American Tea Party [09/12/09]

Nitro · Post by **Nitro** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:01 pm

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Discuss.

Kazook · Post by **Kazook** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:16 pm

asusi · Post by **asusi** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:29 pm

America, there is always an reason to whine about

Sovereign · Post by **Sovereign** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:30 pm

My god, I was laughing all the way through this. It's understandable that every country in the world will have its fair share of idiots, but my god there was A LOT of idiots in that video, I can't even comprehend how they can just follow an idea without any proof or background knowledge.

Obama should create a massive petting zoo for all the stupid Christian rednecks in the south, would be a good source of laughter

peex · Post by **peex** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:25 pm

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Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:28 pm

So let me get this straight: Over 1 million people show up to protest government bailouts & corporatism. Some asshole decides to take videos of a couple ignorant signs & protesters and suddenly 1 million + people are ignorant southerners? No, fck you. The actions of the few do not represent the socio-economic beliefs of the whole. This reminds me of the video where some British guy walks around the states and shows the most ignorant people he could find.

Before you spout ignorance all over these boards take the time to learn what this grassroots event was about.

Our mission that day was part of a national effort to educate and gather support for an audit of the federal reserve. HR1207 already has the support of all our representatives here in Arizona but Senator Kyl has yet to agree to the senate version of the bill, S604.

HR1207 has support from 2/3rd of the House & S604 has support of 27 senators iirc. The revolution will not be televised & if it is televised it will be downplayed.

zShared · Post by **zShared** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:38 pm

^ What he said
Remember the thread "Americans are dumb" with a video of interviewing random people on the street.. then everyone here and in the videos comments laff'd at them. So someone made another video of a different place.. I think germany? and got the same result.

EvGa · Post by **EvGa** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:50 pm

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This one? Oh lols British people are so stupid!!1111! /end ignorant statement.

Barotix pretty much said what I wanted to. Just shows how ignorant some people are. EDIT *I'm talking about the people who generalize an entire country based off a youtube video interviewing 15 people.

TheDrop · Post by **TheDrop** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:22 pm

Baro for pres

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:25 pm

FOX told a bunch of people to start a "grassroots" movement because they hate the Obama administration...this is the results...they then filmed it, pretended like they didn't know where it came from and kept calling a "grassroots" movement...

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:29 pm

XemnasXD wrote:FOX told a bunch of people to start a "grassroots" movement because they hate the Obama administration...this is the results...they then filmed it, pretended like they didn't know where it came from and kept calling a "grassroots" movement...

It has nothing to do with Fox.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:44 pm

Barotix wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:FOX told a bunch of people to start a "grassroots" movement because they hate the Obama administration...this is the results...they then filmed it, pretended like they didn't know where it came from and kept calling a "grassroots" movement...

It has nothing to do with Fox.

it has alot to do with FOX. When a national news channel endorses a movement and gives it large publicity and coverage when Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity are both telling millions of people to get out their and do this i'd say it has alot to do with them. In fact Glenn's stance on the 9/12 issue was trying to bring America back to the feeling be had after that wonderful day. Im not making stuff up...

CrimsonNuker · Post by **CrimsonNuker** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:46 pm

Where the black people at?

SM-Count · Post by **SM-Count** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:49 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
Barotix wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:FOX told a bunch of people to start a "grassroots" movement because they hate the Obama administration...this is the results...they then filmed it, pretended like they didn't know where it came from and kept calling a "grassroots" movement...

It has nothing to do with Fox.

it has alot to do with FOX. When a national news channel endorses a movement and gives it large publicity and coverage when Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity are both telling millions of people to get out their and do this i'd say it has alot to do with them. In fact Glenn's stance on the 9/12 issue was trying to bring America back to the feeling be had after that wonderful day. Im not making stuff up...

I'd be interested in seeing the proof. I've just been reading headlines on Fox and last I heard was they didn't have direct control of millions of people. I'm not attacking your stance on the issue I'm attacking the basis of your statement, if its based on unfounded rumor then this is just perpetuating the disgusting cycle of unfounded rumors on this issue. If evidence, solid and credible evidence has been brought to light then it'll be interesting to watch the headlines to see what comes of this whole issue.

In other words whether Fox started this is of no concern to me, I just don't like reading bullshit thats being passed off as fact...

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:56 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
Barotix wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:FOX told a bunch of people to start a "grassroots" movement because they hate the Obama administration...this is the results...they then filmed it, pretended like they didn't know where it came from and kept calling a "grassroots" movement...

