I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon

[.curve]

If you would then thats a shame. IMO thats a weakness. I'm stronger than that. I dont have live a lie so you can feel good about yourself, your not worth lying to TBH. Being gay is far from a choice. Choosing whether to act on those feelings a matter of self-respect. Every gay person has the option of living their life according to the rules of people like you. Some gays even marry and have kids and families. It doesn't work out because in the end thats not who they are. People shouldn't have to step on glass over an issue like this and you are not smart enough or worth enough to make them do so. IMO you are just a meaningless face in a meaningless crowd trying to bring someone else down because they don't conform to YOUR ideas. What would you do if the world declared that your precious scremo music was rubbish and banned it from the market. You'd fight it i hope, if you have any sense of integrity you would. You'd fight for your right to listen to what you want because its not hurting anyone and its none of their business. Its what you like and thats all that should matter.

Its not a choice to be gay. Whether you choose to act on it or live a lie is up to you but i could never live a lie. I would never pretend for a second that i wasn't black because i love being black. Thats who i am and im proud of it. Im not going to pretend im something im not just so you can feel better. I'd rather see the whole world burned to ashes....

Now you're imposing your ideals here. Saying that to not choose to be gay is living a lie and not being true to yourself blah blah blah.

The world has decided my screamo music is rubbish. Hence the reason it's not played all over the radio and loved by teeny bopper girls everywhere.

[XemnasXD]

IF you are gay and you choose to not be gay then you are living a lie. That would be what people call a fact. Its simple logic, you don;t even have to connect dots, its right there for you.

[.curve]

IF you are gay and you choose to not be gay then you are living a lie. That would be what people call a fact. Its simple logic, you don;t even have to connect dots, its right there for you.

Tell me, what says you are gay? Let's go with my chemical reaction theory.

The chemical reaction gives you the tendency to be gay. You can ignore that and live a straight life.

[strangelove]

The chemical reaction gives you the tendency to be gay. You can ignore that and live a straight life.

I'm still puzzled as to what makes you so sure it works that way, or why you think it does. >_> Out of curiosity, what other choice are you comparing sexual orientation to?

[.curve]

The chemical reaction gives you the tendency to be gay. You can ignore that and live a straight life.

I'm still puzzled as to what makes you so sure it works that way, or why you think it does. >_> Out of curiosity, what other choice are you comparing sexual orientation to?

I did say it was a theory.

[XemnasXD]

Curve are you sexually attracted women or do you just have a tendency to be sexually attracted to them.

[.curve]

Curve are you sexually attracted women or do you just have a tendency to be sexually attracted to them.

I had a tendency to be sexually attracted to them, and I acted on it.

[XemnasXD]

Have you ever had a tendency to be sexually attracted to men?

[.curve]

Have you ever had a tendency to be sexually attracted to men?

Not at all. I know what is personally right and wrong. Plus the same sex isn't my style.

[XemnasXD]

Have you ever had a tendency to be sexually attracted to men?

Not at all. I know what is personally right and wrong. Plus the same sex isn't my style.

So you have had a tendency to be attracted to women, but you have never had a tendency to be attracted to men.

would you say that your tendency to be attracted to women and not men came from someone else or from yourself. By this i mean did you learn to be attracted to women via outside influence [seeing male/female couples, looking at parental behavior, information passed down from others] or was it a tendency determined from within [in the absence of all these influences you would still find yourself attracted to women because regardless of the influence it is the women that you are attracted to (physically) and not the social constructs derived from the process of opposite sex coupling]

Note that "tendency to be attracted to" applies no conscious decision made ie "I have a tendency to notice when a light is turned on" I am neither choosing to notice the light or choosing to ignore it just when its on i notice it....

[.curve]

Have you ever had a tendency to be sexually attracted to men?

Not at all. I know what is personally right and wrong. Plus the same sex isn't my style.

So you have had a tendency to be attracted to women, but you have never had a tendency to be attracted to men.

would you say that your tendency to be attracted to women and not men came from someone else or from yourself. By this i mean did you learn to be attracted to women via outside influence [seeing male/female couples, looking at parental behavior, information passed down from others] or was it a tendency determined from within [in the absence of all these influences you would still find yourself attracted to women because regardless of the influence it is the women that you are attracted to (physically) and not the social constructs derived from the process of opposite sex coupling]

Note that "tendency to be attracted to" applies no conscious decision made ie "I have a tendency to notice when a light is turned on" I am neither choosing to notice the light or choosing to ignore it just when its on i notice it....

It was a mix of both. I grew up seeing mommy and daddy. Not mommy and mommy or daddy and daddy. But as I grew up, I thought girls were cute and I dated them. I personally preferred Jane over Jimmy.

[Mr.Ganji]

Its not a choice to be gay.

So are people just born with different sexual orientations? Is it really genetic?

