Israel and the Gaza

[omier]

@herro the former PM of gaza even said that Hamas is putting the civilians in harms way on purpose.

A classic human shield scene in movies involving 2 people with guns and one hostage.

[*BlackFox]

"Using civilians as shields in war"

Human shields fall into two categories: people who volunteer to stay at military facilities as a means of protesting war and unwilling civilians a government forces to remain at a military site in the hopes that would prevent its destruction. During the 1991 Gulf War, Iraq used both foreign hostages and Iraqi civilians as human shields.

"It requires that we work very closely with the intelligence community to determine what that situation might be at a particular location," the official said.

Rumsfeld also spoke about the use of human shields during his later briefing. "Saddam Hussein ... has used civilians as human shields on the battlefield, exposing them to bullets and bombs in the hope that they would be killed and he could then blame that on others for propaganda reasons,"

That's Just one example of thousands.

[cbkilla]

2 rockets where just luanched at Tel Aviv, both got intercepted by the Iron Dome, one was right over where i work. Didnt get to see it live myself cause once the sirens went off everyone runs to the shelters but the boom was pretty loud and you could see the smoke on the air where the 2 rockets collided.

Doubt ill be ballsy enough to go on the roof and record it if the launch more but we'll see.

[_Dutchy_]

2 rockets where just luanched at Tel Aviv, both got intercepted by the Iron Dome, one was right over where i work. Didnt get to see it live myself cause once the sirens went off everyone runs to the shelters but the boom was pretty loud and you could see the smoke on the air where the 2 rockets collided.

Doubt ill be ballsy enough to go on the roof and record it if the launch more but we'll see.

Good thing isreal has the iron dome now thats for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8kAyqbKwd1o

[Jstar1]

Doubt ill be ballsy enough to go on the roof and record it if the launch more but we'll see.

uh please dont..thats exactly how the 3 israelis got killed in this year's fighting.

[cbkilla]

Yea they didnt send anymore to Tel Aviv till about an hour ago and i was home already. Israel did send 80 trucks with food and medical supplies into gaza.
Later on gaza will probably deny that we ever did or say that its poison rofl.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 34,00.html

[eaglehawk]

I usally stand on the side that defends its population instead of using it as shields and there deaths as propaganda.

you do realize that what you are saying is infact propaganda, only from the other side.

i sometimes wonder if you had any education. vmbo kaderberoeps misschien?

no its not propaganda son, that is the only way the filistini know how to fight and gain western useful idiots to rally to their cause. if they fight a conventional war even with help from all their arab "brothers" and iran they will still lose to the "zionists".

[XemnasXD]

Yea they didnt send anymore to Tel Aviv till about an hour ago and i was home already. Israel did send 80 trucks with food and medical supplies into gaza.
Later on gaza will probably deny that we ever did or say that its poison rofl.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 34,00.html

well since you are blockading it you might as well send them food

so now Israel sits safely behind it's iron shield while they bomb the **** out of Gaza killing civilians left and right

[cbkilla]

Yea they didnt send anymore to Tel Aviv till about an hour ago and i was home already. Israel did send 80 trucks with food and medical supplies into gaza.
Later on gaza will probably deny that we ever did or say that its poison rofl.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 34,00.html

well since you are blockading it you might as well send them food

so now Israel sits safely behind it's iron shield while they bomb the **** out of Gaza killing civilians left and right

We are only bombing targets used by hamas and other terrorist organizations for terror activities.
Hamas uses public places such as radio stations, hospitals, schools, and does not let the civilians leave these areas when we are air striking.
Israel drops leaflets all over gaza and taps into their radio waves warning their civilians to stay away from certain areas.
Not to mention we send them 80 trucks worth of supplies.
Hamas on the other hand is sending rockets to ONLY residential areas, they are purposely looking for civilian death and if it weren't for the iron dome israels death toll would be in the thousands by now considering how many rockets they've been firing over the years.
They also had a released a video the otherday saying they will renew suicede bombers.
So im still confused on how Israel looks like the bad guy here.

no its not propaganda son, that is the only way the filistini know how to fight and gain western useful idiots to rally to their cause. if they fight a conventional war even with help from all their arab "brothers" and iran they will still lose to the "zionists".

Basically what your saying is they cant play by the rules so they cheat, by for some reason its ok for them to cheat?

[Fiction]

no its not propaganda son, that is the only way the filistini know how to fight and gain western useful idiots to rally to their cause. if they fight a conventional war even with help from all their arab "brothers" and iran they will still lose to the "zionists".

Basically what your saying is they cant play by the rules so they cheat, by for some reason its ok for them to cheat?

It kinda sums it up. I mean aren't they always using cheap tactics? Who was the one that attacked Israel on their holy day, with all Israel's defenses down, and still got their asses handed to them.

