[NSFW] Poor Pig...

[M3K0S]

@Pretty much everything that mekos posted in this thread: thats pretty farked up tbh

lol dude ive seen and done sooo many things you would think of as terribly disgusting... i take it as sooo fun xD

definitely you have a mental problem if its "fun"

honestly, thats SICK if you consider that to be fun and humourous

not humorous but fun its like thats life man youre gonna see a lot of facked up chet b4 u die i just happened to see it at a young age because of the way my family lives...

[magisuns]

lol dude ive seen and done sooo many things you would think of as terribly disgusting... i take it as sooo fun xD

definitely you have a mental problem if its "fun"

honestly, thats SICK if you consider that to be fun and humourous

not humorous but fun its like thats life man youre gonna see a lot of facked up chet b4 u die i just happened to see it at a young age because of the way my family lives...

yeah so get farked up so u can b all farked up later... way to **** with morals

[M3K0S]

i do have morals... its not like im later im gonna get all crazy and try to do it on real ppl...

like i said wait til you grow up and youre gonna see a lot of disgusting shit...

u might take it the ewwwwwie way or the way i take it...

my guess is u will take it the spoiled white girl way...

EEEEEEEEEK THATS SOOO GROSS EWWWW!!!!! /barf

[vivien]

Some people are just so primitive...

[Draquish]

http://www.meat.org/

[crazyskwrls]

you could get everything u need from vegetables but its really hard, many vitamins like b12 are rare in plants and they are necessary to stay healthy

Do b12 PILLS not exist to you?

do meat not exist to you? i wonder where they got the b12 from?

[Barotix]

What is primitive about killing your own food? Someone has to do it.

[magisuns]

i do have morals... its not like im later im gonna get all crazy and try to do it on real ppl...

like i said wait til you grow up and youre gonna see a lot of disgusting shit...

u might take it the ewwwwwie way or the way i take it...

my guess is u will take it the spoiled white girl way...

EEEEEEEEEK THATS SOOO GROSS EWWWW!!!!! /barf

yeah... i like my morals as they are, NORMAL.

urs seem pretty messed though from ur trail of thought

UHHH and not everyone is going to slaughter animals when they are older

this is 2008

[vivien]

you could get everything u need from vegetables but its really hard, many vitamins like b12 are rare in plants and they are necessary to stay healthy

Do b12 PILLS not exist to you?

do meat not exist to you? i wonder where they got the b12 from?

Lol.. In that kind of logic calcium only comes from milk.

*EDIT: I could go on and on about why killing for food is primitive today... so I will leave that out of the discussion.

[Barotix]

i do have morals... its not like im later im gonna get all crazy and try to do it on real ppl...

like i said wait til you grow up and youre gonna see a lot of disgusting shit...

u might take it the ewwwwwie way or the way i take it...

my guess is u will take it the spoiled white girl way...

EEEEEEEEEK THATS SOOO GROSS EWWWW!!!!! /barf

yeah... i like my morals as they are, 1]NORMAL.

urs seem pretty messed though from ur trail of thought

UHHH and not everyone is going to slaughter animals when they are older

2]this is 2008

1]Wait, so you're saying that your morals are the right ones and his aren't? On what basis can you make that statement? Should everyone follow your moral outlook?

2]Yeah, and?

[magisuns]

1]sure lets not consider animals lives... who needs them they are just food~ lets tease them a bit too b4 we torture them... lets kill bastet's rabbit... its just food... it cant think or feel anything... OH BETTER YET... lets kill it slowly and post a picture of us about to lick it b4 we kill it

2] havent we moved on from that mindset yet? Just shoot it and move on, dont let it suffer. It should not be entertainment

[Reise]

Meat has to die somehow.

Coincidentally you can't properly prepare it without draining the body of blood. If you don't it spoils really quick. And again, coincidentally, cutting off the head is the fastest way to do this. If killing animals like this is inhumane, I doubt it ever will be.

