Do you think George W. Bush is a leader?

[dom]

^that was so uncalled for.

Your life is uncalled for.

Stallowned!!@!#

[redneck]

^that was so uncalled for.

Your life is uncalled for.

lmao, I would say "Stallowned!!@!#" But then i would feel lame... lol

we need the picture...where's PB and J

[Stallowned]

^that was so uncalled for.

Your life is uncalled for.

lmao, I would say "Stallowned!!@!#" But then i would feel lame... lol

we need the picture...where's PB and J

I'll fill in for him..

[Silkroad]

[redneck]

^that was so uncalled for.

Your life is uncalled for.

lmao, I would say "Stallowned!!@!#" But then i would feel lame... lol

we need the picture...where's PB and J

I'll fill in for him..

You just have to love his shirt...

[PB_and_J]

^that was so uncalled for.

Your life is uncalled for.

lmao, I would say "Stallowned!!@!#" But then i would feel lame... lol

we need the picture...where's PB and J

I'll fill in for him..

Sorry... first time checking this thread...

[Vindicator]

i george bush /sarcasm



i just hate people who hate him without really knowing why... they just jump onto the bandwagon, like little dumbasses.... pardon my french

exactly. I disagree with the guy a lot, but its annoying when people are like "omg bush is so Farking terrible cuz uh...he is...and the uh..iraq war...is uh ya bad....and ya i dont like bush"

I dont agree with his policies, which i think i more than clearly showed understanding for this topic, but its not like bush has had the easiest of presidencies to deal with, not that it makes it right or anything.

[Stallowned]

i george bush /sarcasm



i just hate people who hate him without really knowing why... they just jump onto the bandwagon, like little dumbasses.... pardon my french

exactly. I disagree with the guy a lot, but its annoying when people are like "omg bush is so Farking terrible cuz uh...he is...and the uh..iraq war...is uh ya bad....and ya i dont like bush"

I dont agree with his policies, which i think i more than clearly showed understanding for this topic, but its not like bush has had the easiest of presidencies to deal with, not that it makes it right or anything.

Remins me of one of my teachers who was making fun of people who have no idea how the system works, he was like (in a forced redneck accent) "yeah my traffic light dun went out and I called Goerge Bush to fix it" or something like that, don't remember exactly but it was funny.

[XuChu]

Bush is great! Look at all the fuel he got you guys.

[XemnasXD]

Hmm, Bush is a leader under truely exceptional situations. When he became President, he had a plan for America. The economy was good, approval rating was good, no one really had a huge problem with him. Then, September 11, 2001, the World Trade Centers again were the target of a terrorist attack. This time, it was a sucess, and thousands of people died. Bush did EXACTLY what needed to be done. EXACTLY what a leader needed to do.

He stood up, embraced the american people and went to NY. At the exact moment our country needed a leader the most, Bush was there. Instead of running to camp david and hiding, he dared the terrorists to **** with him again. He declared war, America was fully behind him. Approval ratings that were already good sky rocketed. The economy soared, and nationalism was at a peak.

It is unfortunate what follows. The media in its infinite degregation to the United States single handedly destroyed Bush, the war, and america. Everyday our loses were proclaimed across the interlink, our victories only whispered. Approval rating began to drop, the economy slumped.

I DO NOT agree with Bush on a LOT of things. But god dammit, he was there for us when we needed him, and that is much more than anyone here on these forums can even hope to say, think or even dream. A presidency under extreme and crucial circumstances always gets beef. Look at the Lindon B Johnson presidency. The man did wonders for America, and had it not been for the Vietnam war, he would of undoubted become the best president hence far. But of course the media went to vietnam, destroyed the war, and LBJ.

No, bush may not be doing the best of jobs right now. But hes a leader, Americas leader, and an Americans loyalty is to their country, not the president.

Again, i DO NOT agree with bush on a LOT of stuff, but could you do any better in his situation? I know not.

GWB's approval rating wasn't that high from the start. He made the economy worse and allowed tax breaks for the rich while raising taxes for the poor. He was also on vacation when 9/11 started and instead of leading the country to feel safer and more secure his gov't only frightened the american public even more and slowly stripped away the rights granted to us by The Constitution. Did i miss anything. Oh yeah he makes Reise cereal soggy.

