Champions League Real Madrid - Man United

[Aventus]

^Thats true, they did jump at damn near the same time.

@Xmoshe yea if you don't want to get speared, if your gonna go for the ball be willing to take the hit. This is why americans consider futbol a puss sport.

[BuDo]

@BuDo I did play football and I watch it more than enough to say it's not that common to do a high kick in mid air to catch a ball.

Not an high kick but a high reach to catch and control the ball....Which is very common and is clearly shown in the gif..

[heroo]

Guys, just so you know, according to the rules, a red card for nani's move is justified. He took the risk of seriously injuring the other player. Whether he did injure him or not, is irrelevant. The red card can be given.

[Vortexx]

@BuDo I did play football and I watch it more than enough to say it's not that common to do a high kick in mid air to catch a ball.

Not an high kick but a high reach to catch and control the ball....Which is very common and is clearly shown in the gif..

Pretty much. Should have been a yellow. Why they assigned an incompetent referee from the corrupt Turkish league to a big game like that is beyond me. Worst referee I've seen.

Also, this is an interesting article.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -card.html

Best part of the article:

When it was pointed out that Cakir was well regarded in Europe, he said: 'He's still rubbish.

'You don't have referees like that for these big games. The referee's assessor was there last night and he's a proper referee from the past, (Pierluigi) Collina.

'I am sure he looked at the decision and thought, "He's got it wrong".

'I couldn't believe it when he pulled out the red card - it was simply a wrong decision.'

[heroo]

Why they assigned an incompetent referee from the corrupt Turkish league to a big game like that is beyond me. Worst referee I've seen.

It's like you get more retarded with each post. You must be special or something.

[omier]

Worst referee I've seen.

I suppose you haven't seen Viktor Kassai yet.

[Vortexx]

Worst referee I've seen.

I suppose you haven't seen Viktor Kassai yet.

Oh I remember him. At least it was just a mistake and he admitted it. This turk single handedly ruined a very big game yesterday. Like 300 million people watched it. He turned Real's loss in a win.

Also, this is good.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/03/04/sir-alex- ... r-3526041/

Sir Alex Ferguson has called for a top-class display from Turkish referee Cuneyt Cakir at Old Trafford.

Cakir has taken charge of two Manchester United games and the Red Devils have won neither, losing in last season’s Europa League to Athletic Bilbao after a Champions League draw with Benfica.

‘You hope in a game of this nature that you are going to get the best refereeing performance, on the same level as the players on the pitch,’ said Ferguson.

‘Mistakes will be made by players and the referee but you hope it will be a top performance.

‘You hope to get nothing less than the best, An occasion like this deserves that.’

Manager of United said this like 3 days before the match.

[omier]

Worst referee I've seen.

I suppose you haven't seen Viktor Kassai yet.

Oh I remember him. At least it was just a mistake and he admitted it. This turk single handedly ruined a very big game yesterday. Like 300 million people watched it. He turned Real's loss in a win.

I don't know if you mean the same match as me (Estonia vs Ireland Euro 2012), but Kassai just messed up the whole game. Couldn't have been a mistake.

[Vortexx]

England vs Ukraine. He denied Ukraine's goal. The ball crossed the line before Terry cleared it.

[omier]

^Ah ok, such stuff has happened quite a lot.

[BuDo]

Guys, just so you know, according to the rules, a red card for nani's move is justified. He took the risk of seriously injuring the other player. Whether he did injure him or not, is irrelevant. The red card can be given.

That highlighted portion of your post is nonsense. You might as well say you run the risk of hurting other people by simply existing.... might be true but on a very insignificant level.... Nani appears to be in his own world just simply trying to control the ball and unaware of anyone rushing towards him.... A red card given doesn't mean a red card earned unless you believe that a referee's (or all game offcials) decisions is some ultimate universal indisputable truth....which it isnt...

[antics]

that card impacted the game so much. before it madrid were almost knocked out. didnt seem like they had a answer. and then the red car happens and they get their second wind. i think w.o the sending off of nani united wouldve won.

[.curve]

^Thats true, they did jump at damn near the same time.

@Xmoshe yea if you don't want to get speared, if your gonna go for the ball be willing to take the hit. This is why americans consider futbol a puss sport.

Soccer is a puss sport. How many people have thrown themselves to the ground crying for a card in this game alone?

