Homosexuality

[strangelove]

Immoral probably, wrong yes. lets cast religion aside and look at this logically. we have evolved from lower a form to a high form to a higher form right?? in order for that to happen; for us to continue to move forward as a society/species we must continue to grow in numbers. for this to happen mating must occur. this cant be accomplished with a wang in the anus. (no homo) homosexuality in general slows the evolution of humanity, it prevents growth. its scientifically wrong.

the manner in with our reproductive organs achieve pleasure isnt so much an issue as much as our natural need to reproduce.

/my thoughts.



edit: i see the word hate and the phrase "hates homosexuals" a lot in the last several posts. this thread isnt about hatred towards anyone. its a matter of do you think "same sex relationships are right or wrong?" this doesn't need to turn onto a gay bashing, martyring homosexual thread. simple question. simple answer.

The most obvious blunder I see with this argument is that straight people don't always have sex for the pure intention of procreating, with immediate intention to father a child. More than often, sex is these days is usually for the sole purpose of having fun and having new experiences with people. And what about those who are infertile? Must they live a life of celibacy because they can't contribute to the evolution of man? In the animal kingdom, those species that practice same-sex intercourse will also stop evolving? It's also far from being scientifically wrong because science itself has proven homosexuality to be something that occurs naturally in many different species. But homosexuality in man is different than in animals because man does not have natural enemies other than man itself, and an increased birth rate and the ever-advancing field of medicine would lead to overpopulation and ultimately self-destruction of man.

And speaking about man evolving- how so? Evolutionally, man is finished. The only ways is can expand is through intelligence, strength, health, etc. But it doesn't get much more complex than that. Homosexuality will not wane this process.

[daemon225]

Immoral probably, wrong yes. lets cast religion aside and look at this logically. we have evolved from lower a form to a high form to a higher form right?? in order for that to happen; for us to continue to move forward as a society/species we must continue to grow in numbers. for this to happen mating must occur. this cant be accomplished with a wang in the anus. (no homo) homosexuality in general slows the evolution of humanity, it prevents growth. its scientifically wrong.

the manner in with our reproductive organs achieve pleasure isnt so much an issue as much as our natural need to reproduce.

/my thoughts.

+1

edit: i see the word hate and the phrase "hates homosexuals" a lot in the last several posts. this thread isnt about hatred towards anyone. its a matter of do you think "same sex relationships are right or wrong?" this doesn't need to turn onto a gay bashing, martyring homosexual thread. simple question. simple answer.

The most obvious blunder I see with this argument is that straight people don't always have sex for the pure intention of procreating, with immediate intention to father a child. More than often, sex is these days is usually for the sole purpose of having fun and having new experiences with people. And what about those who are infertile? Must they live a life of celibacy because they can't contribute to the evolution of man? In the animal kingdom, those species that practice same-sex intercourse will also stop evolving? It's also far from being scientifically wrong because science itself has proven homosexuality to be something that occurs naturally in many different species. But homosexuality in man is different than in animals because man does not have natural enemies other than man itself, and an increased birth rate and the ever-advancing field of medicine would lead to overpopulation and ultimately self-destruction of man.

And speaking about man evolving- how so? Evolutionally, man is finished. The only ways is can expand is through intelligence, strength, health, etc. But it doesn't get much more complex than that. Homosexuality will not wane this process.

[Judge]

CAUTION: tl;dr WARNING

Several people are heading in the same direction so I'll tie your points together.

A biological process is a process of a living organism. Biological processes are made up of any number of chemical reactions or other events that results in a transformation.

The malfunction that causes homosexuality in male and female animals [humans included] would be considered a biological process. Don't get this confused with traditional Darwinism.

Being homosexual is NOT a choice, having homosexual sex is a choice

Bi is more of a choice. Your either gay or straight which gives you strong desires towards a sex, but you can also choose to mess around with the other sex. A guy can be gay, never want to marry, but still like to have sex with a woman, just never have a serious relationship with a woman, only men.