There is going to be propaganda on both sides, that's how you get morale boosted and gain support, but it's pretty obvious who is actually using it in a deceptive way. Which side is just trying to exist, and which side has stated time after time, the other side should be exterminated? They try to kill them off because they've apparently stolen a piece of land(which is the size of Jersey) yet they're surrounded by large amounts of unused land...

It's as it always is, if you play by the rules, you're going to get in more trouble when you slip up than the guy who never played by the rules in the first place. Hamas intentionally hides behind women and children... and anyone who defends them should be ashamed of themselves.

[heroo]

no its not propaganda son, that is the only way the filistini know how to fight and gain western useful idiots to rally to their cause. if they fight a conventional war even with help from all their arab "brothers" and iran they will still lose to the "zionists".

we are talking about gaza here. an area of 360 km² with 1.4 million people. that's like 3500 people per square kilometer. it's not like Hamas is hiding behind civillains, they just don't have a choice then to fight in the midst of civillians. also don't give yourself a pat on the back, because the only reason Israël hasn't been defeated yet is because they're practically the 51st state of the USA. Israël is just an extension of the united states to the middle-east.

and the funniest part is that Israël is trying so hard to 'protect their peace', when deep inside they know they will never have peace as long as they stay there. i see Israël as the biggest threat to the relative peace the world is enjoying right now. Israël is a ticking timebomb that needs to be disabled asap. i can only pray there will be an american president who will see that and is willing to act.

and HA-FCKING-HA to all you guys here talking about 'playing by the rules'. this is fcking war. there are no rules.

[cbkilla]

and HA-FCKING-HA to all you guys here talking about 'playing by the rules'. this is fcking war. there are no rules.

Really shows how mature you are.

[BuDo]

Do they put weed inside the Hookah pipe or is it just for flavored tobacco?...I'm kinda curious...Is it against some type of religious cultural belief to cram that thing with weed?

[cbkilla]

hookah is just regular flavored tobacco but you can put weed in if you want lol.

[XemnasXD]

Yea they didnt send anymore to Tel Aviv till about an hour ago and i was home already. Israel did send 80 trucks with food and medical supplies into gaza.
Later on gaza will probably deny that we ever did or say that its poison rofl.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 34,00.html

well since you are blockading it you might as well send them food

so now Israel sits safely behind it's iron shield while they bomb the **** out of Gaza killing civilians left and right

We are only bombing targets used by hamas and other terrorist organizations for terror activities.
Hamas uses public places such as radio stations, hospitals, schools, and does not let the civilians leave these areas when we are air striking.
Israel drops leaflets all over gaza and taps into their radio waves warning their civilians to stay away from certain areas.
Not to mention we send them 80 trucks worth of supplies.
Hamas on the other hand is sending rockets to ONLY residential areas, they are purposely looking for civilian death and if it weren't for the iron dome israels death toll would be in the thousands by now considering how many rockets they've been firing over the years.
They also had a released a video the otherday saying they will renew suicede bombers.
So im still confused on how Israel looks like the bad guy here.

You're confused cause you're so brainwashed.

Listen to what you're saying. Israel is OK to bomb hospitals, schools, radio stations, and basically any public place that might be full of civilians because Hamas might be there? How does that even make sense. I'm glad you send down leaflets telling people to stay away from any public area or they may be bombed but where else are they supposed to go? Can't go to the store can't be near someplace that sells food or clothing or provides shelter cause Hamas might be there so it's OK to bomb!

You've been blockading supplies to the region for years and just because you sent 80 trucks worth of food you think that's a big deal? Hundreds of trucks full of food move in and out my my city every day. Possibly thousands. And you're sitting there going, well we sent in 80 so they should be happy.

You're right the Israeli death toll would be higher if it wasn't for its massive technological superiority. No news agency has reported a single terrorist fatality. When you guys bombed that Tv station and killed 12 civilians, most of whom were journalist, some of whom were with the BBC and clearly NOT being forced to stay their by Hamas like you keep claiming. So far 82 civilians have died and the bombs keep flying so maybe schools, hospitals, and radio stations are not prime Hamas hot spots.


Not to mention that Israel broke the ceasefire with the whole blowing up of the Gaza military leader to begin with and have publicly stated that if Palestine tries to move up it's status in the UN, a completely legal and non-military threat in any way, Israel will respond by taking offensive military actions.


Your country is a dick. It's the biggest dick in the middle east and it's filled with idiots like you who think who have somehow deluded themselves into thinking that it's OK to occupy someone elses land, force them into tight areas, put a blockade around them, then violate international law and bomb them to death. Not just OK, that it's their God given right.

[Bartic]

Things are not always as media reports them. Just saying.

[cbkilla]

[heroo]

and HA-FCKING-HA to all you guys here talking about 'playing by the rules'. this is fcking war. there are no rules.

Really shows how mature you are.

ohh, the irony.

priceless.

[Aristocrat]

I guess noone does anything since Isreal is the 53rd state of the USA. Palestinians lived there, after the war, the rest of the world decided to put a country in a country. And the ones who lives there doesnt like it, and they are the terrorists, that's just...odd. And I'm not palestinian/israelian saying this. This is a disgrace to humanity, that politicians value wars differently. I'm shocked noone has tried to put an end to israels policies.

