If you can't get some, it's not cause you're ugly

[Goseki]

Sex - The Truth

1) First time = awkward, bloody, painful, and sucks unless you and your partner are close and willing to discuss.

2) Multiple partners is not the same as experience. Having a few partners is more than enough to get a general scope of things.

3) With the pill + condoms, your chances of getting pregnant are less than 1%. If you do get her preggers while she's taking the pill correctly, than go buy yourself a Farking lottery ticket because you just beat some seriously stacked odds.

4) Religion = bad when you take it too far. Take them more as guidelines.

5) Abortion = touchy since you have whores that will let anything get between their legs and innocent girls that are raped and forced to give birth to a life that they never wanted and even hate.

6) Sex is different for guys and gals. Guys can bang pretty much anything that looks hot to them. Unless they are in the minority and have an ultra-sensitive clitoris or g-spot that gives them climaxes in minutes, they're prob gonna be faking for you. I remember the % was something around only 20% or less of women can ever climax from penile stimulation alone.

7) Abstinence should be a choice made by you. If someone is telling you to do that, they either think you're too immature, you're under 18, they're a religious idiot, you're a religious idiot, etc.

If you're under 18, don't do it. The emotional havoc it could create, especially for girls, can be devastating.

9) Never stick it in without a condom unless you're married. No matter how horny you are. And I mean the person you're married too mind you -_-.

10) Sex is a variety of things. Some use it to relief stress, others to connect with their partner, while others use it as a commodity. Whatever the reason for it, just make sure it's consensual and it will usually be good. This includes that neither party is drunk.

[Pinoy_Archer]

Forgive me for the mass quote there, its just soo often people give me there honest opinion about this.

My pity excuse, why i think this way:
I have a very very Strict Religion(Seventh Day-Adventist, BARELY NO FCKING FUN AT ALL!), also a very very STRICT Parents... they never let me out at 8 in the night! and i'm already 18 and have a drivers licence. I never have tested dancing in a disco bar, never have entered a drinking bar, HELL I HAVENT EXPERIENCE GOING INSIDE A FCKING CINEMA HOUSE. My life is shit because of my family religion and parents, but 1 thing i noticed in my whole life, I became a better man, i never grew up to be a stray away person, though i may curse my family and religion for they have done... I might have to thank them for what i am today.

Of course sex is used to make babies Archer, but have you ever tried walking into a bar, meeting a nice girl, then after a few drinks you guys go to her place and the first thing that comes out of your mouth is "hey, let's have sex to make babies."

GODLIKE Strict Parents and Religion = No fun. No fun =no going to bars and experiencing being drunk. therefore i cant relate.

I can assure you that most of the marital and pre-marital marriage sex that takes place among regular people are not done for the sole purpose of baby-making. If you think otherwise, then you're in for a big shock.

I know, its for fun. It just pisses me off that some people abused it.

And run out of luck with condoms, birth control pills, and pull out method?
So, basically you're telling me that I should abstain right? lol.
Go enjoy your sad excuse for remaining a virgin.

This for now.

Spoiler!

and damn, i still enjoy it. its cheap and safe!

also does improve a person's mental health - it's a normal part of everyone's lives.

How?... seriously, i want to know, just to add information for the future.

And religion did far worse things than make people guilty for having sex before marriage.

There are reasons behind it to many positive and negatives(i know you know...), problem of is i'm a chain thinker spending all of my time thinking every single root both positive and negative sides. Most of the time I think the Negative side, i was raised to think this way. And yeah I'm denying, by the end of this thread I feel more excited going to church now

Then again, I grew up in the Philippines myself so I know how conservative the standards are in there; so I can't really blame you if that form of mentality is ingrained into you.

Thank you... at least you know how shitty Philippines is. Well we were raised differently, so we have different thoughts in mind. OFT: BTW how many years did you stay in Philippines and where?

it seems to me that you really have a lot more to learn before you can even begin a real discussion regarding that subject.

I'm more exposed to the bad sides and its consequence really, cuz i really dont see the benefits of the good side.

Pretty touchy subject for someone with a close mind like you.

what do you mean?