Theres so much BS in that statement you made i can only believe you haven't picked up a newspaper or a magazine in the last 7 years....maybe you've just been watching FOX news to much i dunno but next time at least try to get your facts straight....

wow, as usual you come into a topic throwing flaming shit everywhere, but this takes the cake. Not only have you shown a complete lack of comprehension of the world and politics and general understanding, but you have the audacity to say MY facts are not straight. Bush was on vacation? He was at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota FL, a trip that had planned since August to visit the school and students. He was informed during that time of the events and made a public statement shortly after.

Bushes approval prior to 9/11 according to Gallup polls were around 65%. After 9/11, Bush held Gallup's highest approval poll ever, in Gallup History 92%.

The U.S's GDP: (Gross Domestic Product) (since you already showed your level of ability in comprehending things, GDP is the broadest quantitative measure of a nation's total economic activity. It includes Personal consumptions, Government Expenditures, Investment Spending, and Net Exports.) Now that you (I hope) have some kind of a clue...The U.S. GDP has risen from 2000-2005, starting at $9.8 trillion and ending at $12Trillion. GDP has an ebb and flow to it for obvious reasons that the factors are always varying. Since then the Economy has had a trend of little growth. The economy is not plunging, but it certainly is not growing at a rate it should be. The economy doesn't even meet the requirements to be classified a recession yet. Obviously there are very prudent and ineffectual economic exercises by Bush.

Did you miss anything? You missed just about everything. You seem to think I'm a Bush supporter. Pull your head out of your ass, learn some facts, then come back and try to have some intelligent conversation in lieu of spouting your abhorrence and gall all over.

O ya, you missed one more thing. The point of the topic. Bush is a leader, no one ever said you had to like him.

*cracks knuckles*

Ok Vin im about to tear apart that whole paragraph and shove it up Doms ego-infested a** if theres any room left i'll shove you there too. Ready. Lets begin.

The U.S's GDP: (Gross Domestic Product) (since you already showed your level of ability in comprehending things, GDP is the broadest quantitative measure of a nation's total economic activity. It includes Personal consumptions, Government Expenditures, Investment Spending, and Net Exports.) Now that you (I hope) have some kind of a clue...The U.S. GDP has risen from 2000-2005, starting at $9.8 trillion and ending at $12Trillion. GDP has an ebb and flow to it for obvious reasons that the factors are always varying. Since then the Economy has had a trend of little growth. The economy is not plunging, but it certainly is not growing at a rate it should be. The economy doesn't even meet the requirements to be classified a recession yet. Obviously there are very prudent and ineffectual economic exercises by Bush.

You clearly don't understand the GDP and the fact thats its not the only factor in measuring a nations economic growth. The GDP of a country is defined as the total market value of all final goods and services produced within a country in a given period of time (usually a calendar year). Since you don't understand it that basically means the GDP is the amount of money the country has spent and refers more to the countries buying/spending power than anything in other words how much money a country has produced to throw around. Now you were right the GDP has risen in recent years but once you factor in DEBT it doesn't seem like such a big deal because while all the money earned by the US (GDP) was 13 trillion in 2007(going up) the External debt meaning the Debt our country owes to other countries was about 12 trillion dollars. So as you can see most economist would see that as a bad thing since we're barely beating our debt. Not to mention that the GDP aside from a few things is an extremely poor and stupid way to measure a countries economic situation. Any good economist would easily be able to punch at least 10 holes in the system if some idiot(you) were to try and use that to measure the economic situation of a country. Im not even going to go further into his tax reform which only worsened the economic situation of most of America.

Bushes approval prior to 9/11 according to Gallup polls were around 65%. After 9/11, Bush held Gallup's highest approval poll ever, in Gallup History 92%.

Bushes first term approval ratings fluctuated between 48% and 63% prior 9/11. Like i said they weren't that high. Nice job on your exaggerations. If i took what you said seriously it would've meant his constantly had a 65% approval rating from the day he took office . And no shit his approval ratings skyrocketed after 9/11. The country was angry and wanted revenge and he was going to give it to them. The US Gov't used the same tactics in WWII when the goaded the Japanese into attacking so they could enter the war with the support of the American ppl.