[omier]

The only reason Israël hasn't been defeated yet is because they're practically the 51st state of the USA. Israël is just an extension of the united states to the middle-east.

[cbkilla]

I guess noone does anything since Isreal is the 53rd state of the USA. Palestinians lived there, after the war, the rest of the world decided to put a country in a country. And the ones who lives there doesnt like it, and they are the terrorists, that's just...odd. And I'm not palestinian/israelian saying this. This is a disgrace to humanity, that politicians value wars differently. I'm shocked noone has tried to put an end to israels policies.

Palestine was never a country it was no more then territories. Israel did nothing different then what the Americans did with the Native Americans except the fact that we did actually live here first.

And the ones who lives there doesnt like it, and they are the terrorists, that's just...odd.

No one said they are terrorist for not liking it. They are terrorist for way they handled the situation; by sending rockets to residential areas only and threating to renew suicide bombers. If you dont call that a terrorist then im just speechless.

[heroo]

cbkilla, people like you are the reason for the growing antisemitism in the world.

true story.

[Aristocrat]

I guess noone does anything since Isreal is the 53rd state of the USA. Palestinians lived there, after the war, the rest of the world decided to put a country in a country. And the ones who lives there doesnt like it, and they are the terrorists, that's just...odd. And I'm not palestinian/israelian saying this. This is a disgrace to humanity, that politicians value wars differently. I'm shocked noone has tried to put an end to israels policies.

Palestine was never a country it was no more then territories. Israel did nothing different then what the Americans did with the Native Americans except the fact that we did actually live here first.

you mean kill and rape the indian tribes? lulz

[BuDo]

More fuel for the fire...lol. Media at work showing a one sided view...dang.. This is how sheep minded people in the west get their daily dose of sheep food...



I might agree with the add except it's sooo biased...They should be showing both sides so people get a broader understanding...

[XemnasXD]

I guess noone does anything since Isreal is the 53rd state of the USA. Palestinians lived there, after the war, the rest of the world decided to put a country in a country. And the ones who lives there doesnt like it, and they are the terrorists, that's just...odd. And I'm not palestinian/israelian saying this. This is a disgrace to humanity, that politicians value wars differently. I'm shocked noone has tried to put an end to israels policies.

Palestine was never a country it was no more then territories. Israel did nothing different then what the Americans did with the Native Americans except the fact that we did actually live here first.

And the ones who lives there doesnt like it, and they are the terrorists, that's just...odd.

No one said they are terrorist for not liking it. They are terrorist for way they handled the situation; by sending rockets to residential areas only and threating to renew suicide bombers. If you dont call that a terrorist then im just speechless.

you do realize that Americans committed genocide....

Hamas fires 200 rockets, kills 3 people

Israel has so far killed 105 people, almost all civilians, plenty of children and babies. Gotta stop them while they're young i guess. Or Hamas was hiding out in that hospital so i guess those kids should've gone elsewhere in Gaza, that wasn't being bombed...

oh wait all of Gaza is being bombed so they don't have anywhere to go.

Yeah you're right on track with that whole genocide thing, keep it up.

[cbkilla]

err just stay home? All the israelis are staying home, its not like they're all running to some secret underground government facility to stay safe lol. As long as you dont have a senior terrorist at your house over for dinner the IAF isnt just going to strike your house for no reason.

[XemnasXD]

err just stay home? All the israelis are staying home, its not like they're all running to some secret underground government facility to stay safe lol. As long as you dont have a senior terrorist at your house over for dinner the IAF isnt just going to strike your house for no reason.

except thats what they've been doing. You can see the remains on every major news network around the world..

how blind can you be? And if you do get injured where do you go for help? Not the hospital cause they're bombing them.

[cbkilla]

The remains are the the terror targets that we've been hitting lol. As i said we arent just air striking random civilian houses like hamas is.

[Swindler]

The remains are the the terror targets that we've been hitting lol. As i said we arent just air striking random civilian houses like hamas is.

If the government told you that you had 3 dicks inside your ass you would believe them.

and lol @ that video. Stockholm would tolerate bombing since we practically got no army left, just waiting for the russian invasion.

FOR MOTHER RUSSIA!

[cbkilla]

The remains are the the terror targets that we've been hitting lol. As i said we arent just air striking random civilian houses like hamas is.

If the government told you that you had 3 dicks inside your ass you would believe them.

and lol @ that video. Stockholm would tolerate bombing since we practically got no army left, just waiting for the russian invasion.

FOR MOTHER RUSSIA!

That goes both ways. I dont believe the the palistinians have nearly as many casualties as they are claim but you dont see me going " oh im sure their government and media is lying about everything."
Every government and media over/under exaggerates or bullshits, the unfortunate part for us civilians is when never know when or how much.