It has nothing to do with Fox.

it has alot to do with FOX. When a national news channel endorses a movement and gives it large publicity and coverage when Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity are both telling millions of people to get out their and do this i'd say it has alot to do with them. In fact Glenn's stance on the 9/12 issue was trying to bring America back to the feeling be had after that wonderful day. Im not making stuff up...

I'm not making stuff up either & FOX is not the driving force behind the Tea Party or "End the Fed" movement, representative Dr. Ron Paul and his 200k Strong grassroots movement CFL is the root source and cause of it. Glenn Beck is an opportunist snake in the grass taking advantage of the force that is CFL.

CrimsonNuker wrote:Where the black people at?

Hi.

EvGa · Post by **EvGa** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:01 pm

SM-Count wrote:I'd be interested in seeing the proof. I've just been reading headlines on Fox and last I heard was they didn't have direct control of millions of people. I'm not attacking your stance on the issue I'm attacking the basis of your statement, if its based on unfounded rumor then this is just perpetuating the disgusting cycle of unfounded rumors on this issue. If evidence, solid and credible evidence has been brought to light then it'll be interesting to watch the headlines to see what comes of this whole issue.

I see what you did there.

EDIT: /inb4shitstorm

Reise · Post by **Reise** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:06 pm

I could agree with Barotix and give the tired "generalizing is ignorance" speech, but it's far easier to just say "**** you."

So, f*ck you.

Doppleganger · Post by **Doppleganger** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:16 pm

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XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:54 pm

SM-Count wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:it has alot to do with FOX. When a national news channel endorses a movement and gives it large publicity and coverage when Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity are both telling millions of people to get out their and do this i'd say it has alot to do with them. In fact Glenn's stance on the 9/12 issue was trying to bring America back to the feeling be had after that wonderful day. Im not making stuff up...

I'd be interested in seeing the proof. I've just been reading headlines on Fox and last I heard was they didn't have direct control of millions of people. I'm not attacking your stance on the issue I'm attacking the basis of your statement, if its based on unfounded rumor then this is just perpetuating the disgusting cycle of unfounded rumors on this issue. If evidence, solid and credible evidence has been brought to light then it'll be interesting to watch the headlines to see what comes of this whole issue.

In other words whether Fox started this is of no concern to me, I just don't like reading bullshit thats being passed off as fact...

Smart ass...kinda cute though :love:

http://www.the912project.com/

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Like i said it has alot to do with FOX. Whether Ron Paul was the source of this movement is now about as relevant as Ron Paul. A major media source has endorsed this movement. Has been promoting it for awhile now and has been giving it the media attention it needs while shoving it down the throat of all of its viewers. Grassroots my ass. If you want further proof you can keep watching FOX because they've been hyping up this thing thing for months now as you can see by the date of the video. If you think all of this is the work of Ron "i couldn't even begin to win an election" Paul then i think you need to rethink what a boon it is to have coverage and support like that. FOX spread the message, FOX made its viewers aware, FOX organized rallies and sent their prominent news figures to show support, FOX has been doing this for months. There is a certain point where a movement stops becoming "grassroots" and starts becoming a tool of propaganda by the people in power. This is no longer grass roots, that stopped long ago. This is no longer just people getting together because they heard from someone and organized someone now this is a calling a gathering done by a mass media corporation. Its one thing to cover, its an entirely different thing to take part in.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:59 pm

Dude, I don't watch Fox, I don't trust Glenn Beck and trust me Ron Paul is still very relevant. The revolution will not be televised & the general public will not participate.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:11 pm

well these tea parties sure are televised and the 9/12 project sure is and the public is being called out in droves, like the mindless sheep that they are, to participate. I don't trust FOX, and i know Ron Paul isn't going anywhere. But i think the point i was trying to make is clear. This is "grassroots" with some extreme FOX news product placement and endorsement...which to me doesn't make it very "grassroots" at all anymore...