I'll elaborate; being homosexual is not a choice because among the esteemed scientific community it is considered nothing more than a biological defect because man is meant to be attracted to the opposite sex and by by being attracted to the same sex due to a malfunctioning hypothalamus it would be considered a "defect". Although defects occur naturally if they don't aid in the survival or are counterproductive to the survival of a species they can be labeled [biologically] "wrong". Clearing the air: It is not scientifically wrong, it is biologically wrong.

Having homosexual sex is a choice. Just as easily as a straight man can choose never to have sex (celibate) a gay man can choose the same, therefore even though he is considered homosexual he can choose never to have homosexual sex. In reality you're either gay or straight... Bi people are just being greedy

Now is it morally wrong (e.g.) immoral? Well, to be frank, I don't have the jurisdiction to make such a decision nor does any other person.

Girls tend to choose it..

Girls tend to choose homosexual activities, but they don't choose to "be" homosexual (e.g.) they can't make their hypothalamus the same shape as ours (males).

Well if you were able to choose whether your son or daughter was gay or not before he was born would you choose to make him straight? As in altering his genes or some sh1t if it was possible.

I wouldn't want my child to robbed of his/her civil liberties for being a homosexual, but I don't have a right to change his/her predetermined sexual attraction. The chances are so low : 2-4% and 3-6%, I think the majority of us don't have to be worried.

I would want him/her to be straight cause homosexual people are unfairly scrutinized against when its not even their choice to be homosexual or straight.

yes, but is it your choice? Do you have the right, and by whose will?

Comparing homosexuality to pinkies is about as ridiculous as it gets.

They both do nothing to aid our survival.

i blame religion

QFT

@blood, use the word "reasoning" rather than "logic" [you asked for another word]

Seriously if you're all for gays and then you sh1t your pants at the thought of incest you're a huge hypocrite.
As long as they aren't trying to have children who the fck should care if they fck their family?

Everything that can be said for/against homo can be said for/against incest.

Morally wrong? Says who?
Sick? Well not to the ones who are doing it.
Not normal? Well neither is liking the same sex.
etc..

(no incest)(no homo)

Although incest is looked down upon it can't be considered [biologically] wrong, homosexuality can. No-one has the right to determine what is morally wrong and right, there are absolutes, the best we can do is live by them.

Conclusion:
Homosexuality = [Biologically] Wrong because it is a defect [a mild one because it doesn't hurt nor aid the species, its just there]
Homosexuality =/= [Scientifically] Wrong because science has labeled it as a naturally occurring defect in a minute amount of animal species.
Homosexuality =/= [Morally] Wrong because the moral absolutes that Humans everywhere are capable of coming up with do not label homosexuality, hell, they don't mention homosexuality and even if they did what right do we have to condemn someone for just living and being who they are?

And that concludes this thread? Can I have a cookie now?

[BloodOwnzzz]

Lulz you found another word... -_-...

Seriously though. Incest is mostly illegal and being Gay isn't. I really hate this point it is really insulting. And I'm sure it is not only me who considers incest a whole lot worse than being gay, I'm sure even gay haters will see it this way too. Neither might be morally wrong but 1 is illegal and since most incest is pedophilia it's even worse. I find pedophilia to be morally wrong, whether or not that is possible it is just sickening, and to be even remotely compared to that is a huge insult.

[Barotix]

Lulz you found another word... -_-...

Seriously though. Incest is mostly illegal and being Gay isn't. I really hate this point it is really insulting. And I'm sure it is not only me who considers incest a whole lot worse than being gay, I'm sure even gay haters will see it this way too. Neither might be morally wrong but 1 is illegal and since most incest is pedophilia it's even worse. I find pedophilia to be morally wrong, whether or not that is possible it is just sickening, and to be even remotely compared to that is a huge insult.

