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DotCom · Post by **DotCom** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:55 pm

Nitro wrote:Btw ... Holland ... let Romania win against you ... So we kick Italy and France out of Championship!

How about it lets either Italy or France qualify so they deal with Spain?

woutR · Post by **woutR** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:01 pm

DotCom wrote:
Nitro wrote:Btw ... Holland ... let Romania win against you ... So we kick Italy and France out of Championship!

How about it lets either Italy or France qualify so they deal with Spain?

True that!
Maybe they can take Spain and after that we facefuck them all over again.

I think our B lineup should not be underestimated. Portugal's B lineup was crap, but most of our B lineup players have proven to be valuable assets already (Huntelaar for example).

DotCom · Post by **DotCom** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:29 pm

woutR wrote:
DotCom wrote:
Nitro wrote:Btw ... Holland ... let Romania win against you ... So we kick Italy and France out of Championship!

How about it lets either Italy or France qualify so they deal with Spain?

True that!
Maybe they can take Spain and after that we facefuck them all over again.

I think our B lineup should not be underestimated. Portugal's B lineup was crap, but most of our B lineup players have proven to be valuable assets already (Huntelaar for example).

lol u won 2 matches and you use the term "facefuck"? :roll:

Seriously, if Holland lets France/Italy qualify,it would be their biggest mistake ever.If you look at the past European and World Cup championships, both France and Italy have always had a hard time in the group qualifications. After that, they have made it at least in the semi-finals. I hope Holland does this mistake

woutR · Post by **woutR** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:05 pm

gahh, who gives a damn. We'll rape anything that comes in our path.

Jstar1 · Post by **Jstar1** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:43 am

go germany they beat austria

does anyone know where i can watch these games on the internet? thanks

Shimrod · Post by **Shimrod** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:55 am

Gosh sometimes you'll see matches which aren't worth anything. For example Germany vs Austria. Most exciting was sending off both coaches.

Quarterfinal Portugal - Germany seems promising to me but the way the Germans play (apart from Podolski and Lahm) I don't give a dime for their chances. On the other hand wasn't it Lineker who once said: "Football is easy, you have 22 players, the game lasts 90 minutes and in the end Germany wins" (or something along that line).

And regarding tonights match, I seriously doubt that van Basten even considers to lose from Romania in order to avoid Italy and or France in the semifinals. Hah, first you'll have to win the quarterfinal anyway and Italy / France have to cope with Spain.

woutR · Post by **woutR** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:28 pm

crap I am bored out of my mind, thought the match would start at 18:00 but it only starts somewhere near 20:00

I'm gonna bake something to kill some time, any suggestions?
I made an olivebread yesterday, but today I am leaning towards muffins or something of the like.

MrBow · Post by **MrBow** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:49 pm

20.45

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:51 pm

woutR wrote:crap I am bored out of my mind, thought the match would start at 18:00 but it only starts somewhere near 20:00

I'm gonna bake something to kill some time, any suggestions?
I made an olivebread yesterday, but today I am leaning towards muffins or something of the like.

Orangepie.

[SD]Twysta · Post by **[SD]Twysta** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:58 pm

Can't wait to see tonight's match.

Our b-line-up might not be as good the main team, but like has been said, they are not to be underestimated.

Question: I'm not a football freak so i'm not entirely familiar with the whole championship tournament.
What happens if they win? I saw something about Italy/France qualifying?
That's due to the points we let Romania take, right?
Any info appreciated

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:00 pm

[SD]Twysta wrote:Can't wait to see tonight's match.

Our b-line-up might not be as good the main team, but like has been said, they are not to be underestimated.

Question: I'm not a football freak so i'm not entirely familiar with the whole championship tournament.
What happens if they win? I saw something about Italy/France qualifying?
That's due to the points we let Romania take, right?
Any info appreciated

Win = 3 point
Draw = 1 point
Lost = 0 point

Holland is now top of the group with 6 points and Romania with 2 points, both Italy and France have 1 point each. Work some math out and you'll notice that the outcome of Holland vs Romania match will determine if both Italy and France have a chance to qualify at all.

Pan_Raider(`_´) · Post by **Pan_Raider(`_´)** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:24 pm

BakaFish wrote:
[SD]Twysta wrote:Can't wait to see tonight's match.

Our b-line-up might not be as good the main team, but like has been said, they are not to be underestimated.

Question: I'm not a football freak so i'm not entirely familiar with the whole championship tournament.
What happens if they win? I saw something about Italy/France qualifying?
That's due to the points we let Romania take, right?
Any info appreciated

Win = 3 point
Draw = 1 point
Lost = 0 point

Holland is now top of the group with 6 points and Romania with 2 points, both Italy and France have 1 point each. Work some math out and you'll notice that the outcome of Holland vs Romania match will determine if both Italy and France have a chance to qualify at all.

if Holland wins, they both have a chance to qualify: whoever wins is through then.
But if they draw, the goal difference will decide who is through.
If holland beats Romania 3:0 all will be equal
if higher, France or Italy is through.

