Need help buying new comp :)

[SD]Kratos · Post by **[SD]Kratos** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:58 pm

HEy guys

first of all plz dont go like "build it yourself", i cant, im teh noobz. lol

I want to buy a new comp which would make me able to play smoothly without dcing/restarting/lagging and so on

My problem is i dont know shit about gfx cards and processors!!!

Here's the comp im looking at, and seems nice, plz tell me what you think

processor intel dual core E2140 / 1.6GHz

2 xDDR2 1 Go 667MHz RAM (KINGSTON)

Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT 256 Mo Twintech

All this for 564€ I already have a monitor, mouse and keyboard aint a problem.

Is it good for its price??

Thx

heroo · Post by **heroo** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:42 pm

go for a better graphics card.

like the 8800 GT

gamef · Post by **gamef** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:06 pm

I think its a good deal, the gfx card is pretty decent if you want to run the game on high settings then yeh your better off with 8800 gt/gtx. Btw is it xp or vista? Cause i hear vista eats chunks of the ram to run.

[SD]Kratos · Post by **[SD]Kratos** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:22 pm

gamef wrote:I think its a good deal, the gfx card is pretty decent if you want to run the game on high settings then yeh your better off with 8800 gt/gtx. Btw is it xp or vista? Cause i hear vista eats chunks of the ram to run.

Yeah its a problem, but i heard on vista u can put a usb key and make so its used as RAM :o

Post by **dom** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:24 pm

[SD]Kratos wrote:
gamef wrote:I think its a good deal, the gfx card is pretty decent if you want to run the game on high settings then yeh your better off with 8800 gt/gtx. Btw is it xp or vista? Cause i hear vista eats chunks of the ram to run.

Yeah its a problem, but i heard on vista u can put a usb key and make so its used as RAM :o

I had that option when I plugged in my usb key, but I don't think 2.0 ports would be able to quickly handle the data transfer like a normal stick of ram would.

You can buy really cheap ram off the internet, for the same price (if not cheaper) than an equal sized USB stick.

Also, don't try running vista without atleast 2gb of ram, if you're going to be using anything: office tools, games, etc. - I would suggest you get more than that 2gb.

[SD]Kratos · Post by **[SD]Kratos** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:26 pm

hhhmm im not plannign to run games in high settings ya know. i'll play in the settings that doesnt lag. im used to crappy gfx so, not a problem

2 gig with vista, only sro and xfire (sro in decent setting) would that be unplayable?

Post by **dom** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:42 pm

[SD]Kratos wrote:hhhmm im not plannign to run games in high settings ya know. i'll play in the settings that doesnt lag. im used to crappy gfx so, not a problem

2 gig with vista, only sro and xfire (sro in decent setting) would that be unplayable?

It's runable - expect slow downs and system lag (as opposed to game lag)

I don't know why people always have that attitude regarding new computers; it's not worth blowing several hundred dollars to get something mediocre or bad - why don't you just wait a month, save up some money (find a job if you don't have one), spend a bit more and get something worth the money you spend.

If you really want to save money and don't care about performance, then don't waste your money on going half way. Buy a cheap motherboard+processor bundle, use the integrated graphics card - recycle your ram, powersupply, and cd drives.

[SD]Kratos · Post by **[SD]Kratos** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:14 pm

Well, i do care about performance, i just mean no lag in low settings

This comp lags even if i play solitaire so =/

Ofc its appreciated if i cna play in good settings :p I'm not the type of person who play, watch TV , downloads and speak on msn same time anyways...I shouldnt eat much RAM...

So to conclude i better search something else/economize a bit more?

Jstar1 · Post by **Jstar1** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:26 pm

hope your not buying it for silkroad online cause that would just lame.

whats your RAM

and your graphics card is good but having an 8800 is better but unless you wanna play cod4 or crysis on the highest graphics I think its ok

[SD]Kratos · Post by **[SD]Kratos** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:28 pm

Jstar1 wrote:hope your not buying it for silkroad online cause that would just lame.

? Wanna explain more?

Jstar1 wrote:whats your RAM

Its written, 2gig

Reise · Post by **Reise** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:28 pm

The GFX and processor are awful. Save your cash.

Jstar1 · Post by **Jstar1** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:30 pm

[SD]Kratos wrote:
Jstar1 wrote:hope your not buying it for silkroad online cause that would just lame.

? Wanna explain more?

yeah spending $500 for SRO is not worth it. imo, buying gt is not even worth it, I'd rather go pay for a company that has customer service. If your gonna get it, buy a nice PC game with it

TroM · Post by **TroM** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:13 am

The 8500 GT is no better than onboard. Bad

The LOWEST I would recommend for a comp right now is a 8600 GT or ATI 2600 XT...

