cali shooting, too much real life.

[Love]

In a scenario where everyone has a gun, he can kill one unsuspecting person without much problem ( like he could with a knife, or a stick ) not 6, that's the point .....

His power trip of I am the true alpha and I'll show you, I'll walk to you all lesser beings and bring death; simply doesnt work unless people are defenseless against him.

When it comes to killing people, had he chosen to go the serial killer route instead of the killing spree route weapon becomes meaningless, he could use a rock, bare hands, poison, stick, anything really to kill hundreds until his mistakes caught up to him, if they ever did.

[TheDrop]

He seems like a dumb kid that acted out of desperation, being a serial killer actually takes patience, skill and intelligence (not speaking out of experience).

And do you really want to live in a society where every altercation is one trigger pull away from resulting in deaths?

he could use a rock, bare hands, poison, stick, anything really to kill hundreds until his mistakes caught up to him, if they ever did.

Call a gun what it is and some comparing it to knives and pencils and oranges ffs.

[BuDo]

Well it's safe to say there will be more killings like this to come...It's one of this society's mode of operation....Shoot the people you don't like...Tons more crackpots waiting for their chance at "glory", "delusional justice" or "pleasure"...Just a matter of when...

[Love]

He seems like a dumb kid that acted out of desperation, being a serial killer actually takes patience, skill and intelligence (not speaking out of experience).

And do you really want to live in a society where every altercation is one trigger pull away from resulting in deaths?

he could use a rock, bare hands, poison, stick, anything really to kill hundreds until his mistakes caught up to him, if they ever did.

Call a gun what it is and some comparing it to knives and pencils and oranges ffs.

Yes I do, many rural civilization are one machete fight away from any confrontation and guess what, unless is a very Farking serious problem people respect each other.

You are out of your mind if you think you can defend yourself against a knife when not expecting it and if it's a sword or a machete and some1 wanted to go out like this, chances are that many people will die ( unless some1 in the room has a gun ironically enough ..... )

[Melez]

he was naive enough to take in bb's philosophy, and couple that with his pathetic desperation, it's not surprise.
he just needed a community that's not toxic or a psychiatrist who'd listen to him. hell, just a friend would've been enough.

[.curve]

this guy seems like he may have been gay and in heavy denial.. also that last video seems really forced, the pauses, tone, fake laughter. like he was trying to act out something he'd seen from a movie or an episode of criminal minds.

also he quoted WoW. UH OH VIDYA GAMES.

I caught the major gay vibes from this dude as well

[TheDrop]

Yes I do, many rural civilization are one machete fight away from any confrontation and guess what, unless is a very Farking serious problem people respect each other.

You are out of your mind if you think you can defend yourself against a knife when not expecting it and if it's a sword or a machete and some1 wanted to go out like this, chances are that many people will die ( unless some1 in the room has a gun ironically enough ..... )

We are not a rural civilization, and neither are guns machetes. Regardless, death tends to be far more common the further you go back in history, so what might be considered an accepted murder rate in the past would be considered very violent by today's (western) standards.

If you would rather take a bullet to the head than get stabbed in the chest, thats your choice. Jut stop comparing guns to knives.

[Love]

I like how your argument doesn't posses an argument, dog. Just empty statements, cool story, really.

[TheDrop]

Are you kidding me? You are the one comparing guns to knives and "rural civilizations" to modern day with no use of sources other than those from your anal cavities.

[Love]

You keep trying to respond to my use of rural civilizations but I don't think it means what you think it means ...............

Oh and yes, guns and knives are not comparable in any way, bursting genius once again. I also never asked for you to provide any sources, I only asked you make an argument, which were never made.

In conclusion nothing you say is particularly logical or rational after about 3 attempts to go at it. You're not another moron stating his very valuable opinion, really.

Good day.

[.curve]

Didn't he stab his three roommates before even starting the shooting?

Just goes to show that if someone has the intention to do harm to people, they will.

[Love]

You're wrong, he's a 120 pounds skinny fa.g, he couldn't do shit to the people typing on this forum.

[.curve]

You're wrong, he's a 120 pounds skinny fa.g, he couldn't do shit to the people typing on this forum.

I'm assuming this is sarcasm

[Love]

^^

Indeed.

