World Cup 2010 : South Africa

[xzaz]

O man i saw USA playing football today.. i loughed my shit off XD. They where so bad . Ok they won but there is no tatic no player has realy soccer skills (same as Australia tho) and its just winning on mentality. There is nothing wrong with that, but you not going to make it far. 1/8 its where you quit

[woutR]

^ I do not agree. At all.

[xzaz]

^ I do not agree. At all.

Ga toch weg man, er zit niks voetballends in. Als je tegen een aanvallende ploeg zoals Argentinie of een goed verdedigende ploeg met snelle vleugels zoals Brazilie moet spelen ga je het nooit zo ver schoppen. Dit soort ploegen doen ook helemaal niet mee om te winnen deze ploegen doen mee om te overleven. Je ziet het ook bij Nederland, O we spelen tegen een goed team.. kom laten we verdedigen en hopen op een fout van Nederland.
Nu komen ze er achter dat ze misschien wel niet door gaan naar de volgende ronde en gaan ze met ze alle voetballen als de malloten. In de Poule van Duitsland / Engeland zagen ze dat Duitsland / Engeland punten verloren en toen waren ze opeens helemaal wakker.
Maar kijk die Goals van Amerika, en die van Australie. Dat zijn geen voetballende goals al moet ik toegeven dat ik die weinig heb gezien deze WK. Maar daar wordt je uiteindelijk wel Wereldkampioen mee.

[Skyve]

What xzas meant to say GOOGLE TRANSLATOR HURRR DURR

Get the **** out man, there's nothing in foot ball ends. If you hit an attacking team like Argentina or a good defensive team like Brazil with rapid wing play you never go so far kicking. This kind of teams also do not take these teams do to win it to survive. You see it in the Netherlands, Oh we play against a good team .. Come let us defend and hope for a mistake in the Netherlands. Now, they find out that she might not go to the next round and go with them all the football as idiotic. The Pool of Germany / England saw that Germany / England lost points and then they were suddenly fully awake. But look at those goals of America and of Australia. These are not soccer goals although I must admit that I've seen this little World Cup. But you'll end up with World Champion.

[Jstar1]

whats with the sudden netherlands soccer pride on SRF? netherlands is a soccer power?

[MrJoey]

What in the fuck is wrong with me?

Before the last couple weeks, I didn't like soccer at all. Yet today I was truly sad that I had to go to work at halftime of the USA and England game. I just wanted to see if USA would make it or not. So happy they did.


P.S. xzaz, use English on these forums, and realize this, I don't follow soccer at all usually, yet nearly everywhere I see, people have been saying that America is doing quite well this year as a team.

[Jstar1]

^most of the americans who blow off soccer as a girl sport/pussy sport seem to just say it without actually watching a professional game. Its really sad how americans in general intentionally ignore soccer when the rest of the world enjoys it..how pathetic and arrogant can people be to hide in their little world of football and call everyone else gay.

if soccer is a pussy sport, why is it popular in almost every developed country in the world? Guess that makes all non-americans pussies? god I love my country but some things about it just make me speechless.

[MrJoey]

This World Cup isn't making a good argument for liking the game though. So many dives by players, bad referees during American games, and then there's alsbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

[woutR]

edit: my first part of the post is a response to xzaz's dutch post which is translated in the spoiler

Well I just don't agree. USA just isn't one of the countries that prays for the other team to make mistakes. They're not playing with 5 defenders or anything and they're not only scoring while their opponent makes a mistake.
I don't think you're giving USA half of the credit they deserve. Just because they're probably less skilled than Brazil or Argentina it doesn't mean their entire team sucks.
Also, who cares if they find renewed spirit when they find out they have a good chance of going to the 1/8th finals? Isn't that a good thing?

All I know is that I saw real world cup football in USA vs Algeria. Both teams went for it as hard as they could in a tense all-or-nothing match and played real and exciting football. USA will never be a team that's just glad to be there. And don't forget they were second in last year's confederation cup.

@Jstar1: Netherlands is a consistent top 5 team in the world (in rankings). We just fail putting our top tier teams to good use and we don't really win stuff. Sad but true. Netherlands has a lot of top players at top clubs in Europe. A good 'soccer' (euro's prefer 'football' ) country indeed.

The google translate is very off

translation:

Spoiler!

Get out man, there's no real 'footballing' in [USA]. If [USA] plays against an attacking team like Argentine or a good defensive team with quick wingers like Brazil they're never going to get far. These kind of teams [referring to B-quality teams in general] aren't here to win, they're here to survive. You can see it when you watch the Netherlands, "Oh, we're playing against a good team, let's play defensive and pray the Netherlands makes a mistake" [quote would be from a B-quality team, the Netherlands faced shitty teams that went defensive in the group phase]
Now they [B-teams] find out that they can perhaps advance to the next round and they all start playing like a bunch of lunatics. In Germany's/England's group they [B-teams] saw that Germany/England were dropping points and suddenly the B-teams got spirit to fight for it.
But look at the goals made by USA and Australia. These aren't real 'football' goals, although I have to admit I haven't seen many of those this world cup. But eventually those kind of goals will make you world champion.

That was actually ten times more difficult to translate than I had anticipated. Too much background information that had to be worked into it as well. I think I got it in the end though. It's xzaz's message though so idk if I interpreted it right.

[SM-Count]

Oh come now, you know you were excited to watch USA qualify at 91'. And during knock out it's just gonna get better. (as soon as pansy defensive teams all go home... italy + uruguay, yeah, I'm talking bout you) Keep watching, best is saved for last.