Mankind would've died off before it had a chance to thrive if it never hunted animals. Plants and fruits weren't and still aren't an abundant and wholesome source of nutrients you need if you plan to survive just on them alone. Most "vegans" are familiar with what's nutritious and what's not, so it's strange to see some of you saying meat is just for taste. It's possible you're just idiots.

[Barotix]

1]sure lets not consider animals lives... who needs them they are just food~ lets tease them a bit too b4 we torture them... lets kill bastet's rabbit... its just food... it cant think or feel anything

2] havent we moved on from that mindset yet?

1]And what of human lives? If you're against killing animals then surely you must be against killing any living entity? What makes an animal life more valuable than the life of a plant and why do animals need protection? I doubt a hungry meat eater will think of your "feelings" before killing you. Torture? What torture? Most animals in industrial nations are killed in the quickest way that won't contaminate the meat.

2]Move on from the mindset of survival? Sorry, it's written in our genes.

[magisuns]

1]sure lets not consider animals lives... who needs them they are just food~ lets tease them a bit too b4 we torture them... lets kill bastet's rabbit... its just food... it cant think or feel anything

2] havent we moved on from that mindset yet?

1]And what of human lives? If you're against killing animals then surely you must be against killing any living entity? What makes an animal life more valuable than the life of a plant and why do animals need protection? I doubt a hungry meat eater will think of your "feelings" before killing you. Torture? What torture? Most animals in industrial nations are killed in the quickest way that won't contaminate the meat.

2]Move on from the mindset of survival? Sorry, it's written in our genes.

hmmm i'm sorry but if your aware of ANYTHING that goes on nowadays with that 1] response... i'm sure ur mind would change. oh and an eyeroll to the rest of that

and to that 2]... the exact same as i have said b4

[Reise]

Magisuns, how do you think your Big Mac goes from the field to your plate?

It sure isn't magic and pixie dust.

[magisuns]

Magisuns, how do you think your Big Mac goes from the field to your plate?

It sure isn't magic and pixie dust.

I only eat fries at mcdonalds >_>

[Barotix]

No valid rebuttal? I'm sure you see the conundrum when you think about it, magisun. What makes the life of another animal more valuable than the life of a plant? Some people believe plants have feelings. What of their morals?

[Amelie]

Coincidentally you can't properly prepare it without draining the body of blood. If you don't it spoils really quick. And again, coincidentally, cutting off the head is the fastest way to do this. If killing animals like this is inhumane, I doubt it ever will be.

Mankind would've died off before it had a chance to thrive if it never hunted animals. Plants and fruits weren't and still aren't an abundant and wholesome source of nutrients you need if you plan to survive just on them alone. Most "vegans" are familiar with what's nutritious and what's not, so it's strange to see some of you saying meat is just for taste. It's possible you're just idiots.

/thread

i, myself, am a vegetarian since the day i was born (landmeat allergy, google and find more about it) and i havent tasted meat, chicken, etc, not one bit. I understand mankind HAVE to eat, and i guess those creatures need to get killed. It's not as easy as asking them to die :

"Hi pig, would you please die ? we're hungry you know?
*pig dies just because*>everyone is happy

Meat has to die somehow.

I guess cutting the head off is definitely the quickest way, or maybe shooting at the head but i've heard that shotting will get the meat infected in the place where is shooted at.

It's not like they're stabbing the pig, then laughing, then stabbing it again. They never tortured it at all. If they did that, then that's plainly wrong.

btw that place, TO ME, looks like those kind of places where they kill the animals and then they're transported to proccess the meat.

[vivien]

Mankind would've died off before it had a chance to thrive if it never hunted animals. Plants and fruits weren't and still aren't an abundant and wholesome source of nutrients you need if you plan to survive just on them alone. Most "vegans" are familiar with what's nutritious and what's not, so it's strange to see some of you saying meat is just for taste. It's possible you're just idiots.

When I said meat was for taste I was referring to the dishes accompaned to rice based meals. Diffrent topic entirely that has nothing to do with killing animals.