Incest is illegal because it cause all kinds of defects. Its just having incest and concieving children you're practically asking for a mentally/physically retarded child. Incest causes mutations, sometimes the mutations are good (evolution) sometimes they're hella bad (retardation). In most cases its hella bad, and thats why people can't fck their cousins.

[Pilot]

Immoral probably, wrong yes. lets cast religion aside and look at this logically. we have evolved from lower a form to a high form to a higher form right?? in order for that to happen; for us to continue to move forward as a society/species we must continue to grow in numbers. for this to happen mating must occur. this cant be accomplished with a wang in the anus. (no homo) homosexuality in general slows the evolution of humanity, it prevents growth. its scientifically wrong.

the manner in with our reproductive organs achieve pleasure isnt so much an issue as much as our natural need to reproduce.

Exactly. Just think about it for a moment. Do you think God/religion/nature really meant it for two organisms of the same sex to be having social and sexual relations? Certainly no. Natural defect or not, its just wrong. God/religion/nature never meant it to be this way. As the dominant, most intelligent species, only humans have conjured up the idea of existing homosexual relations in a normal society. I'm also surprised that either side of this debate hasn't brought up any topics on homosexuality in other species and its increasingly bigger focus from scientists and psychologists.

If God/religion/nature had really meant it for heterosexuals and homosexuals to be living in harmony, homophobic attitudes would not be automatically instilled for many people.


The best way to settle the argument whether gayness is a birth "defect" or a choice by gays is to ask a gay himself whether he/she chose to be or not.

And yes, I can pity and be understanding of gays simultaneously. Pity, because of whatever bigotry you will/have faced in your life, and understanding if it was something you could never do anything about.

When people don't want gays near them, its usually because of the AIDS/HIV issue. Either that, its just a derogatory comment.

[BloodOwnzzz]

Immoral probably, wrong yes. lets cast religion aside and look at this logically. we have evolved from lower a form to a high form to a higher form right?? in order for that to happen; for us to continue to move forward as a society/species we must continue to grow in numbers. for this to happen mating must occur. this cant be accomplished with a wang in the anus. (no homo) homosexuality in general slows the evolution of humanity, it prevents growth. its scientifically wrong.

the manner in with our reproductive organs achieve pleasure isnt so much an issue as much as our natural need to reproduce.

Exactly. Just think about it for a moment. Do you think God/religion/nature really meant it for two organisms of the same sex to be having social and sexual relations? Certainly no. Natural defect or not, its just wrong. God/religion/nature never meant it to be this way. As the dominant, most intelligent species, only humans have conjured up the idea of existing homosexual relations in a normal society. I'm also surprised that either side of this debate hasn't brought up any topics on homosexuality in other species and its increasingly bigger focus from scientists and psychologists.

If God/religion/nature had really meant it for heterosexuals and homosexuals to be living in harmony, homophobic attitudes would not be automatically instilled for many people.


The best way to settle the argument whether gayness is a birth "defect" or a choice by gays is to ask a gay himself whether he/she chose to be or not.

And yes, I can pity and be understanding of gays simultaneously. Pity, because of whatever bigotry you will/have faced in your life, and understanding if it was something you could never do anything about.

When people don't want gays near them, its usually because of the AIDS/HIV issue. Either that, its just a derogatory comment.

God and Religion are not real... They are simply beliefs and that is it. If they were we wouldn't have more than one religion...

And what do you mean by there should never be social homosexual relations? You are saying 2 men or women, straight or gay, should never hang out with each other by saying that...

[DaZzY]

Lulz you found another word... -_-...

Seriously though. Incest is mostly illegal and being Gay isn't. I really hate this point it is really insulting. And I'm sure it is not only me who considers incest a whole lot worse than being gay, I'm sure even gay haters will see it this way too. Neither might be morally wrong but 1 is illegal and since most incest is pedophilia it's even worse. I find pedophilia to be morally wrong, whether or not that is possible it is just sickening, and to be even remotely compared to that is a huge insult.

