Why did the parents kill "Baby Grace"?

seadrift · Post by **seadrift** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:30 pm

As you all know Baby Grace was born "different" and 3 fractures in her skull. Some people refer to her as "ugly". Well anyways they "held her underwater in a bathtub, pulled her up by her hair and then threw her across the room, slamming her head to the tile floors 3! times. The couple then kept the body in a storage shed for a month ot two before they put it in a in and dumped it in the Gavelston Bay. They planned this out on the game of World of Warcraft. This really sickens me, to think we have people in this world who would do such a thing just because she was ugly?! They deserve to die a slow death then go to hell. What do u guys think? Am i right?

Silkroad · Post by **Silkroad** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:41 pm

source?

seadrift · Post by **seadrift** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:47 pm

The Associated Press reports that Kimberly Dawn Trenor, the 19-year-old mother of "Baby Grace," whom police are fairly confident is Riley Ann Sawyers, admitted to police that she and her new husband, Royce Clyde Zeigler II, 24, killed her on July 24. Trenor said they beat Riley with leather belts, held her head underwater in a bathtub, pulled her up by her hair and then threw her across a room, slamming her head into a tile floor three times. The couple kept the body in a storage shed for "a month or two" before they put it in a plastic bin and dumped it into Galveston Bay.
An autopsy showed the child had three skull fractures, but the cause of death was not determined. Both Trenor and Zeigler were arrested early Saturday. They are currently in police custody on charges of injuring a child and tampering with evidence. Bail has been set at $350,000 each. They met online playing World of Warcraft. In June, Trenor and Riley Ann moved from Mentor, Ohio, a Cleveland suburb to Spring, Texas to be with Zeigler.
DNA tests are being conducted to determine if Trenor is "Baby Grace's" mother. In an attempt to identify the mystery child, a sketch artist created a painting of her. Police named her "Baby Grace," and the media widely circulated the drawing. Police were tipped off to the child's identity when Riley's paternal grandmother, Sheryl Sawyers, who lives in Ohio, called them to say the sketch looked like her granddaughter. Trenor had told the Sawyers family, including Riley's father, Robert Sawyers, that Riley had been forcibly taken by social workers in July. Sawyers and Trenor never married but lived together for two years. They split up on March 31 after he was charged with domestic violence against her, a charge that was later reduced to disorderly conduct due to insufficient evidence. Sawyers is now married and has a three-month-old son.

Sylhana · Post by **Sylhana** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:01 am

I feel ill after reading this.

Reise · Post by **Reise** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:01 am

I've seen worse.

Cruor · Post by **Cruor** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:07 am

How did they go from meeting each other on WoW to planning it out on WoW? :roll:

Also, because you mentioned hell, I'm going to assume you are at least mildly religious. Let me remind you that God forgives all sins, no matter how big, and that wishing a slow death on someone as you have is a sin in itself.

(For the record, I am agnostic.)

Reise · Post by **Reise** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:13 am

Don't turn this into another godamn religious debate.

The world is full of sick people, some of them happen to play WoW.

seadrift · Post by **seadrift** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:15 am

Cruor wrote:How did they go from meeting each other on WoW to planning it out on WoW?

Also, because you mentioned hell, I'm going to assume you are at least mildly religious. Let me remind you that God forgives all sins, no matter how big, and that wishing a slow death on someone as you have is a sin in itself.

(For the record, I am agnostic.)

yes i am catholic..and yes God does forgive ALL sins, but from what i been heard "torturing a baby and killing her" is a mortal sin. and mortal sins cannot be forgiven. well as for the wishing hell part...if someone were to kill or son...wouldnt u "wish them to hell too?" i mean killing a baby just because she was ugly? thats not right...and the WoW part...it obvious they met each other and planned it out...i mean they're not going to meet just to play when they are about to kill thier own baby..

seadrift · Post by **seadrift** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:17 am

Reise wrote:Don't turn this into another godamn religious debate.

The world is full of sick people, some of them happen to play WoW.

yes that is what im saying...

Xyzzzy · Post by **Xyzzzy** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:17 am

seadrift wrote:
Cruor wrote:How did they go from meeting each other on WoW to planning it out on WoW?

Also, because you mentioned hell, I'm going to assume you are at least mildly religious. Let me remind you that God forgives all sins, no matter how big, and that wishing a slow death on someone as you have is a sin in itself.

(For the record, I am agnostic.)

yes i am catholic..and yes God does forgive ALL sins, but from what i been heard "torturing a baby and killing her" is a mortal sin. and mortal sins cannot be forgiven. well as for the wishing hell part...if someone were to kill or son...wouldnt u "wish them to hell too?" i mean killing a baby just because she was ugly? thats not right...and the WoW part...it obvious they met each other and planned it out...i mean they're not going to meet just to play when they are about to kill thier own baby..

they concieved it over WoW too?
wow I knew god was incredibly but c'mon!

you're ignorant
you posted the article, and so far all you've done is prove that you really didn't pay attention

it even said they lived together for 2 years :banghead:

seadrift · Post by **seadrift** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:20 am

Xyzzzy wrote:
seadrift wrote:
Cruor wrote:How did they go from meeting each other on WoW to planning it out on WoW?

Also, because you mentioned hell, I'm going to assume you are at least mildly religious. Let me remind you that God forgives all sins, no matter how big, and that wishing a slow death on someone as you have is a sin in itself.