I'll stop posting lol, I had my fun and is not like talking about these issues regardless of facts will make anyone see otherwise.

[.curve]

I mean it's literally just an entitled guy with mental health issues. He's the son of the Hunger Games producer, so he probably had most material things handed to him on a silver platter.

Girls were obviously the one thing he couldn't ask daddy for

Homosexually-repressed, entitled psycho snaps and kills people.

/thread?

[Love]

Glad at least someone realizes this is a broken mind, all this common talk has not connection to the kid. He lived in a world different from ours and we can't ever reach people in such a state.

[.curve]

Glad at least someone realizes this is a broken mind, all this common talk has not connection to the kid. He lived in a world different from ours and we can't ever reach people in such a state.

Well, if the authorities had actually acted on the reports by his parents about the weird videos then maybe this wouldn't have happened. Maybe they could at least have started him on a path towards recovery.

I think the police are at least partially to blame. If someone's sending you disturbed videos and saying hey this guy might need help, you act on that

[*BlackFox]

The mind can become a weapon..
Broken mind, perhaps even "want a gun"... That's the dangerous truth of it!

[Love]

Glad at least someone realizes this is a broken mind, all this common talk has not connection to the kid. He lived in a world different from ours and we can't ever reach people in such a state.

Well, if the authorities had actually acted on the reports by his parents about the weird videos then maybe this wouldn't have happened. Maybe they could at least have started him on a path towards recovery.

I think the police are at least partially to blame. If someone's sending you disturbed videos and saying hey this guy might need help, you act on that

He possessed intelligence to talk his way out of this and status, no incarnation of the police force had much of a chance against those two factors. Real damage to this kid was done long ago when his parents abandoned him ( he specially needed them ), the past few years by himself only served for him to compile his disorder, not to cause it.

So if you really want to save this kid, your solutions is good parents which he did not posses and thats truth for nearly all the issues we are facing today.

[BuDo]

Even though I'm more against gun ownership there are good arguments for it as there are good arguments against it...I guess it boils down to the social atmosphere you live in...If its rather violent then sure pack a pistol, if it's not too violent then there is no need...

The real problem is the society in which you live...These crazy people who go on killing sprees were manufactured in the home... That's where the problem starts and needs to be addressed early on.....

[TheDrop]

You keep trying to respond to my use of rural civilizations but I don't think it means what you think it means ...............

Oh and yes, guns and knives are not comparable in any way, bursting genius once again. I also never asked for you to provide any sources, I only asked you make an argument, which were never made.

In conclusion nothing you say is particularly logical or rational after about 3 attempts to go at it. You're not another moron stating his very valuable opinion, really.

Good day.

My argument is that knives, melee objects with a cutting edge, aren't as fatal, efficient or tested as guns, ranged weapons that discharge projectiles with the use of gunpowder, and that I'd much rather have a psycho running around with a knife than a gun. Now if you haven't been able to grasp that idea throughout the whole thread then you might as well be retarded. Have a nice day to you too.

[Love]

So we live in lalala land where we put something into paper and it becomes reality, that's great because I live in california/us where is impossible to prevent someone from acquiring a gun; unless you are a law abiding citizen that is in which case chances are that to your discomfort you will comply, you know for the whole consequences thing you actually care about thing.

Which leads to the following, 5 realistic scenarios:

guns vs unarmed
knife vs unarmed
gun vs gun
knife vs gun
knife vs knife

Realistically speaking some1 who wants to go out on a killing spree can find unarmed people which means they can and will hurt people, the weapon of choice has little to do with it because many people will get hurt unavoidably, you can't outlaw being a kamikaze. So the point of banning guns to prevents killing sprees is a silly one and yes a well trained gun will has the chance to hurt more unarmed people but that doesn't mean much considering the alternative, let's go over those alternatives.

If no guns are allowed and is knife only ( ignoring the fact that guns can't be banned from criminals ), the attacker can kill one person and perhaps two right away before people realize what is going on. After that comes the problem, to defend yourself with a knife vs another knife is extremely dangerous and chances are that even if you hurt your attacker lethally you will sustain some serious injuries if not lethal yourself, there is also the fact that the attacker can kill you before your blade touches him not making a successful defense.