[Feudal_lord]

Didn't see the match, but it appears Nani did look at him coming. So it might have been intentional, or just a poor decision. But since you cant make the difference between them, it's easier to give a red card.

Nani didn't see Arbeloa coming. Replays showed that. Nani looked at the ball and Arbeloa ran into his foot. It should have been a yellow. Not red.

The referee of yesterday, cuneyt cakir, follows Real Madrid, Messi, and Ronaldo on his twitter.

https://twitter.com/RefereeCuneyt

Cakir recent red cards:

Yesterday: Nani

Dec 2012: Cahill (Chelsea) vs Corninthians
Fifa club world cup final

Sept 2012: Gerrard (England) vs Ukraina
FIFA World Cup Qualifier

Apr 2012: Terry (Chelsea) vs Barcelona
UCL Semi

March 2011: Balotelli (Man City) vs Dynamo Kiev
Europa League round of 16

It's so obvious he's an anti-english referee. I doubt he's going to referee another English game ever again.

Just following Real Madrid and Rolaldo on twitter means that his intention on the pitch was to assist Real Madrid? Seeing the case this way is a bit ridiculous. As for being an anti-English refeere, you can not see these red cards they are absouletly red cards and the desicions are totaly right. Even John Terry hismself after the match apologized for the red card. Having watched the replays of these red crads showed by the refeere you will see it. And ı dont think the refeere made a fata mistake by showing his red card to Nani because positions that kind always has a risk for red card and Nani should have checked where he was going.

[Fury]

Everyone needs to understand that being a ref is not as easy as it looks. If he didnt show a red, i bet real madrid players would've been pissed off. Sooo i guess either way he would be a "shit" ref.

[Miguez]

What Fury said, basically.

Yes, maybe know that you watch all the replays and listen to all these expert referees, the red card might not make much sense; But at that time, the referee had to make a call, that's his job, and with all the information he had at the moment he did.

Might've been a wrong call, but it's certainly justified.

[Vortexx]

Everyone needs to understand that being a ref is not as easy as it looks. If he didnt show a red, i bet real madrid players would've been pissed off. Sooo i guess either way he would be a "shit" ref.

Rofl. The Real Madrid players didn't even surround the referee or asked for a red. They didn't except the red card either. Arbeloa knew there was going to be a collision and he got himself in the perfect position to get clobbered.

[penfold1992]

^Thats true, they did jump at damn near the same time.

@Xmoshe yea if you don't want to get speared, if your gonna go for the ball be willing to take the hit. This is why americans consider futbol a puss sport.

Soccer is a puss sport. How many people have thrown themselves to the ground crying for a card in this game alone?

this. watching gareth bale flail to the floor multiple times without being touched or being slightly tapped is disgraceful.

im amazed that so many people like a sport where falling over from the slightest of touches, time wasting and a persons appearance is a larger part then the "skill" required to play the game.

[heroo]

Obvious people with obvious sand in their vagina tend to look only at the faillures of the sport. Why don't I hear you guys talk about Messi's Maradonna like goal? Or the way Manchester City became Premier League champion last year?

But you guys only look at the fake dives, so you can bitch about the sport. It's okay. But most of us enjoy the sport, the atmosphere in the stadiums and the tension when a big match like Man U - Real Madrid is played. Sure there are fake dives now and then, but most of us don't care about that cause we don't have sand in our vagina.

[Vortexx]

I can't believe Juventus did the Harlem Shake.

This is golden. The harlem shake has gotten that popular. It's even posted on the official "Juventus" YouTube channel.

[*BlackFox]

Soon we'll see... aliens doing the Harlem Shake!

Anyway: Man United fan reported Nani red card to police, who were not amused

When Manchester United's Nani was sent off in the 56th minute of Tuesday's Champions League round of 16 second leg against Real Madrid, the home fans were outraged. The sending off for a boot to Alvaro Arbeloa's belly was soon followed by two goals from Real Madrid, which was enough to give them a lead they would not lose. So, an 18-year-old Man United fan watching at home decided to call emergency services to report the dismissal as a "crime" for police to investigate.

Read More Here

That's Just crazy

[penfold1992]

Obvious people with obvious sand in their vagina tend to look only at the faillures of the sport. Why don't I hear you guys talk about Messi's Maradonna like goal? Or the way Manchester City became Premier League champion last year?