Yes mankind thrived off animals. I can never convince people like my mom (who grew up on a farm and slaughtered animals regulary) to just go vegan, because they grew up thinkng of animals as 'tools' and food. But to me, in modern days when you are a vegan for a long time.. meat is just not a possibility because there are so many other options.

As a disclaimer, no Im not a peta freak, Im just saying what I think, so dont hurt me.

[Reise]

Some people believe plants have feelings. What of their morals?

I often wonder this lol

[magisuns]

No valid rebuttal? I'm sure you see the conundrum when you think about it, magisun. What makes the life of another animal more valuable than the life of a plant? Some people believe plants have feelings. What of their morals?

and times like this i just otlthe only place where i can actually think

Yeah i do see your point there, but its not like gardeners slowly rip the plant from its roots...tease it a bit..etc~. They do it in a quick way that doesnt allow for pain, they then do the cleansing afterwards. However my view on animals are different because i'm sure that a bunch of other stuff happens. If you read the book "Skinny Bitch"i just dont like meats... i didnt read it to become a vegan... only for its factsit says the process it goes through. Sometimes an animal can remain live up to 5 steps for they finally die. Of course the death only comes after they are dumped in a boiling pool of hot water . An animal could go through the process of getting their eyes ripped out to getting a stick plunged through their anus horizontally unto it comes out the other end, to not getting their head cut off right. This is the present day " how to get the shit outta the animal " way. I at least find that a tad more okay than holding it near your mouth b4 u kill it because its "retarded." Imagine seeing a bunch of dogs get slaughtered like that. What makes them any more different than pigs?

Of course I did challenge his morals, which i do regret. I just believe that people should respect other peoples morals, while still agreeing to their own.sry mekos for saying your morals are wrong... but that doesnt mean i'ma little girl who whines ewww... -.- oh and mekos... not everyone decides to kill animals for a living ~

[vivien]

No valid rebuttal? I'm sure you see the conundrum when you think about it, magisun. What makes the life of another animal more valuable than the life of a plant? Some people believe plants have feelings. What of their morals?

from a faq about vegetarian stance on plants... The absurdity of fruitarians is no valid reason to mock vegetarians.