Not only have you shown a complete lack of comprehension of the world and politics and general understanding, but you have the audacity to say MY facts are not straight. Bush was on vacation? He was at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota FL, a trip that had planned since August to visit the school and students. He was informed during that time of the events and made a public statement shortly after.

Your right im sorry bush was reading to kids at Florida when he heard about the first plane hitting. Then he kept on reading until he heard about the second plane hitting. Then he kept reading for a bit more took some pictures and then decide to do something. Doesn't sound like a leader who was concerned about the state of the American ppl to me. It sounds like someone who largely wasn't bothered by the situation and felt it was under control, now why would he act like that. And don't say it was to keep ppl calm and not cause a panic cause thats just what he's been doing ever since pumping the media full of his fear propaganda.

Like i said get YOUR facts straight next time and stop listening to FOX news so much. Then maybe it wouldn't have been so easy to blow apart everything you said. And for the record

Sadly he is a leader

I said that on the 2nd page, you were too busy going down on old GWB to notice.....now did i miss anything

[Reise]

Aw Xem you really had me thinking you were gonna school Vindicator. My expectations were definitely not met!

[XemnasXD]

Hmm, Bush is a leader under truely exceptional situations. When he became President, he had a plan for America. The economy was good, approval rating was good, no one really had a huge problem with him. Then, September 11, 2001, the World Trade Centers again were the target of a terrorist attack. This time, it was a sucess, and thousands of people died. Bush did EXACTLY what needed to be done. EXACTLY what a leader needed to do.

He stood up, embraced the american people and went to NY. At the exact moment our country needed a leader the most, Bush was there. Instead of running to camp david and hiding, he dared the terrorists to **** with him again. He declared war, America was fully behind him. Approval ratings that were already good sky rocketed. The economy soared, and nationalism was at a peak.

It is unfortunate what follows. The media in its infinite degregation to the United States single handedly destroyed Bush, the war, and america. Everyday our loses were proclaimed across the interlink, our victories only whispered. Approval rating began to drop, the economy slumped.

I DO NOT agree with Bush on a LOT of things. But god dammit, he was there for us when we needed him, and that is much more than anyone here on these forums can even hope to say, think or even dream. A presidency under extreme and crucial circumstances always gets beef. Look at the Lindon B Johnson presidency. The man did wonders for America, and had it not been for the Vietnam war, he would of undoubted become the best president hence far. But of course the media went to vietnam, destroyed the war, and LBJ.

No, bush may not be doing the best of jobs right now. But hes a leader, Americas leader, and an Americans loyalty is to their country, not the president.

Again, i DO NOT agree with bush on a LOT of stuff, but could you do any better in his situation? I know not.

GWB's approval rating wasn't that high from the start. He made the economy worse and allowed tax breaks for the rich while raising taxes for the poor. He was also on vacation when 9/11 started and instead of leading the country to feel safer and more secure his gov't only frightened the american public even more and slowly stripped away the rights granted to us by The Constitution. Did i miss anything. Oh yeah he makes Reise cereal soggy.

Theres so much BS in that statement you made i can only believe you haven't picked up a newspaper or a magazine in the last 7 years....maybe you've just been watching FOX news to much i dunno but next time at least try to get your facts straight....

wow, as usual you come into a topic throwing flaming shit everywhere, but this takes the cake. Not only have you shown a complete lack of comprehension of the world and politics and general understanding, but you have the audacity to say MY facts are not straight. Bush was on vacation? He was at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota FL, a trip that had planned since August to visit the school and students. He was informed during that time of the events and made a public statement shortly after.

Bushes approval prior to 9/11 according to Gallup polls were around 65%. After 9/11, Bush held Gallup's highest approval poll ever, in Gallup History 92%.