2nd get a better proccesor...even if you overclock it, it still won't perform on par with today's games etc (some exeptions ofcourse), or it'll bottleneck your graphics card

3rd what motherboard are you getting? Harddrive? Power Supply? Disc Drive? Case? Heatsink?

4th are you planning on overlocking at all?

5th I'd recommend better ram, DO NO SLACK ON THE RAM

, make sure the mobo you are getting supports it.

Head over to http://www.guru3d.com and post up on there if you want more opinions...

[SD]Kratos · Post by **[SD]Kratos** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:57 am

you guys think ima play newest game in best gfx possible

but no i only want to play basic games smoothly (im not expecting best gfx, this comp i got now lags in lowest gfx XD), like sro, some css, etc..

I usually play free games only so i dont buy newest shitz on the market

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:13 am

sro is the absolute worst game to judge a gfx card by.

i get like 130 fps in counter strike source, 120 on doom 3 and just around there on half life 2.

i can also run crysis.

but sro, omg.
still get like 20 fps in hotan.

cuchulainn · Post by **cuchulainn** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:22 am

RAM>all for many purposes.

I went from 512 MB of RAM in my Laptop (with a crappy 32 MB Graphics card and 1.8 GHz Centrino Processor) to 2 GB of RAM and the difference is night and day. Better load times. Same FPS in WoW, but I don't lag anymore when loading new areas. Plus I can't Alt-Tab very quickly compared to before and my hard drive doesn't heat up as much since the page file isn't used as much.

My point is: Get the maximum amount of RAM you can for your computer. It's the cheapest way to improve performance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... 9&name=2GB
2 GB sticks for under 40 bucks for desktops. That's dirt cheap and you've got 4 GB of RAM (more if your comp has more than 2 slots) for less than the price of most other components.

Also, it really isn't that hard to build your own system, just takes a small bit of research and no prior experience and you get much better customization of your system. Plus, you can get a better computer for less.

[SD]Twysta · Post by **[SD]Twysta** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:43 am

cuchulainn wrote:RAM>all for many purposes.

I went from 512 MB of RAM in my Laptop (with a crappy 32 MB Graphics card and 1.8 GHz Centrino Processor) to 2 GB of RAM and the difference is night and day. Better load times. Same FPS in WoW, but I don't lag anymore when loading new areas. Plus I can't Alt-Tab very quickly compared to before and my hard drive doesn't heat up as much since the page file isn't used as much.

My point is: Get the maximum amount of RAM you can for your computer. It's the cheapest way to improve performance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... 9&name=2GB
2 GB sticks for under 40 bucks for desktops. That's dirt cheap and you've got 4 GB of RAM (more if your comp has more than 2 slots) for less than the price of most other components.

Also, it really isn't that hard to build your own system, just takes a small bit of research and no prior experience and you get much better customization of your system. Plus, you can get a better computer for less.

coudn't have said it any better.

and if you do wish to buy a new computer, stick with the one you posted. it will run the games you play smooth. you could easily run newer games smooth as well. new computer + a ram stick which chuchu posted and your settled dude.

the.unseen. · Post by **the.unseen.** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:00 am

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... 66&subcat=
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productli ... &catid=966
http://3xs.scan.co.uk/ShowSystem.asp?SystemID=746
Best Pre-made ones I could find for your budget.

IguanaRampage · Post by **IguanaRampage** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:05 am

cuchulainn wrote:RAM>all for many purposes.

I went from 512 MB of RAM in my Laptop (with a crappy 32 MB Graphics card and 1.8 GHz Centrino Processor) to 2 GB of RAM and the difference is night and day. Better load times. Same FPS in WoW, but I don't lag anymore when loading new areas. Plus I can't Alt-Tab very quickly compared to before and my hard drive doesn't heat up as much since the page file isn't used as much.

My point is: Get the maximum amount of RAM you can for your computer. It's the cheapest way to improve performance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... 9&name=2GB
2 GB sticks for under 40 bucks for desktops. That's dirt cheap and you've got 4 GB of RAM (more if your comp has more than 2 slots) for less than the price of most other components.

Also, it really isn't that hard to build your own system, just takes a small bit of research and no prior experience and you get much better customization of your system. Plus, you can get a better computer for less.

*Whispers in Krat's ear* Exactly. Don't listen to him. He switched to WoW, the noob.

Cuch's advice is actually (surprisingly

) pretty good. For a noob of course. Go cuch

Yeah get a nice new comp, get some extra ram, but don't expect that to solve all the lag in SRO

. Only Joymax can do that.

MissLe2 · Post by **MissLe2** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:13 pm

dont you guys read the original post
this guy is a tech noob
dont know much
wants a basic game comp that will run SRO
not a tech discussion on vid cards
and has a price for euro$ not us$

check with Dell computers before you buy if you havent yet
and get most memory and vid card you can afford
you dont need the most Hard drive or fastest processor
but those are nice if for later upgrading of games