Incest is illegal because it cause all kinds of defects. Its just having incest and concieving children you're practically asking for a mentally/physically retarded child. Incest causes mutations, sometimes the mutations are good (evolution) sometimes they're hella bad (retardation). In most cases its hella bad, and thats why people can't fck their cousins.

+1, My mums friend married her cousin and they children are disabled

[Qosta420]

i dont give a fucck about who you fucck or who they are. its simply not my bussiness or my place to judge. if being gay is what makes you happy then so be it. to guys or girls hooking up with each other does nothing that hurts anyone else so why the hell not?

[Qosta420]

Immoral probably, wrong yes. lets cast religion aside and look at this logically. we have evolved from lower a form to a high form to a higher form right?? in order for that to happen; for us to continue to move forward as a society/species we must continue to grow in numbers. for this to happen mating must occur. this cant be accomplished with a wang in the anus. (no homo) homosexuality in general slows the evolution of humanity, it prevents growth. its scientifically wrong.

the manner in with our reproductive organs achieve pleasure isnt so much an issue as much as our natural need to reproduce.

Exactly. Just think about it for a moment. Do you think God/religion/nature really meant it for two organisms of the same sex to be having social and sexual relations? Certainly no. Natural defect or not, its just wrong. God/religion/nature never meant it to be this way. As the dominant, most intelligent species, only humans have conjured up the idea of existing homosexual relations in a normal society. I'm also surprised that either side of this debate hasn't brought up any topics on homosexuality in other species and its increasingly bigger focus from scientists and psychologists.

If God/religion/nature had really meant it for heterosexuals and homosexuals to be living in harmony, homophobic attitudes would not be automatically instilled for many people.


The best way to settle the argument whether gayness is a birth "defect" or a choice by gays is to ask a gay himself whether he/she chose to be or not.

And yes, I can pity and be understanding of gays simultaneously. Pity, because of whatever bigotry you will/have faced in your life, and understanding if it was something you could never do anything about.

When people don't want gays near them, its usually because of the AIDS/HIV issue. Either that, its just a derogatory comment.

God and Religion are not real... They are simply beliefs and that is it. If they were we wouldn't have more than one religion...

And what do you mean by there should never be social homosexual relations? You are saying 2 men or women, straight or gay, should never hang out with each other by saying that...

all species of animals have found to have homosexual members. its not exclusive to humans.

[Stallowned]

Lulz you found another word... -_-...

Seriously though. Incest is mostly illegal and being Gay isn't. I really hate this point it is really insulting. And I'm sure it is not only me who considers incest a whole lot worse than being gay, I'm sure even gay haters will see it this way too. Neither might be morally wrong but 1 is illegal and since most incest is pedophilia it's even worse. I find pedophilia to be morally wrong, whether or not that is possible it is just sickening, and to be even remotely compared to that is a huge insult.

There's a lot of damn flaws in your argument.
What if incest was legal, would you be fine with it then?
What if homo was illegal, would you still be fine with it? If yes why would you be fine doing this illegal act but not the other?

You're just trying to falsely justify your double standards by throwing in that incest is usually done to young children. I'm safely assuming everyone else is talking about incest between two consenting adults.

If I were to base my arguments against gays on my assumption they will try to rape straight men or underage boys makes just as much sense as yours.

[strangelove]

Exactly. Just think about it for a moment. Do you think God/religion/nature really meant it for two organisms of the same sex to be having social and sexual relations? Certainly no. Natural defect or not, its just wrong. God/religion/nature never meant it to be this way. As the dominant, most intelligent species, only humans have conjured up the idea of existing homosexual relations in a normal society. I'm also surprised that either side of this debate hasn't brought up any topics on homosexuality in other species and its increasingly bigger focus from scientists and psychologists.