The U.S's GDP: (Gross Domestic Product) (since you already showed your level of ability in comprehending things, GDP is the broadest quantitative measure of a nation's total economic activity. It includes Personal consumptions, Government Expenditures, Investment Spending, and Net Exports.) Now that you (I hope) have some kind of a clue...The U.S. GDP has risen from 2000-2005, starting at $9.8 trillion and ending at $12Trillion. GDP has an ebb and flow to it for obvious reasons that the factors are always varying. Since then the Economy has had a trend of little growth. The economy is not plunging, but it certainly is not growing at a rate it should be. The economy doesn't even meet the requirements to be classified a recession yet. Obviously there are very prudent and ineffectual economic exercises by Bush.

Did you miss anything? You missed just about everything. You seem to think I'm a Bush supporter. Pull your head out of your ass, learn some facts, then come back and try to have some intelligent conversation in lieu of spouting your abhorrence and gall all over.

O ya, you missed one more thing. The point of the topic. Bush is a leader, no one ever said you had to like him.

*cracks knuckles*

Ok Vin im about to tear apart that whole paragraph and shove it up Doms ego-infested a** if theres any room left i'll shove you there too. Ready. Lets begin.

The U.S's GDP: (Gross Domestic Product) (since you already showed your level of ability in comprehending things, GDP is the broadest quantitative measure of a nation's total economic activity. It includes Personal consumptions, Government Expenditures, Investment Spending, and Net Exports.) Now that you (I hope) have some kind of a clue...The U.S. GDP has risen from 2000-2005, starting at $9.8 trillion and ending at $12Trillion. GDP has an ebb and flow to it for obvious reasons that the factors are always varying. Since then the Economy has had a trend of little growth. The economy is not plunging, but it certainly is not growing at a rate it should be. The economy doesn't even meet the requirements to be classified a recession yet. Obviously there are very prudent and ineffectual economic exercises by Bush.

You clearly don't understand the GDP and the fact thats its not the only factor in measuring a nations economic growth. The GDP of a country is defined as the total market value of all final goods and services produced within a country in a given period of time (usually a calendar year). Since you don't understand it that basically means the GDP is the amount of money the country has spent and refers more to the countries buying/spending power than anything in other words how much money a country has produced to throw around. Now you were right the GDP has risen in recent years but once you factor in DEBT it doesn't seem like such a big deal because while all the money earned by the US (GDP) was 13 trillion in 2007(going up) the External debt meaning the Debt our country owes to other countries was about 12 trillion dollars. So as you can see most economist would see that as a bad thing since we're barely beating our debt. Not to mention that the GDP aside from a few things is an extremely poor and stupid way to measure a countries economic situation. Any good economist would easily be able to punch at least 10 holes in the system if some idiot(you) were to try and use that to measure the economic situation of a country. Im not even going to go further into his tax reform which only worsened the economic situation of most of America.

Bushes approval prior to 9/11 according to Gallup polls were around 65%. After 9/11, Bush held Gallup's highest approval poll ever, in Gallup History 92%.

Bushes first term approval ratings fluctuated between 48% and 63% prior 9/11. Like i said they weren't that high. Nice job on your exaggerations. If i took what you said seriously it would've meant his constantly had a 65% approval rating from the day he took office . And no shit his approval ratings skyrocketed after 9/11. The country was angry and wanted revenge and he was going to give it to them. The US Gov't used the same tactics in WWII when the goaded the Japanese into attacking so they could enter the war with the support of the American ppl. Whats his approval rating now? and for the last 8 months or so? hmmm your a bit mum on those facts, i wonder why?

Not only have you shown a complete lack of comprehension of the world and politics and general understanding, but you have the audacity to say MY facts are not straight. Bush was on vacation? He was at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota FL, a trip that had planned since August to visit the school and students. He was informed during that time of the events and made a public statement shortly after.

Your right im sorry bush was reading to kids at Florida when he heard about the first plane hitting. Then he kept on reading until he heard about the second plane hitting. Then he kept reading for a bit more took some pictures and then decide to do something. Doesn't sound like a leader who was concerned about the state of the American ppl to me. It sounds like someone who largely wasn't bothered by the situation and felt it was under control, now why would he act like that. And don't say it was to keep ppl calm and not cause a panic cause thats just what he's been doing ever since pumping the media full of his fear propaganda.