If Holland draws or loses, Romania is through(if neither France nor Italy wins)

all is open

and i'm for France, Italy might be a good team, but they were too lucky at the World Cup 2006

Trice · Post by **Trice** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:38 pm

If romania win, Italy and France both go out.

Van Basten is quoted as saying holland will be playing for a win. Robben will be starting.

Spoiler!

MrBow · Post by **MrBow** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:41 pm

Holland will definetely win the game. They will start with 8 new players in the line up, but those players are top notch as well. Only players to fear from Romania are Mutu (but he missed penalties ^_^) and Chivu.

Trice wrote:He and Donadoni are good friends, so hopefully thats even more of a reason for them to batter the romanians

Hehe Dutch newspaper say coach Piturca is afraid of Van Basten.
He was supporter of Steaua Boekarest back in 1989 during Europe cup I final between AC Milan and Boekarest xd
Guess who scored for Milan (4-0)
- Van Basten 2x
- Ruud Gullit 2x

Edit: for Dutch people check this link to see which team (FR, IT, RO) will go through at what scenario (sorry non-Dutch I cba to translate all, maybe someone else wants to do it)
http://www.vi.nl/EKNieuwsItem/Scenarios ... cinten.htm

woutR · Post by **woutR** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:45 pm

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
BakaFish wrote:
[SD]Twysta wrote:Can't wait to see tonight's match.

Our b-line-up might not be as good the main team, but like has been said, they are not to be underestimated.

Question: I'm not a football freak so i'm not entirely familiar with the whole championship tournament.
What happens if they win? I saw something about Italy/France qualifying?
That's due to the points we let Romania take, right?
Any info appreciated

Win = 3 point
Draw = 1 point
Lost = 0 point

Holland is now top of the group with 6 points and Romania with 2 points, both Italy and France have 1 point each. Work some math out and you'll notice that the outcome of Holland vs Romania match will determine if both Italy and France have a chance to qualify at all.

if Holland wins, they both have a chance to qualify: whoever wins is through then.
But if they draw, the goal difference will decide who is through.
If holland beats Romania 3:0 all will be equal
if higher, France or Italy is through.

If Holland draws or loses, Romania is through(if neither France nor Italy wins)

all is open
and i'm for France, Italy might be a good team, but they were too lucky at the World Cup 2006

Correct, also Italy has a chance of advancing with a tie if it's a tie higher than 1-1, if Holland wins from Romania that is.
France's only chance is winning against Italy and praying we beat/draw Romania.

I don't think there can be a penalty shootout because with a tie between France and Italy ,which would be needed, there can be no even Goal saldo I believe. (Matches also take place at the same time, so France and Italy would have to tie and then hear what Romania - Holland was and then advance into penalties.)
I might be mistaken, and if I am the chances are extremely slim to say the least anyways.

This is all wrong if advancement is only judged by points and not goals, which I am not sure of.

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:47 pm

MrBow wrote:Holland will definetely win the game. They will start with 8 new players in the line up, but those players are top notch as well. Only players to fear from Romania are Mutu (but he missed penalties ^_^) and Chivu.

Smart thing to do for the sake of the tournament is to let Romania win.

Trice · Post by **Trice** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:55 pm

GROUP C PERMUTATIONS

The Netherlands have won Group C and will play the Group D runners-up in the quarter-finals.

Romania will qualify for the quarter-finals if they beat the Netherlands, eliminating France and Italy.

If Romania fail to beat the Netherlands, the winner of France v Italy will go through.

If France and Italy draw, a point against the Netherlands would be enough to send Romania through. France must win to have any chance of qualifying.

If France and Italy share a score draw (1-1, 2-2, 3-3 etc), Italy will go through if Romania lose (by any score). In this scenario, Italy, Romania and France will be level on two points each but Italy would have scored more goals in games between the 3 teams.

Romania will finish bottom of the group if they lose and France and Italy draw 2-2, 3-3 or 4-4. France will finish bottom if they draw 1-1 unless Romania lose 3-0 or by a four-goal margin.

606: DEBATE
Who will qualify from Group C?
If France and Italy draw 0-0, Romania can lose by one goal, two goals or by a three-goal margin other than 3-0 but still qualify. In this scenario, Italy and Romania would have identical head-to-head records, but Romania would have better goal difference in ALL group matches or, in the case of the three-goal defeats, goals scored. France would finish bottom, having scored fewer goals head-to-head v Italy and Romania.

If Romania lose 3-0 to the Dutch, Italy would qualify with a 0-0 draw against France because of their superior coefficient points. France would finish bottom as they would have scored fewer goals head-to-head v Italy and Romania.