It's already been mentioned several times that homosexual behavior is indeed present in species other than humans, so the whole argument that it isn't natural holds moot reasoning.

If God/religion/nature had really meant it for heterosexuals and homosexuals to be living in harmony, homophobic attitudes would not be automatically instilled for many people.

The media is usually the culprit behind introducing and spouting homophobia to the masses, thus instilling the idea that homosexuality is wrong or whatever. People aren't born being homophobic unless an outside influence teaches them otherwise.

The best way to settle the argument whether gayness is a birth "defect" or a choice by gays is to ask a gay himself whether he/she chose to be or not.

Many people are KILLED just because of their sexual orientation. Why would anyone want that? But here's my story anyway. Growing up, I personally felt different. It was not something that could be seen by other people . I found myself oddly attracted to the same sex (males). As I grew older, I then understood what this was and I was. I also don't think my environment influenced me to be gay or anything. The environment I was raised in was one that preached how homosexually was wrong, and I was like 6-7 years old so it's not I chose to be gay to rebel or anything.

When people don't want gays near them, its usually because of the AIDS/HIV issue. Either that, its just a derogatory comment.

This takes the cake right here. I was quickly scanning through the post and had to stop and sit in amazement at the amount of ignorance that is in that sentence. Then it occurred to me that there are people in the world that actually think like this! AIDS IS NOT CONTAGIOUS! Unless you accidentally had sex with someone who has AIDS, you're pretty much safe from ever contracting the disease. It's not as if someone who came out of the closet automatically contracts HIV out of the blue or anything. And it's certainly not only homosexuals that can become victims to AIDS anyway.

I'm gonna go stick my dick in oven. It'll be less painful that having to read crap like this. =]

[BloodOwnzzz]

Lulz you found another word... -_-...

Seriously though. Incest is mostly illegal and being Gay isn't. I really hate this point it is really insulting. And I'm sure it is not only me who considers incest a whole lot worse than being gay, I'm sure even gay haters will see it this way too. Neither might be morally wrong but 1 is illegal and since most incest is pedophilia it's even worse. I find pedophilia to be morally wrong, whether or not that is possible it is just sickening, and to be even remotely compared to that is a huge insult.

There's a lot of damn flaws in your argument.
What if incest was legal, would you be fine with it then?
What if homo was illegal, would you still be fine with it? If yes why would you be fine doing this illegal act but not the other?

You're just trying to falsely justify your double standards by throwing in that incest is usually done to young children. I'm safely assuming everyone else is talking about incest between two consenting adults.

If I were to base my arguments against gays on my assumption they will try to rape straight men or underage boys makes just as much sense as yours.

Being gay is not illegal where incest is. If it was illegal then it is the same as it is now... just illegal. If you truly can't control it then it is something that will happen. Incest would still be as wrong to me whether or not it was legal. I didn't bring up the illegal part at first. But it is just another point to show that gay =/= incest.

And in reality, and I'm sure you don't mean this, you are supporting incest just as I'm supporting myself and all other gays. It could be the way you say it, but it isn't and that is one factor for why I'm anti-incest and pro-gay but it is not the whole story...

And yes there is incest between adults but that isn't how it always is. And to know how it mostly is/can be and be compared to it... I'm bringing these points because it is not getting through. You guys bring up points like they are not trying to have children either so they are the same... But it's not. You are insulting me on a personal level by saying this.

[CrimsonNuker]

Lulz you found another word... -_-...

Seriously though. Incest is mostly illegal and being Gay isn't. I really hate this point it is really insulting. And I'm sure it is not only me who considers incest a whole lot worse than being gay, I'm sure even gay haters will see it this way too. Neither might be morally wrong but 1 is illegal and since most incest is pedophilia it's even worse. I find pedophilia to be morally wrong, whether or not that is possible it is just sickening, and to be even remotely compared to that is a huge insult.