[Doron]

+ It's the best exercise you can think of. you use soo many muscles during sex, calories just fly off, if you eat normal and **** for you homecountry for a year, you'll be in the best shape in no time (at least 3 times a week, if I remember correctly.

Not really. Sex is an aerobic exercise. It's similar to running, etc., but not really on the same level. Sex (aerobic exercise) combined with flexibility, and strength exercises will get you in good shape. However, sex alone won't do much.

well, not if you only do missionary and doggy,

do the whole kamasutra, fuckin good workout.

[inky]

Going a bit off-topic, but what the hell...

@Archer:

Thank you... at least you know how shitty Philippines is. Well we were raised differently, so we have different thoughts in mind. OFT: BTW how many years did you stay in Philippines and where?

I lived in the Philippines for 14.5 years. My parents/grandparents were actually pretty religious; not as religious as your parents, probably, but they did flip out when I told them I don't believe in God - that was after years of church service (choir, altar boy, liturgical, etc) and spending my entire life in a Catholic school. Also had Bible study classes on the side at one point. I moved to NY after and right now I'm almost 21.

How?... seriously, i want to know, just to add information for the future.

I can write all day about this but nothing explains it a lot better than getting first-hand experience. (And also because I'm too lazy to start quoting my Psychiatric RN and Psychology textbooks at 11AM - I just woke up)

what do you mean?

It means that you're too close-minded. You only see every situation from your pretentious moral high ground. It means that you're too close-minded to see each situation as being unique; instead, you only see every situation as a "potential murder." You have to consider the circumstances: was the person raped? what's their economic status? what would happen in the future? could the formation of the child be potentially be harmful to the parent? What do you think you would feel if you were in someone's shoes?

And not everyone considers an early-stage fetus to be a baby. That's like saying every ejaculation deserves a name and a funeral.

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Btw, try not start using the word "pure" when describing virgin women - it's pretty degrading to women and my girlfriend told me you're the type of guy who would most likely, literally, get his nuts busted in a bar (especially if you start talking about purity, because you're implying that non-virgins are "whores" or "dirty"). Not cool man.

And uhh..being a "better man" because of religion kind of implies that non-religious folks are below you. See what I mean when I said "moral high ground"? It's pretty goddamn arrogant, especially since most of the people who belong to these strict religions have barely, if any, experience at all regarding what they preach. I like having first-hand experience, at least I can talk about it in a fair manner rather than blindly paraphrasing your church handbook passages.

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Lol. The whole Kamasutra thing blows. It puts you in a bunch of weird, awkward, boner-killing positions. Not saying stick to the 2 basics - just explore; find out for yourselves what's comfortable for yourselves. Think about playing Tetris lol.

[SM-Count]

It means that you're too close-minded. You only see every situation from your pretentious moral high ground. It means that you're too close-minded to see each situation as being unique; instead, you only see every situation as a "potential murder." You have to consider the circumstances: was the person raped? what's their economic status? what would happen in the future? could the formation of the child be potentially be harmful to the parent? What do you think you would feel if you were in someone's shoes?

And not everyone considers an early-stage fetus to be a baby. That's like saying every ejaculation deserves a name and a funeral.

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Btw, try not start using the word "pure" when describing virgin women - it's pretty degrading to women and my girlfriend told me you're the type of guy who would most likely, literally, get his nuts busted in a bar (especially if you start talking about purity, because you're implying that non-virgins are "whores" or "dirty"). Not cool man.

And uhh..being a "better man" because of religion kind of implies that non-religious folks are below you. See what I mean when I said "moral high ground"? It's pretty goddamn arrogant, especially since most of the people who belong to these strict religions have barely, if any, experience at all regarding what they preach. I like having first-hand experience, at least I can talk about it in a fair manner rather than blindly paraphrasing your church handbook passages.

You might think he's close minded but you write with the biggest self-righteous attitude in OTL I've seen in a long time and self-righteousness annoy the shit out of everyone. As a reminder, you're already on 2 warnings about your attitude, and I'm lenient enough not to give the 3rd strike. Don't bother replying to this or arguing, this is just a reminder; stop the bs about how only you can be objective.