Like i said get YOUR facts straight next time and stop listening to FOX news so much. Then maybe it wouldn't have been so easy to blow apart everything you said. And for the record

Sadly he is a leader

I said that on the 2nd page, you were to bus going down on old GWB to notice.....now did i miss anything

[dom]

Aw Xem you really had me thinking you were gonna school Vindicator. My expectations were definitely not met!

+1

It's like a cess pool of commonly quoted michael more movie lines, grade 8 citizenship class, and the default facts that bandwagon hoppers state when trying to justify their stance.

[XemnasXD]

onoz double post!

[Reise]

Hahah how the hell did you manage that?

[XemnasXD]

my Parkinsons disease kicked in and i just went nuts clicking stuff left and right

[Foilin]

Aw Xem you really had me thinking you were gonna school Vindicator. My expectations were definitely not met!

+1

It's like a cess pool of commonly quoted michael more movie lines, grade 8 citizenship class, and the default facts that bandwagon hoppers state when trying to justify their stance.

And Wikipedia.com

[XemnasXD]

Aw Xem you really had me thinking you were gonna school Vindicator. My expectations were definitely not met!

+1

It's like a cess pool of commonly quoted michael more movie lines, grade 8 citizenship class, and the default facts that bandwagon hoppers state when trying to justify their stance.

And Wikipedia.com

it was mostly google actually...its my friend....

@dom *yawn* you can complain about what i posted but you can't deny it, your losing your touch...

[Redskin350]

didnt know he was reading to the kids I thought the kids were reading to him lolz

[Silver0]

http://joox.net/cat/2/id/1901720
Nuff said **** this country iam investing in getting the **** out of here

[Priam]

Carefull, George Bush might be watching.

[Crumpets]

lulz @ thread.

A simple yes / no would of been sufficient to the OP lol.

[Silver0]

http://joox.net/cat/2/id/1901720
Nuff said **** this country iam investing in getting the **** out of here

[Jex]

monkey fight in the zoo?

[TOloseGT]

GWB is a likeable guy. a good leader? no. he's average. he would have done what many other average leaders in his situation would have done as well. he just had extraordinary situations thrown at him, and that's what makes him stand out.

hitler, mao, pericles, all great leaders.

[Foilin]

http://joox.net/cat/2/id/1901720
Nuff said **** this country iam investing in getting the **** out of here

Lol when my dad was in the hospital having Gal bladder issues, one of his nurses was from canada. He said the Health Care System was corrupt and you went to the doctor the govmnt. said you could, here in the USA we can pick and choose who we go too and if we need a specialist we can go to him, at our own cost but we get the right treatment... the grass is ALWAYS Greener till you get there... Dom, i know you're canadian, any comment on how the healthcare system works?

@ToLoseGT I agree with you 100%

MMore is a clown

[XemnasXD]

the grass is always greener until you lose your fingers and can only afford to have 1 repaired.....or when our infant mortality rate is higher than Cuba...or when you know other countries have free health care (besides Canada) and it comes out of their taxes meanwhile we get taxed almost just as much as they do and no free healthcare.....

Im with Silver0 after i pay way to much out the ass for my college education im getting the hell out of here....

[Swindler]

nope..

[Vindicator]

Hmm, Bush is a leader under truely exceptional situations. When he became President, he had a plan for America. The economy was good, approval rating was good, no one really had a huge problem with him. Then, September 11, 2001, the World Trade Centers again were the target of a terrorist attack. This time, it was a sucess, and thousands of people died. Bush did EXACTLY what needed to be done. EXACTLY what a leader needed to do.

He stood up, embraced the american people and went to NY. At the exact moment our country needed a leader the most, Bush was there. Instead of running to camp david and hiding, he dared the terrorists to **** with him again. He declared war, America was fully behind him. Approval ratings that were already good sky rocketed. The economy soared, and nationalism was at a peak.

It is unfortunate what follows. The media in its infinite degregation to the United States single handedly destroyed Bush, the war, and america. Everyday our loses were proclaimed across the interlink, our victories only whispered. Approval rating began to drop, the economy slumped.

I DO NOT agree with Bush on a LOT of things. But god dammit, he was there for us when we needed him, and that is much more than anyone here on these forums can even hope to say, think or even dream. A presidency under extreme and crucial circumstances always gets beef. Look at the Lindon B Johnson presidency. The man did wonders for America, and had it not been for the Vietnam war, he would of undoubted become the best president hence far. But of course the media went to vietnam, destroyed the war, and LBJ.