In the case of gun vs gun you can probably kill about 2 as well except that is where it ends, it is extremely unlikely that you could survive for more than a couple of seconds against 2-3 armed people in the room and that's the whole point.

Laws simply can't do ANYTHING AT ALL for unarmed civilians ( other than make them perfect prey ), whether they be for or against it means little, the only changing outcome comes from armed victims. In the case of killing sprees where they simply are not preventable under our configuration of modern society the 4 incidents that happen every decade are simply unavoidable because the individuals performing them have no regards for themselves, others, or the rules the world lives by.

This is my last response, as well written as it is. I wanted to make some points but finals are happening in two weeks and that's where my time is going.

Good luck being the perfect victim.

[Aventus]

I love how gun control is always seen as gun banning, that is not the point of gun control. You both are arguing a completely invalid argument. People want background checks and mental evaluations for you to be able to own a gun. I think that's very reasonable.

Also this kids a mental case we need to make it much easier to get mental health care, this kid clearly needed it.

[.curve]

I love how gun control is always seen as gun banning, that is not the point of gun control. You both are arguing a completely invalid argument. People want background checks and mental evaluations for you to be able to own a gun. I think that's very reasonable.

Also this kids a mental case we need to make it much easier to get mental health care, this kid clearly needed it.

Because a criminal doesn't need a background check or psych eval to own a gun.

Putting regulations on how average, law abiding citizens obtain guns only makes them an easier target to the criminal who bought his gun on the street.

I'm all for less strict gun control but way better firearm/self defense education for anyone who does purchase a gun legally. Teach people how and when to use a gun, teach them gun safety, teach them to be responsible with this tool and I think we'd see a drop in gun related crimes. If everyone has a gun, and mostly everyone knows how to use it, it suddenly becomes a lot more dangerous for criminals to commit crimes with them.

[TheDrop]

@Love I'm not gonna bother the wall you just posted as far as I see it has nothing to do with what have been saying. I haven't and won't bother advocating for gun control in this thread, the American people are too stubborn and/or thick skilled and we all know no gun control legislation will ever be passed anyways.

All I am refuting is this bullshit theory that "someone who's gonna kill with a gun will kill with a knife anyway" spouted by your national fucktards such as Hannity and that "an armed society is a polite society" which seems to assume that humans are rational beings that only use guns responsibly and/or when at risk of death.

http://bringmethenews.com/2014/06/02/ne ... ride-bike/

[DarkJackal]

Yes, we all know that its the evil gun making a person kill people with it. Without the bad ole gun the person is just fine and normal of course.



Drop, you think that guy pulling a shotgun on the father is normal or wouldn't of threatened him if he didn't have a gun? lol

I bet the shotgun was calling to him, "draaaaaake" it said in an eerie whisper. "draaaaake, use meee" he couldn't take it any longer and rushed inside to get it and bring it out, "shooooot heeeeem" it said. But Drake was just barely able to resist long enough for his wife to come out and stop him, fortunately for the father, the evil gun did not win this time. But who knows when the next gun will claim it's victim.

( •_•)

[TheDrop]

Holy shit you have to be trolling.

Guy threatening you

Guy threatening you with a Farking shotgun

I am Farking done with this thread, I am not sure if you guys are too thick to see the Farking difference or you cover your eyes and go "LALALALALAA", regardless there is no point arguing with your retarded logic.

And where did I say its the gun that kills. I said that people are farked up in general and you can't expect them to responsibly use firearms without casualties, and that I would much rather face an unarmed madman than one with a Farking gun.

[BuDo]

I love how gun control is always seen as gun banning, that is not the point of gun control. You both are arguing a completely invalid argument. People want background checks and mental evaluations for you to be able to own a gun. I think that's very reasonable.

Also this kids a mental case we need to make it much easier to get mental health care, this kid clearly needed it.

What about this kid's lifestyle made you believe it was hard for him to get mental health care...

[Love]

@IQdrop
You remain a complete non moron, don't worry.

I am glad it's been pointed out that you can't prevent bad people from acquiring guns .............

[BuDo]

@TheDrop & Love:

The only clear answer in my mind is how a society is molded...Some societies are living proof that having guns isn't necessary at all....Something about their sociological construct (culture, values and beliefs)...While other societies wouldn't do well without having guns....Again something about their sociological construct (culture, values and beliefs)...