[inky]

It's my opinion. I might criticize some people a bit often but at least I know how to take criticisms myself. If you want to use your moderator standing in the forum to threaten people in the forum simply because you disagree with them, you're really the one who's way out of line. As far as I'm concerned, my point-of-view regarding this subject has nothing to do with the the official rules; just the simple fact that you don't agree with me and you don't like me.

Spoiler!

annoy the shit out of everyone.

And please don't speak for everyone. I'm sure a lot of people get annoyed by some of my replies but don't generalize. OTL is great for having people with different opinions - can you imagine everyone having the same mindset?

Don't reply to this; this is just a reality check.

[XemnasXD]

should've taken it to pm...now you're giving him a reason...

[antics]

i dont believe in seck before marriage
but it shouldnt be thrown around so loosely
it should be with someone u care. like with a partner uve been with for months that u can trust
just meeee

[Isis]

3) With the pill + condoms, your chances of getting pregnant are less than 1%. If you do get her preggers while she's taking the pill correctly, than go buy yourself a Farking lottery ticket because you just beat some seriously stacked odds.

5) Abortion = touchy since you have whores that will let anything get between their legs and innocent girls that are raped and forced to give birth to a life that they never wanted and even hate.

Can I just point out that nothing is safe from getting pregnant, the safest thing is not to have sex. I've known woman that have fallen pregnant while on the pill and have taken it properly. Nothing is safe!! But pregnancy isn't the worse thing to worry about, yeah I know it can ruin your life if your young. But it is the STD's that you have to worry about, that you really have to be safe from.

Abortion is a very touchy subject with some people, you either agree with it or you don't, and there is the in between. I am in between, I agree with when it is really necessary, but for the people that use it as a form of contraception are in the wrong.

[_Scarlett_]

do the whole kamasutra, fuckin good workout.

LOLOLOLOL. Not everyone's that flexible >.>. Think I'd pull something trying some of those moves.

[SM-Count]

should've taken it to pm...now you're giving him a reason...

pm would be official warning, which would be warning number 3 (the first two not given by me) and he would already be banned.

[SweetNess]

because of my family religion and parents,1 thing i noticed in my whole life, I became a better man/woman, i never grew up to be a stray away person, though i may curse my family and religion for they have done... I might have to thank them for what i am today.

+1 best quote i have ever read in this forum

[vajayjay]

If you can't get some... its because THIS guy ruined it for the rest of us.

http://melodymaker.posterous.com/the-re ... very-funny


Discuss.

[Doron]

If you can't get some... its because THIS guy ruined it for the rest of us.

http://melodymaker.posterous.com/the-re ... very-funny


Discuss.

omg.

what an arrogant self centerded narcisistic asshole. *calling someone a jellyfish sounds better in dutch, cuz Kwal is a more serious word, it sounds a lot harder, and jellyfish sound more funny*

BTW,listen to this guys, when any of these excuses come up, gtfo.

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[Goseki]

Eh, I'm gonna agree with inky on that whole religions ppl tend to end up self-righteous and think they're above everyone else. So +1 for the ppl that aren't annoyed by him.

So if you insist on giving him a 3rd warning, toss it over to me. I'm pretty sure I got 0 warnings so I'll take a hit. The quote you posted doesn't seem very self-righteous to me. It's an opinion that is very accurate imo. I know many religious ppl, and normally the more religious they are, the more they think they're above everyone else.


@ Bastet, Yes you can always get preggers from doing it regardless of how much protection you get unless you get an operation to close off them tubes, but the odds are incredibly low. I'm running on 5 years and still banging away with no little baby popping out anytime. If you know what you're doing and protect yourself, you should be fine unless you rush it. Hell, I know a few ppl that just take the pill and wing it simply because it feels better.

People who use aboortion as a form of contraception are idiots. Your body can only go through that 2-3 times at most normally. Pushing it any further would either ensure you can never be pregnant later or it could kill you. Abortion happens naturally, but it's very rare. A body that's already under the pressure of taking care of another being goes under incredible stress when it has to abort the baby.