No, bush may not be doing the best of jobs right now. But hes a leader, Americas leader, and an Americans loyalty is to their country, not the president.

Again, i DO NOT agree with bush on a LOT of stuff, but could you do any better in his situation? I know not.

GWB's approval rating wasn't that high from the start. He made the economy worse and allowed tax breaks for the rich while raising taxes for the poor. He was also on vacation when 9/11 started and instead of leading the country to feel safer and more secure his gov't only frightened the american public even more and slowly stripped away the rights granted to us by The Constitution. Did i miss anything. Oh yeah he makes Reise cereal soggy.

Theres so much BS in that statement you made i can only believe you haven't picked up a newspaper or a magazine in the last 7 years....maybe you've just been watching FOX news to much i dunno but next time at least try to get your facts straight....

wow, as usual you come into a topic throwing flaming shit everywhere, but this takes the cake. Not only have you shown a complete lack of comprehension of the world and politics and general understanding, but you have the audacity to say MY facts are not straight. Bush was on vacation? He was at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota FL, a trip that had planned since August to visit the school and students. He was informed during that time of the events and made a public statement shortly after.

Bushes approval prior to 9/11 according to Gallup polls were around 65%. After 9/11, Bush held Gallup's highest approval poll ever, in Gallup History 92%.

The U.S's GDP: (Gross Domestic Product) (since you already showed your level of ability in comprehending things, GDP is the broadest quantitative measure of a nation's total economic activity. It includes Personal consumptions, Government Expenditures, Investment Spending, and Net Exports.) Now that you (I hope) have some kind of a clue...The U.S. GDP has risen from 2000-2005, starting at $9.8 trillion and ending at $12Trillion. GDP has an ebb and flow to it for obvious reasons that the factors are always varying. Since then the Economy has had a trend of little growth. The economy is not plunging, but it certainly is not growing at a rate it should be. The economy doesn't even meet the requirements to be classified a recession yet. Obviously there are very prudent and ineffectual economic exercises by Bush.

Did you miss anything? You missed just about everything. You seem to think I'm a Bush supporter. Pull your head out of your ass, learn some facts, then come back and try to have some intelligent conversation in lieu of spouting your abhorrence and gall all over.

O ya, you missed one more thing. The point of the topic. Bush is a leader, no one ever said you had to like him.

*cracks knuckles*

Ok Vin im about to tear apart that whole paragraph and shove it up Doms ego-infested a** if theres any room left i'll shove you there too. Ready. Lets begin.

The U.S's GDP: (Gross Domestic Product) (since you already showed your level of ability in comprehending things, GDP is the broadest quantitative measure of a nation's total economic activity. It includes Personal consumptions, Government Expenditures, Investment Spending, and Net Exports.) Now that you (I hope) have some kind of a clue...The U.S. GDP has risen from 2000-2005, starting at $9.8 trillion and ending at $12Trillion. GDP has an ebb and flow to it for obvious reasons that the factors are always varying. Since then the Economy has had a trend of little growth. The economy is not plunging, but it certainly is not growing at a rate it should be. The economy doesn't even meet the requirements to be classified a recession yet. Obviously there are very prudent and ineffectual economic exercises by Bush.

You clearly don't understand the GDP and the fact thats its not the only factor in measuring a nations economic growth. The GDP of a country is defined as the total market value of all final goods and services produced within a country in a given period of time (usually a calendar year). Since you don't understand it that basically means the GDP is the amount of money the country has spent and refers more to the countries buying/spending power than anything in other words how much money a country has produced to throw around. Now you were right the GDP has risen in recent years but once you factor in DEBT it doesn't seem like such a big deal because while all the money earned by the US (GDP) was 13 trillion in 2007(going up) the External debt meaning the Debt our country owes to other countries was about 12 trillion dollars. So as you can see most economist would see that as a bad thing since we're barely beating our debt. Not to mention that the GDP aside from a few things is an extremely poor and stupid way to measure a countries economic situation. Any good economist would easily be able to punch at least 10 holes in the system if some idiot(you) were to try and use that to measure the economic situation of a country. Im not even going to go further into his tax reform which only worsened the economic situation of most of America.