And yeah, english forum, try to not to type essays in another language. The infrequent passes in a different languages doesn't really matter.

[MrJoey]

I don't remember anything about '91, I was only 5 at the time.

[SM-Count]

91 minutes into the game when they scored =]

[woutR]

1991 would be '91, this is 91' as in the 91st minute of the match

[MrJoey]

Oh...

[TheDrop]

O man i saw USA playing football today.. i loughed my shit off XD. They where so bad . Ok they won but there is no tatic no player has realy soccer skills (same as Australia tho) and its just winning on mentality. There is nothing wrong with that, but you not going to make it far. 1/8 its where you quit

what the hell are you talking about. Have you even watched any of USA's games? Surely most of US's players are average individual wise, but they play very wll together as a team, which is why soccer's a team sport. you have teams like england and france who have some of the best players in the world, yet struggle to play well together. and lol @ USA playing defensive comment. the US in this WC have played pretty good passing football (surprisingly). of all the 32 teams in the WC, there are 4 or 5 teams that can realistically win it. so are you saying they should just cut down the # of teams in the WC to 5 because all the other teams are just "survival teams"?

[Jstar1]

This World Cup isn't making a good argument for liking the game though. So many dives by players, bad referees during American games, and then there's alsbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I agree, this world cup got gayed because of those stupid horns plus the shitty refs. But 2006 and 2002 are the world cups that I can clearly remember and both of them were really exciting.

[Mirosuke]

Today's matches were great!

[dom]

Explanation on why American's call Football Soccer, and why it's correct:

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php ... rd-soccer/

[Jstar1]

I don't think europeans are going to care or believe that article, just rage more every time they hear the word "soccer".

[LuxonEmpress]

Explanation on why American's call Football Soccer, and why it's correct:

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php ... rd-soccer/

Whether that's true or not, what still doesn't make much sense to me is to why we Americans call "American Football, 'Football' "... because the only time you touch the ball with your foot is usually while punting, or doing a field goal.

[Tasdik]

^most of the americans who blow off soccer as a girl sport/pussy sport seem to just say it without actually watching a professional game. Its really sad how americans in general intentionally ignore soccer when the rest of the world enjoys it..how pathetic and arrogant can people be to hide in their little world of football and call everyone else gay.

if soccer is a pussy sport, why is it popular in almost every developed country in the world? Guess that makes all non-americans pussies? god I love my country but some things about it just make me speechless.

[MrJoey]

I don't know why you're facepalming that tasdik, he's pretty much correct when it comes to probably 80% of Americans.

[MrTwilliger]

Before the world cup, I knew nothing about soccer. I didn't even know the game had tactics, I admit I was a total soccer noob. But I'm getting interested in soccer after seeing a bit of the world cup, I've had a few people explain tactics with me during the game and it's pretty appealing, like a game of chess in many ways. I wish my timezone was much better though, I'm mostly asleep when the games are on >_>

On another note Australia got eliminated. It was no surprise really, I never expected us to go far. But still, sadtimes

[MrJoey]

Before the world cup, I knew nothing about soccer. I didn't even know the game had tactics, I admit I was a total soccer noob. But I'm getting interested in soccer after seeing a bit of the world cup, I've had a few people explain tactics with me during the game and it's pretty appealing, like a game of chess in many ways. I wish my timezone was much better though, I'm mostly asleep when the games are on >_>

On another note Australia got eliminated. It was no surprise really, I never expected us to go far. But still, sadtimes

Same, except I'm usually at work.

[Skyve]

Before the world cup, I knew nothing about soccer. I didn't even know the game had tactics, I admit I was a total soccer noob. But I'm getting interested in soccer after seeing a bit of the world cup, I've had a few people explain tactics with me during the game and it's pretty appealing, like a game of chess in many ways. I wish my timezone was much better though, I'm mostly asleep when the games are on >_>

On another note Australia got eliminated. It was no surprise really, I never expected us to go far. But still, sadtimes

Same,

Naturally because of my morrocan background,my whole family is hardcore into football. I watched a few FC Barcelona & Real Madrid game with my uncles but never really go interested.Now I started watching the World Cup,know the rules,find it entertaining,etc.

[.curve]

My interest level peaks a bit when I watch some matches, but then dies when I hear

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[Ichimaru420]

Explanation on why American's call Football Soccer, and why it's correct:

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php ... rd-soccer/

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

Explanation on why American's call Football Soccer, and why it's correct:

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php ... rd-soccer/

even if it sounds official, everyone knows what is meant when football is mentioned, 1 term is enough.

As for the American team, it's fun to see an apparent outsider to the sport play just as well or even better than countries who have invested alot more into it.
If football were to reach a higher reputation in the US, i'm sure the team would improve drastically by means of tactics and technique...
(would be nice if their mentality of fairplay stayed though)

[xzaz]

P.S. xzaz, use English on these forums, and realize this, I don't follow soccer at all usually, yet nearly everywhere I see, people have been saying that America is doing quite well this year as a team.

Don't watch FOX
They doing quite well because they had opponents where they can play football like they want to play football. No offence but they only won 1 game and that was against Algeria (#30), even Turkey is in front of them and they are not even on the World Cup, but thats another story.
The other 2 games against UK and Slovania where OK but its a mentality question... and yes you can get far with this but you have to show some real football skills.

[Krevidy]

Italy loose plx. I dont want Holland - Italy.