(For the record, I am agnostic.)

yes i am catholic..and yes God does forgive ALL sins, but from what i been heard "torturing a baby and killing her" is a mortal sin. and mortal sins cannot be forgiven. well as for the wishing hell part...if someone were to kill or son...wouldnt u "wish them to hell too?" i mean killing a baby just because she was ugly? thats not right...and the WoW part...it obvious they met each other and planned it out...i mean they're not going to meet just to play when they are about to kill thier own baby..

they concieved it over WoW too?
wow I knew god was incredibly but c'mon!

you're ignorant
you posted the article, and so far all you've done is prove that you really didn't pay attention

it even said they lived together for 2 years

omg...

Xyzzzy · Post by **Xyzzzy** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:22 am

seadrift wrote:
Xyzzzy wrote:
seadrift wrote:
Cruor wrote:How did they go from meeting each other on WoW to planning it out on WoW?

Also, because you mentioned hell, I'm going to assume you are at least mildly religious. Let me remind you that God forgives all sins, no matter how big, and that wishing a slow death on someone as you have is a sin in itself.

(For the record, I am agnostic.)

yes i am catholic..and yes God does forgive ALL sins, but from what i been heard "torturing a baby and killing her" is a mortal sin. and mortal sins cannot be forgiven. well as for the wishing hell part...if someone were to kill or son...wouldnt u "wish them to hell too?" i mean killing a baby just because she was ugly? thats not right...and the WoW part...it obvious they met each other and planned it out...i mean they're not going to meet just to play when they are about to kill thier own baby..

they concieved it over WoW too?
wow I knew god was incredibly but c'mon!

you're ignorant
you posted the article, and so far all you've done is prove that you really didn't pay attention

it even said they lived together for 2 years

omg...

yes your god can help your incompetence
w/e don't come posting here, if you can't even get your facts right
I'm being less harsh than many others would

I can't wait for others

TOloseGT · Post by **TOloseGT** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:29 am

religious ppl contradict themselves all the time, u can't take them too seriously cuz they dun know what they believe in either.

neways, ppl do bad things, shit happens. i only hope that baby grace had a swift execution.

Xyzzzy · Post by **Xyzzzy** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:31 am

TOloseGT wrote:religious ppl contradict themselves all the time, u can't take them too seriously cuz they dun know what they believe in either.

neways, ppl do bad things, shit happens. i only hope that baby grace had a swift execution.

I guess there is no rational arguing for an irrational mind

seadrift · Post by **seadrift** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:34 am

Xyzzzy wrote:
seadrift wrote:
Xyzzzy wrote:
seadrift wrote:
Cruor wrote:How did they go from meeting each other on WoW to planning it out on WoW?

Also, because you mentioned hell, I'm going to assume you are at least mildly religious. Let me remind you that God forgives all sins, no matter how big, and that wishing a slow death on someone as you have is a sin in itself.

(For the record, I am agnostic.)

yes i am catholic..and yes God does forgive ALL sins, but from what i been heard "torturing a baby and killing her" is a mortal sin. and mortal sins cannot be forgiven. well as for the wishing hell part...if someone were to kill or son...wouldnt u "wish them to hell too?" i mean killing a baby just because she was ugly? thats not right...and the WoW part...it obvious they met each other and planned it out...i mean they're not going to meet just to play when they are about to kill thier own baby..

they concieved it over WoW too?
wow I knew god was incredibly but c'mon!

you're ignorant
you posted the article, and so far all you've done is prove that you really didn't pay attention

it even said they lived together for 2 years

omg...

yes your god can help your incompetence
w/e don't come posting here, if you can't even get your facts right
I'm being less harsh than many others would

I can't wait for others

clearly u really dont give a care about this baby...u ignore all this info.(whether u think itz true or not) and point out the things that i did wrong...

Xyzzzy · Post by **Xyzzzy** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:38 am

seadrift wrote:
Xyzzzy wrote:
seadrift wrote:
Xyzzzy wrote:
seadrift wrote:
Cruor wrote:How did they go from meeting each other on WoW to planning it out on WoW?

Also, because you mentioned hell, I'm going to assume you are at least mildly religious. Let me remind you that God forgives all sins, no matter how big, and that wishing a slow death on someone as you have is a sin in itself.

(For the record, I am agnostic.)

yes i am catholic..and yes God does forgive ALL sins, but from what i been heard "torturing a baby and killing her" is a mortal sin. and mortal sins cannot be forgiven. well as for the wishing hell part...if someone were to kill or son...wouldnt u "wish them to hell too?" i mean killing a baby just because she was ugly? thats not right...and the WoW part...it obvious they met each other and planned it out...i mean they're not going to meet just to play when they are about to kill thier own baby..

they concieved it over WoW too?
wow I knew god was incredibly but c'mon!

you're ignorant
you posted the article, and so far all you've done is prove that you really didn't pay attention

it even said they lived together for 2 years

omg...

yes your god can help your incompetence
w/e don't come posting here, if you can't even get your facts right
I'm being less harsh than many others would

I can't wait for others

clearly u really dont give a care about this baby...u ignore all this info.(whether u think itz true or not) and point out the things that i did wrong...

Oh I care, but I'm not going to go out of my way for it. There is nothing I can do. I was just pointing out that you come in here telling us about something, but when you post the real article all your facts are flawed, as well as any support for arguments you tried to come up with thereafter. I point out the flaw in your view, since you clearly supplied the evidence to do so, but instead you bring up my morality? Let's stick to the original point sweety. :love:

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:48 am

TOloseGT wrote:religious ppl contradict themselves all the time, u can't take them too seriously cuz they dun know what they believe in either.

neways, ppl do bad things, shit happens. i only hope that baby grace had a swift execution.

didn't sound like she did but your statement couldn't be more right....

TOloseGT · Post by **TOloseGT** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:53 am

well, they said the cause of death was unknown, so there's a chance they killed her, then did all that shit to her.