Incest is illegal because it cause all kinds of defects. Its just having incest and concieving children you're practically asking for a mentally/physically retarded child. Incest causes mutations, sometimes the mutations are good (evolution) sometimes they're hella bad (retardation). In most cases its hella bad, and thats why people can't fck their cousins.

Speaking about fucking your cousins..the other day, at the end of class, my friends told me this guy in my computer class' parents were cousins...which was enough to make me puke (first 3 words that came out of my mouth were "WHAT THE FUCK?" then my teacher looked at me with an angry look lol)

And speaking of homosexuality..LUL

[XemnasXD]

Immoral probably, wrong yes. lets cast religion aside and look at this logically. we have evolved from lower a form to a high form to a higher form right?? in order for that to happen; for us to continue to move forward as a society/species we must continue to grow in numbers. for this to happen mating must occur. this cant be accomplished with a wang in the anus. (no homo) homosexuality in general slows the evolution of humanity, it prevents growth. its scientifically wrong.

the manner in with our reproductive organs achieve pleasure isnt so much an issue as much as our natural need to reproduce.

Exactly. Just think about it for a moment. Do you think God/religion/nature really meant it for two organisms of the same sex to be having social and sexual relations? Certainly no. Natural defect or not, its just wrong. God/religion/nature never meant it to be this way. As the dominant, most intelligent species, only humans have conjured up the idea of existing homosexual relations in a normal society. I'm also surprised that either side of this debate hasn't brought up any topics on homosexuality in other species and its increasingly bigger focus from scientists and psychologists.

If God/religion/nature had really meant it for heterosexuals and homosexuals to be living in harmony, homophobic attitudes would not be automatically instilled for many people.


The best way to settle the argument whether gayness is a birth "defect" or a choice by gays is to ask a gay himself whether he/she chose to be or not.

And yes, I can pity and be understanding of gays simultaneously. Pity, because of whatever bigotry you will/have faced in your life, and understanding if it was something you could never do anything about.

When people don't want gays near them, its usually because of the AIDS/HIV issue. Either that, its just a derogatory comment.

I did bring up homosexuality in animals and there the behavior is quite tolerated. Homophobic attitudes aren't instilled in people auto-matically its nurtured overtime. A 5 year old would have no problem playing with another gay 5 year old. Homosexuality is as natural occurring phenomenon as heterosexuality and has existed long b4 humans even came into play and it was accepted long b4 humans came into play. Not saying God/nature too because those are 2 completely different things and don't follow the same guidelines at all. Is it normal yes (over 500 million years of evolution says its normal). Is it right or wrong, those are just judgments ppl have no reason to pass. Because homosexuality is a natural occurring event saying its wrong is the same thing as saying Albinos are wrong. There are ppl who are born homosexual and there are ppl who are born heterosexual its been that way for awhile and if your going to bring God into the mix since he created everything and knows everything blame him for creating homosexuals and chalk it up to his great plan for everything.

We as humans have decided to deemed homosexual behavior immoral and wrong for reason that are actually quite stupid because the same reason for condemning homosexuality can be applied to things that are socially acceptable today. If you want to say its counter productive to procreation its not because the rates of homosexuals are so low it'll never overtake the rate of heterosexuals not to mention that doing drugs, drinking alcohol, smoking, Marriage, Illegalizing rape, etc. All of these things impede the male from mating with as many women as possible which is the natural may to keep the species going.

[agent420]

Seriously if you're all for gays and then you sh1t your pants at the thought of incest you're a huge hypocrite.
As long as they aren't trying to have children who the fck should care if they fck their family?

Everything that can be said for/against homo can be said for/against incest.

Morally wrong? Says who?
Sick? Well not to the ones who are doing it.
Not normal? Well neither is liking the same sex.
etc..