[XemnasXD]

it sounds like you don't have a "tendency" to be attracted to women at all. From the way you were raised, the discovery yourself, and the continuation and admittance to having never been attracted to men it seems like you are....brace yourself...


...Attracted to women. I don't think its a tendency which implies sometimes you're attracted to them and sometimes you're attracted to something else...cock. No, it sounds like you found out for yourself that you are attracted to females regardless of the social constructs and ideas that were in place around you. I'd bet that if i put you in some weird version of the truman show that was filled with nothing but gays and lesbians, you'd STILL find yourself attracted to the tuna.

Now take all that in and bare with me cause im going to do something odd. Im going to flip the script. Take your situations and flip it around. I want you to picture your life and everything thats taken place in it all the way back to that moments when you first found yourself attracted to a female. Not like that first grade girl friend, you just wanted a girl friend back then because kids are stupid. No i want you to think back to that moment where you first saw a girl and was like....i could go for some of that, i could really go for some of that....


I want you to go back to that moment and replace that girl and other girls you've had those feelings for with guys. Thats what it is to be gay. You may grow up in a nice mommy daddy family, you might even get a nice 2nd grade girl friend even though chicks still had cooties, but there comes a time when you look at a guy the way the you will never look at a girl. There comes a time when you see some guy and you think...i could go for some of that. Its not a tendency, its not a switch, its not a choice, no more than any choice you made. You find yourself attracted to something and its not females its males.

Whether you act on this or not IS a choice, but it is what it is. Even if you choose never to have sex with a girl you will still feel that type of way about them. That doesn't go away. I can't beat the straight out of you, i can't yell the straight out of you its a part of you. Choosing to ignore that would be living a lie, if you feel that way about females but choose to act like you like males you would be lying to everyone including yourself.

I don't see why i should have to live a lie for people like you who can't see even a second beyond yourselves wouldn't even for a second attempt to walk a mile in anyone elses shoes but your own while you condemn and condone like your judge and jury and you've got ALL the answers....people like you aren't even close to living a lie for....

[.curve]

I want you to go back to that moment and replace that girl and other girls you've had those feelings for with guys. Thats what it is to be gay. You may grow up in a nice mommy daddy family, you might even get a nice 2nd grade girl friend even though chicks still had cooties, but there comes a time when you look at a guy the way the you will never look at a girl. There comes a time when you see some guy and you think...i could go for some of that. Its not a tendency, its not a switch, its not a choice, no more than any choice you made. You find yourself attracted to something and its not females its males.

Big difference. I won't get offended if someone calls me straight because of the choice I made to be sexually attracted to girls. Whereas gays are offended by the slew of terms thrown at them because of their choice.

Also note that when I say tendency, I mean it in the slang, cynical form.

[XemnasXD]

if you say that there is a choice you are making you are saying that if you wanted to you could find yourself sexually attracted to guys. Are you saying that. Are you honestly saying that if you want you could look at some guys solid c**k and totally want to be all over that. Just turn on your gay switch.

not only that but i never see where you made this choice. You said that despite mommy+daddy when you grew up you found girls to be cute. I don't see where you had this epiphany and decided i could like tits or i could like dick, now which should i choose. Where did that happen. I've never met anyone who had that talk with themselves. I've never met the guy who was like well when my tie came to choose i decided to go with girls, i think that route has potential.

[.curve]

if you say that there is a choice you are making you are saying that if you wanted to you could find yourself sexually attracted to guys. Are you saying that. Are you honestly saying that if you want you could look at some guys solid c**k and totally want to be all over that. Just turn on your gay switch.

I don't know. Never tried. Don't want to try. I do suppose it would be possible. Not like you described, but it would make sense that anyone could make a transition, yes.

[XemnasXD]

well try it and let me know how it works. I want you to go test your theory. Its a very simple one to test, just find a guy and turn on your gay switch, make out a little, play with his man jawn, put things in places...and like it of course....

that probably won't happen tbh. Im going to go ask all my straight friends if they find their gay switch and just make the jump cause afaik, they don't have one. No one does.


i guess you are a unique snowflake...a sexually ambiguously unique snowflake....

[.curve]

well try it and let me know how it works. I want you to go test your theory. Its a very simple one to test, just find a guy and turn on your gay switch, make out a little, play with his man jawn, put things in places...and like it of course....

that probably won't happen tbh. Im going to go ask all my straight friends if they find their gay switch and just make the jump cause afaik, they don't have one. No one does.


i guess you are a unique snowflake...a sexually ambiguously unique snowflake....

Not my style. Sorry.

[_Lana_]

Not my style. Sorry.

Well some people don't have the straight style.
I asked my gay friend a lot of questions and so far i understander i somehow.
Gay guys find guys attractive the same way str8 girls do,same goes for Lesbians and Str8 guys. (Duh)

I don't understand why are you making such a fuss about,they were born like that.
I can't turn les,so obviously they can't be str8 no matter how much they wanted it.
Honestly i don't mind them,they can make out in front of me or w/e i wouldn't care.Just leave them be.