If Romania lose by four goals or more and the other game ends 0-0, Italy would proceed with a better overall goal difference than Romania. France would finish bottom as they would have scored fewer goals head-to-head v Italy and Romania.

If France and Italy draw AND Romania avoid defeat, then Romania go through.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 457863.stm

Pan_Raider(`_´) · Post by **Pan_Raider(`_´)** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:04 pm

Trice wrote:GROUP C PERMUTATIONS

The Netherlands have won Group C and will play the Group D runners-up in the quarter-finals.

Romania will qualify for the quarter-finals if they beat the Netherlands, eliminating France and Italy.

If Romania fail to beat the Netherlands, the winner of France v Italy will go through.

If France and Italy draw, a point against the Netherlands would be enough to send Romania through. France must win to have any chance of qualifying.

If France and Italy share a score draw (1-1, 2-2, 3-3 etc), Italy will go through if Romania lose (by any score). In this scenario, Italy, Romania and France will be level on two points each but Italy would have scored more goals in games between the 3 teams.

Romania will finish bottom of the group if they lose and France and Italy draw 2-2, 3-3 or 4-4. France will finish bottom if they draw 1-1 unless Romania lose 3-0 or by a four-goal margin.

606: DEBATE
Who will qualify from Group C?
If France and Italy draw 0-0, Romania can lose by one goal, two goals or by a three-goal margin other than 3-0 but still qualify. In this scenario, Italy and Romania would have identical head-to-head records, but Romania would have better goal difference in ALL group matches or, in the case of the three-goal defeats, goals scored. France would finish bottom, having scored fewer goals head-to-head v Italy and Romania.

If Romania lose 3-0 to the Dutch, Italy would qualify with a 0-0 draw against France because of their superior coefficient points. France would finish bottom as they would have scored fewer goals head-to-head v Italy and Romania.

If Romania lose by four goals or more and the other game ends 0-0, Italy would proceed with a better overall goal difference than Romania. France would finish bottom as they would have scored fewer goals head-to-head v Italy and Romania.

If France and Italy draw AND Romania avoid defeat, then Romania go through.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 457863.stm

I'm not so into stochastic theories so i'll let the game speak for itself :twisted:

woutR · Post by **woutR** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:22 pm

holy shit, neighbours have gone into a frenzy and invited the entire church over (they're extremely catholic) and they're now screaming and riding in their son's pimped oranje-car including orange rims and a lot of 'welpies'.

[SD]Twysta · Post by **[SD]Twysta** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:24 pm

Hmm that clears it up(a bit), thanks guys.

Damn I used to be the only one who could calculate all this stuff back when I still played football (soccer for you Americans). Now I still don't quite get the way it's calculated.

Oh well, either way, today is going to be just for fun.
Their through and that's what really matters tbh.
Although it does kinda make sense, it might be better if they lose against Romania..

Anyway, down to the pub. Later guys enjoy the match

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:30 pm

this is gonna be an ugly game...

Jantje · Post by **Jantje** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:32 pm

I'll switch between Holland - Romania and Italy - France. They are both going to be boring I think.

Pan_Raider(`_´) · Post by **Pan_Raider(`_´)** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:43 pm

Jantje wrote:I'll switch between Holland - Romania and Italy - France. They are both going to be boring I think.

I can't watch Holland Romania :cry:

The only way to watch is with Premiere, but we cancelled the contract three weeks ago :banghead:

Post by **Stress** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:44 pm

It's starting soon.

Shitting my pants over here....

cin · Post by **cin** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:44 pm

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heroo · Post by **heroo** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:46 pm

Match started.

Our B-team is still the strongest team in our poul lol

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:03 pm

Jantje wrote:I'll switch between Holland - Romania and Italy - France. They are both going to be boring I think.

yea so damn boring, i might as well watch baseball.
some french guy just got sent off (red card) 24 min into the first half.
thats so damn early.

Trice · Post by **Trice** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:17 pm

Goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaala Pirlo!

If Dirk Kuyt makes sure holland win, i promise ill never make fun of him again.

MrBow · Post by **MrBow** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:30 pm

Trice wrote:Goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaala Pirlo!

If Dirk Kuyt makes sure holland win, i promise ill never make fun of him again.

hah he doesnt play. we have 8 new players in line up LOL
anyway i'm watching france - italy
holland - romania is a very bad game till now.

Leon · Post by **Leon** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:38 pm

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
Jantje wrote:I'll switch between Holland - Romania and Italy - France. They are both going to be boring I think.

I can't watch Holland Romania
The only way to watch is with Premiere, but we cancelled the contract three weeks ago

If you live in holland, go to: http://ek2008.nos.nl/live/livedubbel
If you don't well, I don't know

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