(no incest)(no homo)

speaking of incest...a good friend of mine's wife divorced him...for her brother. nasty shit!!! i guess they tke extreme precautions about the pregnancy stuff, but still...c'mon...its her brother. she is a singer and was performing at an event my wife and i were at yesterday. we were walking backstage to talk to some of our friends that were playing the same show and we saw them making out. i almost puked. my wife kept tugging on my arm like a little kid and saying..."thats her brother!" it felt kinda like eurotrip minus the green fairy! it was funny and gross at the same time, and it made beer shoot out of my nose when i first saw the scenario playing out in front of me. the worst part is, a few minutes later they came over to us and said hi. luckily, my beer was running low so we had an excuse to get away from their nasty asses...


back to the gay talk...here is a pictographic representation of my likes and dislikes!

HOT:






NASTY:









and last but not least...

[Fat_Smurf]

rofl agent dont like bears

[maxietheboss]

Well i have no problem with it as long as they dont make out in front of me XD

[Grimm-.-]

I think its fine...I have few gay friends...They are all really cool people,

[ghostkilla43]

lawls nice pics.

and im not for it, but i wont say im not against it

[BloodOwnzzz]

Those gay pics were pretty disgusting tbh... And I really don' feel like any of those girls are actually lesbians either...

[ghostkilla43]

Those gay pics were pretty disgusting tbh... And I really don' feel like any of those girls are actually lesbians either...

does it matter? they are t3h hot

[StuckUP]

homosexuality is purely biological. there is nothing anyone can do about it. people don't choose to be gay or straight, they just are. thats all I'm gonna type in this topic, I have a tendency to flame at ignorance.

Conclusively, homosexuality is a question of genes, right?
Homosexuals have the right to freely act, as their genes order them to. Let us suppose we are standing face to face right now, and I have a naturally born killer gene. Am I empowered to kill you, having the right to act as my genes order me to?

So you are saying that homosexuals should not act out what their genes tell them to? So if you have these "genes" you should just live like every other straight couple?( If I misread pardon me, but I just don't feel like combing this thread for any previous comments you've made)

[StuckUP]

homosexuality is purely biological. there is nothing anyone can do about it. people don't choose to be gay or straight, they just are. thats all I'm gonna type in this topic, I have a tendency to flame at ignorance.

Conclusively, homosexuality is a question of genes, right?
Homosexuals have the right to freely act, as their genes order them to. Let us suppose we are standing face to face right now, and I have a naturally born killer gene. Am I empowered to kill you, having the right to act as my genes order me to?

So you are saying that homosexuals should not act out what their genes tell them to? So if you have these "genes" you should just live like every other straight couple?( If I misread pardon me, but I just don't feel like combing this thread for any previous comments you've made)

[quote="agent420"]



OMG THAT'S JUST NASTY
and last but not least...



lol lol lol especially at Clay Aiken

[Nuklear]

Still agree with Stall. Blood's ignorance of incest and total acceptance of homosexuality makes my head spin.

[XemnasXD]

they're not the same. They have very little in common. I don't see how you guys keep relating the two. Incest is a consensual or none consensual relationship between family members that often is related to a deep psychological issue or simply normal human behavior ; having sex. I already said the incest is probably more common and is a more natural thing especially if it involves heterosexual sex. I don't get how your linking the 2 the only thing they have in common is they involves sex and that can apply to alot of human activities including ones that are considered safe and ones that are considered deviant.

[BloodOwnzzz]

Still agree with Stall. Blood's ignorance of incest and total acceptance of homosexuality makes my head spin.

My total acceptance comes from me being gay...

[Stallowned]

Still agree with Stall. Blood's ignorance of incest and total acceptance of homosexuality makes my head spin.

My total acceptance comes from me being gay...

Well then why do you get angry at straight people who don't accept gays if you can't do the same for others?

[TOloseGT]

spartan soldiers had sex with spartan soldiers, spartan women had sex with spartan women, nuff said

[Reise]

Why the hell are you guys even talking about incest? You can spend all day trying to rationalize it but it's still going to be sick.