[Maniac]

why are you guys arguing with .curve?

apparently he isnt very intelligent, that's how most homophobes are.

[.curve]

why are you guys arguing with .curve?

apparently he isnt very intelligent, that's how most homophobes are.

Loled at homophobe.

Try reading next time.

i have been in NYC with my boyfriend the past 2 weeks and just return home so anyways yesterday we both decided to get married after being together for almost a year.... about time.

he wants to move to Connecticut to get married but i prefer massachussetts better since its more liberal but the details are still being worked out. but anyways the wedding will likely be within a month. my mother already said she will definitely be there but my father is a very religious and bigoted person so he doesnt approve of the marriage. we going to decide on a good location thats memorable and will post picture of the wedding once it's available.

anyways, here's a pic of me and my soon to be husband. [im on the right] it's a large image dont know how to resize it

Spoiler!

thank u everyone for reading. im quite anxious to that day.

Congratulations sir. It's good to see that your mother is supportive of it. I wish you the best, and again, congratulations to the both of you.

[Maniac]

look man... there are many people who are claiming that being gay isn't a choice, including gay people who knows for certain and speaks from experience. why are you arguing with people who definitely know for sure?

that's like someone arguing with you over what color you like and what food you like. only u know the answer. theyd have no reason to lie lol.

[.curve]

look man... there are many people who are claiming that being gay isn't a choice, including gay people who knows for certain and speaks from experience. why are you arguing with people who definitely know for sure?

that's like someone arguing with you over what color you like and what food you like. only u know the answer. theyd have no reason to lie lol.

They don't know for sure. That's the reason there are still tests and experiments being done.

Fact of the matter is that being gay is not the socially accepted norm. Not saying I'm for or against it, I personally don't care. That's just the harsh truth.

[MonkeyMan]

If there is a wedding, who wears the wedding dress?

Sorry, i had to ask

[.curve]

If there is a wedding, who wears the wedding dress?

Sorry, i had to ask

Didn't you see I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry?
Both wear tuxedos.

[takolin]

Fact of the matter is that being gay is not the socially accepted norm. Not saying I'm for or against it, I personally don't care. That's just the harsh truth.

True, but that still doesn't mean they chose it.

One of the more convincing reasons against your theory of choosing to be gay or straight is a glance at the animal kingdom.

Humans are probably the only animal that can make conscience choices. Other animals base their choices on instincts.

If you accept the above as true, animals can't choose their sexual preference.
And if they follow choices by their instincts, all animals should be straight because only straight animals can produce offspring and ensure that the species lives on.

BUT homosexual behaviour has been noticed in nearly 1500 species ranged from apes to worms.


Thus we can conclude people don't choose to be gay.

[.curve]

Fact of the matter is that being gay is not the socially accepted norm. Not saying I'm for or against it, I personally don't care. That's just the harsh truth.

True, but that still doesn't mean they chose it.

One of the more convincing reasons against your theory of choosing to be gay or straight is a glance at the animal kingdom.

Humans are probably the only animal that can make conscience choices. Other animals base their choices on instincts.

If you accept the above as true, animals can't choose their sexual preference.
And if they follow choices by their instincts, all animals should be straight because only straight animals can produce offspring and ensure that the species lives on.

BUT homosexual behaviour has been noticed in nearly 1500 species ranged from apes to worms.


Thus we can conclude people don't choose to be gay.

We're also of higher intelligence...

[Maniac]

We're also of higher intelligence...

u cant control something that's hardwired into your DNA. there are people that gets fat how matter how much they eat, and there are skinny people that eats 24/7 and never gain a pound.

for example if you are a born to be a dumbass, then no matter how much time u spend studying you will always be dumb. there are people that are naturally intelligent. they excel at everything with no effort. nothing u can do about it. the world is better when everyone is unique... short and tall, fat and skinny, ugly and pretty, stupid and smart, gay and straight, black and white, rich and poor, etc...

[XemnasXD]

We're also of higher intelligence...

So that means what? That we have the intelligence to discriminate against homosexuals unlike animals. Or that we have the intelligence to pass laws to lock them away. Or that we have the intelligence to fear, hate,or kill them for unknown reasons.

If your imply that because have have higher intelligence we should, even if were are gay, make the conscious decision not to act on it then you're just being a hypocrite. If that were the case then all straight people should make the conscious decision to only have sex with the intent of procreation. All people should make the decision to ignore feelings of love in the face of more rational options and love is anything but rational. Humans are humans. Gay people are humans too.

I still don't see why you seem to think we should act like we're not human. Sex is natural. Gays are natural. No one is getting hurt. So why should we curb our behavior.

[Mr.Ganji]

Gays are natural. No one is getting hurt. So why should we curb our behavior.

THE BIBLE SAYS ITS WRONG SO ITS WRONG LOL