect to be fine.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:01 am
by Rainigul
SM-Count wrote:
pr0klobster wrote:Of course Linux hasn't really much market share at all - I think probably a percent or two.

That's probably because linux is free . . .


I am pretty sure you can but linux made computers, but it's alot more popular just to download the OS.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:24 am
by Priam
Just an FYI, apple withdrew the virus recommendations, as they were old and outdated like i said. They did this yesterday.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:15 pm
by Rainigul
Priam wrote:Just an FYI, apple withdrew the virus recommendations, as they were old and outdated like i said. They did this yesterday.


They must have read this thread and they were scared.

Re: Apple Recommends Anti Virus Software

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:06 pm
by StealMySoda
Rainigul wrote:
Priam wrote:Just an FYI, apple withdrew the virus recommendations, as they were old and outdated like i said. They did this yesterday.


They must have read this thread and they were scared.

The Truth :P