Bushes approval prior to 9/11 according to Gallup polls were around 65%. After 9/11, Bush held Gallup's highest approval poll ever, in Gallup History 92%.

Bushes first term approval ratings fluctuated between 48% and 63% prior 9/11. Like i said they weren't that high. Nice job on your exaggerations. If i took what you said seriously it would've meant his constantly had a 65% approval rating from the day he took office . And no shit his approval ratings skyrocketed after 9/11. The country was angry and wanted revenge and he was going to give it to them. The US Gov't used the same tactics in WWII when the goaded the Japanese into attacking so they could enter the war with the support of the American ppl. Whats his approval rating now? and for the last 8 months or so? hmmm your a bit mum on those facts, i wonder why?

Not only have you shown a complete lack of comprehension of the world and politics and general understanding, but you have the audacity to say MY facts are not straight. Bush was on vacation? He was at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota FL, a trip that had planned since August to visit the school and students. He was informed during that time of the events and made a public statement shortly after.

Your right im sorry bush was reading to kids at Florida when he heard about the first plane hitting. Then he kept on reading until he heard about the second plane hitting. Then he kept reading for a bit more took some pictures and then decide to do something. Doesn't sound like a leader who was concerned about the state of the American ppl to me. It sounds like someone who largely wasn't bothered by the situation and felt it was under control, now why would he act like that. And don't say it was to keep ppl calm and not cause a panic cause thats just what he's been doing ever since pumping the media full of his fear propaganda.

Like i said get YOUR facts straight next time and stop listening to FOX news so much. Then maybe it wouldn't have been so easy to blow apart everything you said. And for the record

Sadly he is a leader

I said that on the 2nd page, you were to bus going down on old GWB to notice.....now did i miss anything

Aw Xem you really had me thinking you were gonna school Vindicator. My expectations were definitely not met!

Same here. I left the forum roughly 14 hours ago, slept went to classes, did some stuff, came home. To be honest, i was excited thinking, after that Xen's gotta have something. It took him a while to post, this is gona be freaking great. Im gona get into a good discussion about this topic. Then I read it and made a because all i got was my exact points spewed back to me but twisted into the Bush conspiracy "he planned 9/11 its his fault" bs. He once again feels the need to disprove my "full support" for Bush despite clearly stating several times my dislike for several aspects of the topics. A monkey could of gotten that part, clearly his family missed a few important evolutionary stages.

rofled at the knuckle cracks, tough guy swings! he misses! and hes out.

OK Xen, first of all, don't even try to teach me about economics. GDP figures suffice in this instance because that alone disproves your "economic disaster" theory. I know way better than you ever can that the economy is not in the best of shapes. Dont repeat my paragraph and change some words to fit your means...

The approval ratings, are provided by Gallup there hot-shot. Gallup, since you clearly lack the intellectual capacity to either read that it was a Gallup poll, or to understand what it is, is one of the better poll takers. They provide a good sample population and with effective statistics use can accurately draw a picture on pollings. They eliminate bias much more effectively than most other polls. If your going to go on a tangent about polls, i can give you poll results showing bushes approval sub (thats below FYI) 10% and exceeding 70% at any given time. Granted they have almost no legitimacy. Hence the reason i supply the more widely trusted, effect, Gallup polls.

I love how you insist I watch FOX news all the time, when in fact I can easily say I have never blatantly watched fox news. I get my news and information from a myriad of sources and view points, then draw my own conclusions, unlike you who has this "o poor me" mentality and eat your left-wing conspiracy bullshit every day for breakfast. Get some information from different angles and think for yourself. People here think Bush is a puppet...I say your even more of a puppet to the media.

And yes...AGAIN...you missed.

*waits for Xem to press the quote button and spew more shit*
Do not disappoint us bud, we're waiting in deep anticipation. Deliver it straight home this time, or do not deliver at all.

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he's a puppet

U r %100 perc. right.Some secret groups(Big companies) r rulling this world and goverments r their puppets.Bush is the leader of puppet group.