But you guys only look at the fake dives, so you can bitch about the sport. It's okay. But most of us enjoy the sport, the atmosphere in the stadiums and the tension when a big match like Man U - Real Madrid is played. Sure there are fake dives now and then, but most of us don't care about that cause we don't have sand in our vagina.

because there is far more fake diving then there is real talent. messi is great and i enjoy watching him because he doesnt play the game of rolling around crying or throwing your hands up to get a foul or jumping and grabbing the ball expecting a foul to be given, its shit like that pisses me off. if someone goes to the floor and grabs the ball, no matter what its a foul against the guy that grabbed the ball, handball. it doesnt matter how bad the tackle was, its the refs decision to blow the whistle not the players.

also i hate when players kick the ball off "out of respect for an injured player" because most of the time that player is time wasting and again if its a real issue the ref should blow the whistle and not the players making that decision.

the atmosphere feels fake because of all the acting on the pitch. the tension isnt great for me either... knowing that the last 10 minutes will consist of time wasting by using subs, trying to get free kicks and goal keepers taking ages to kick the ball on purpose. Especially with real madrid, Mr Ronaldo thinks he is gods gift to the game except he spend most of the game on the floor and definitely cares about his appearance.

[heroo]

because there is far more fake diving then there is real talent. messi is great and i enjoy watching him because he doesnt play the game of rolling around crying or throwing your hands up to get a foul or jumping and grabbing the ball expecting a foul to be given, its shit like that pisses me off. if someone goes to the floor and grabs the ball, no matter what its a foul against the guy that grabbed the ball, handball. it doesnt matter how bad the tackle was, its the refs decision to blow the whistle not the players.

also i hate when players kick the ball off "out of respect for an injured player" because most of the time that player is time wasting and again if its a real issue the ref should blow the whistle and not the players making that decision.

the atmosphere feels fake because of all the acting on the pitch. the tension isnt great for me either... knowing that the last 10 minutes will consist of time wasting by using subs, trying to get free kicks and goal keepers taking ages to kick the ball on purpose. Especially with real madrid, Mr Ronaldo thinks he is gods gift to the game except he spend most of the game on the floor and definitely cares about his appearance.

Thank you for letting me know I shouldn't waste my time on you any longer. I thought we could have a discussion about this, but it is obvious to me now that you never watch football.

[penfold1992]

are you angry because its true? i watch a reasonable amount of football and it is indeed just like i said. time wasting in the last 10 minutes, subs in "Extra time"? people booing keepers because they just wave their hands to say "get up there".

also you cant be a football fan if you think ronaldo doesnt come across as arrogant. his goal celebration in the man u and real madrid game just shows EXACTLY the type of person he is. that smug look as if to say "oh im sorry" but also "yeah, i scored, expect it."

but truth hurts, i understand

[Fury]

Heroo it was foolish of you to think you could have a proper discussoon with this tool lol

[XMoshe]

Kind of have to agree with penfold here.

I love watching the plays, see great teamplay, fast passes, great headers, epic saves and more. But you can't deny that in nearly every match there is a moment where someone either takes a dive or whine about a tackle and ask the ref to give the other guy a card or other asshole behaviour. I find that a shame and I wish they would be more fairplay but hey, you can't have everything right. Also I'm mostly focussing on Dutch matches here although the internation matches I see are not not much different if you ask me.

[penfold1992]

Kind of have to agree with penfold here.

I love watching the plays, see great teamplay, fast passes, great headers, epic saves and more. But you can't deny that in nearly every match there is a moment where someone either takes a dive or whine about a tackle and ask the ref to give the other guy a card or other asshole behaviour. I find that a shame and I wish they would be more fairplay but hey, you can't have everything right. Also I'm mostly focussing on Dutch matches here although the internation matches I see are not not much different if you ask me.

oh i dont hate football either, the sport i mean. i just hate the attitudes that are in the sport. watch a 70's football match and see the huge difference if you dont believe it. the brazil vs england game comes to mind, slower paced then you would see by todays standards but at least its 90 minutes of great great football.

also in rugby the ref's are respected (and american football for the americans)
there is no swearing or back chat spats at the ref's or other officials. the decision is made and the game moves on instead of 10 people crowding around a referee bullying him to making a snap rash decision. we rarely see captains doing anything different from a normal player anymore when they should be the ONLY person that talks to the ref (other then the other involved members in the incident when they are addressed...)
isnt the captain supposed to be the person that can best represent the team?