#43 But how can you prove that plants don't feel pain?
Lest we forget the ultimate point of what follows, let us not forget the central thesis of AR. Simply stated: to the extent other animals share with us certain morally relevant attributes, then to that extent we confer upon them due regard and concern. The two attributes that are arguably relevant are: a) our capacity for pain and suffering, and b) the capacity for being the "subject-of-a-life", i.e., being such that it matters to one whether one's life fares well or ill.
Both of these qualities require the existence of mental states. Also note that in order to speak of "mental states" proper, we would denote, as common usage would dictate, that such states are marked by consciousness. It is insufficient to mark off mental states by only the apparent presence of purposefulness or intentionality since, as we shall see below, many material objects possess purposeful-looking behaviors.
So then, how do we properly attribute the existence of mental states to other animals, or even to ourselves for that matter? We cannot infer the presence of felt pain simply by the presence of a class of behaviors that are functional for an organism's amelioration or avoidance of noxious stimuli. Thermostats obviously react to thermal changes in the environment and respond in a functionally appropriate manner to restore an initial "preferred" state. We would be foolish, however, to attribute to thermostats a capability to "sense" or "feel" some kind of thermal "pain". Even placing quotes around our terms doesn't protect us from absurdity.
Clearly, the behavioral criterion of even functional avoidance/defense reactions is simply not sufficient nor even necessary for the proper attribution of pain as a felt mental state.
Science, including the biological sciences, are committed to the working assumption of scientific materialism or physicalism (see "The Metaphysical Foundations of Modern Science", E. A. Burtt, 1924). We must then start with the generally accepted scientific assumption that matter is the only existent or real primordial constituent of the universe.
Let it be said at the outset that scientific materialism as such does not preclude the existence of emergent or functional qualities like that of mind, consciousness, and feeling (or even, dare I say it, free will), but all such qualities are dependent upon the existence of organized matter. If there is no hardware, there is nothing for the software to run on. If there is no intact, living brain, there is no mind. It should also be said that even contemporary versions of dualism or mind-stuff theories will also make embodiment of mental states dependent on the presence of sufficiently organized matter.
To briefly state the case, cognitive functions like consciousness and mind are seen as emergent properties of sufficiently organized matter. Just as breathing is a function of a complex system of organs referred to as the respiratory system, so too is consciousness a function of the immensely complex information-processing capabilities of a central nervous system. It is possible, in theory, that future computers, given a sufficiently complex and orderly organization of hardware and clever software, could exhibit the requisite emergent qualities. While such Compute rs do not exist, we DO know that certain living organisms on this planet possess the requisite complexity of specialized and highly organized structure for the emergence of mental states.
In theory, plants could possess a mental state like pain, but if, and only if, there were a requisite complexity of organized plant tissue that could serve to instantiate the higher order mental states of consciousness and felt pain.
There is no morphological evidence that such a complexity of tissue exists in plants. Plants lack the specialized structures required for emergence of mental states. This is not to say that they cannot exhibit complex reactions, but we are simply over-interpreting such reactions if we designate them as "felt pain".
With respect to all mammals, birds, and reptiles, we know that they possess a sufficiently complex neural structure to enable felt pain plus an evolutionary need for such consciously felt states. They possess complex and specialized sense organs, they possess complex and specialized structures for processing information and for centrally orchestrating appropriate behaviors in accordance with mental representations, integrations, and reorganizations of that information. The proper attribution of felt pain in these animals is well justified. It is not for plants, by any stretch of the imagination. --TA
The absurdity (and often disingenuity) of the plant-pain promoters can be easily exposed by asking them the following two questions:
1) Do you agree that animals like dogs and cats should receive pain-killing drugs prior to surgery?
2) Do you believe that plants should receive pain-killing drugs prior to pruning? --DG

[Barotix]

Most of the time they make it as quick and painless as possible.

from a faq about vegetarian stance on plants... The absurdity of fruitarians is no valid reason to mock vegetarians.

Well, it was because he questioned someone's morals and asserted that his were better. Meh, thing of the past.

Carry on with the feast!

[magisuns]

so i herd u liek mudpigz
Why did this talk make me wanna try a hamburger -.-

[FireVortex]

OMG

Why did they kill it like that.....Making the pig suffer so much......

[[SD]Master_Wong]

the pig didnt suffer it was dead before the saw got half way though its neck whats left was nerv spasms

[XemnasXD]

just because its necessary process doesn't mean it should be turned into a GIF and posted on a game forum. Taking a shit is a necessary process but i wouldn't want to see a GIF of that either. Im not going to go all vegetarian here i just hand made 50+ meatballs and am slowly falling in love with the smell of raw beef but that doesn't mean i want to watch some guys get a chainsaw and saw a pigs head off nor do i think its appropriate for these forums...more of a 4chan sort of thing...

[theblindarcher]

WOAH crazy but awesome but sad but AWESOME

[M3K0S]

thx for backing me up baro... sry for not posting i was in math class...

anyways dude just because u think u have the right morals it does not justify that is another peoples mind about their morals.

so farking what if its 2008 in the place where we killed the animals was a very poor ranch in mexico where you breed your own food or you plant your vegetables... they cant afford the technology that we have over here the best technology my grandpas ranch has is that shotgun you saw on my first pic... it might be 2008 technically, but there its like the early 20th century...

u gotta remember not everyone lives up to ur standards like you not realizing what happens to animals b4 they get on ur plate... if you dont like that u can be a vegan ******...

EDIT: OMG i feel like im gonna get this topic locked lol

[vivien]

^Imo this topic should already be locked... I doubt other shock topics about goatse, tubgirl and the like would be allowed lol. Or are they? o.@