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:20 pm

XemnasXD wrote:well these tea parties sure are televised and the 9/12 project what use is putting a rally on TV if the goals of the rally are not broadcast? I speak of Ending the Fed and Corporatism in the States. sure is and the public is being called out in droves, like the mindless sheep that they are, to participate They won't show the real tea party protesters though, just the ones that support Mr. Beck. I don't trust FOX, and i know Ron Paul isn't going anywhere Audit the Fed sound familiar? Of course not, it's hardly gets a mention. The Revolution... will not... . But i think the point i was trying to make is clear. This is "grassroots" with some extreme FOX news product placement and endorsement...which to me doesn't make it very "grassroots" at all anymore... In my original post I wanted to typed "FOX is taking advantage of the Rally," but I didn't because I hoped people would assume FOX didn't really organize this thing, lol.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:25 pm

And i already said that regardless of the origins of this thing it has been warped and perverted too be a tool that can be brandished and used by the conservative media. The movement has FOX all over it now, i dunno where Ron Paul is in all this. I can't see Ron Paul in all this. Ron Paul is no longer there...This is 9/12 Project Brought to you by Glenn Beck and Tea Party Project Brought to you by FOX News.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:27 pm

XemnasXD wrote:And i already said that regardless of the origins of this thing it has been warped and perverted too be a tool that can be brandished and used by the conservative media.

Barotix wrote:FOX is taking advantage of a [edit, I changed Rally to Movement] movement

That's all I was trying to say, lol. Oh and just because the good Doctor's views aren't all over FAUX and other MsM doesn't mean he isn't doing his job as a congressman.

Ron Paul is no longer there

I do say, FAUX has done a good job of taking over if you honestly think RP's C4L has nothing to do with Glenn Beck's sudden support (c: 2008) of the constitution.

EDIT: I don't really care, typed what had to be typed in my first post and any post after that will just be a repeat of what I've typed several times in the past. You & I know the drill, we disagree, then find common ground, and everyone moves on with their life. =|

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:42 pm

Ron Paul is a joke. Audit the Fed is a joke. That he believes that something created by man is so perfect that it never needs the interference of man is joke. It used to be funny, now its old and played out. But we've been over our stance on gov't and economy before, Paul may as well be the anti-christ to me. Revolution is coming, but not from him...the whole world is changing...

Doppleganger · Post by **Doppleganger** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:49 pm

This?

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Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:53 pm

And that string of derp pulls me right back in.

XemnasXD wrote:Ron Paul is a joke. We can agree to disagree Audit the Fed is a joke.2/3rds of the House say no but still your opinion That he believes that something created by man is so perfect that it never needs the interference of man is joke.

Now, that last comment about perfection shows a fundamental lack of understanding of exactly what a market economy is and the views of Austrians like Dr. Ron Paul. You see we do not propose that the free market is perfect, no, far from that. What we have been saying & what we will continue to say is that a Market Economy needs to be allowed to clear out mal-invested assets and go through liquidation. When a business does not meet the expectations of consumers it should die, it should not propped up and be allowed to make those same mistakes again. We believe that a monopoly should not manipulate interest rates which sends false market signals to investers, consumers, and producers which in turn leads to Market Bubbles & Burst. So no, what we say is that when Regulation fails more regulation is bound to fail therefore rather than pushing for more of the same one should push for less regulation or at least a degree of transparency. You know, that thing that was promised by the "winner." We can't continue to promise Dubai & offer Afghanistan, it won't work.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:59 pm

you're right i don't understand the economy as well as you do and if Audit the Fed actually passes i'll tip my hat. But when regulation fails that doesn't mean more regulation will make it fail harder, it just means it needs better regulation. Thats my opinion im not about to start a fight on economics with our titan on the subject and if my view is flawed so be it. But i believe that regulation, good regulation is always needed and i believe that big gov't, good gov't, can always benefit the people. Im a man who at his heart believes in control but only when its done the right way.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:09 pm

XemnasXD wrote:Im a man who at his heart believes in control but only when its done the right way.

That's legit and I can respect that, also; your view isn't flawed (I prefer inefficient) it's just another school of thought that I happen to disagree with.

strangelove · Post by **strangelove** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:38 am

SM-Count wrote:I'd be interested in seeing the proof. I've just been reading headlines on Fox and last I heard was they didn't have direct control of millions of people. I'm not attacking your stance on the issue I'm attacking the basis of your statement, if its based on unfounded rumor then this is just perpetuating the disgusting cycle of unfounded rumors on this issue. If evidence, solid and credible evidence has been brought to light then it'll be interesting to watch the headlines to see what comes of this whole issue.

In other words whether Fox started this is of no concern to me, I just don't like reading bullshit thats being passed off as fact...

Girl in green= Heidi Noonan = Fox News Producer

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