[NEWS] abstinence program in malaysia

[user]

go into a hotel on the morning after valentines day and arrest every non-married couple. It is illegal to have meetings behind closed doors let alone pre-marital sex, charges can be $350 fine and upto 6 months in jail

lol, malaysian government is one wild cat

note* this program only applies to muslim couples, so if you are not into islam, you are cool.

source: http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2 ... 51-ap.html

[NuclearSilo]

What? How can you know someone is muslim or not?

[satman83]

What? How can you know someone is muslim or not?

You ask them

[bakafish]

This is not an abstinence program, according to the Islamic laws, Muslims can only have sexual intercourse after marriage, anything before that is against the law and you can be jailed for offending Islamic laws. Moreover, when you're born a Malay in Malaysia, you have to be a Muslim so it's not that hard to tell.

[takolin]

This is not an abstinence program, according to the Islamic laws, Muslims can only have sexual intercourse after marriage, anything before that is against the law and you can be jailed for offending Islamic laws. Moreover, when you're born a Malay in Malaysia, you have to be a Muslim so it's not that hard to tell.

What happened to the separation of church and state?

[Guardia]

I'm a Malaysian, and i'm a Muslim. Dont talk about Malaysian law if you dont know shlt. Muslims are not allowed to have sex before marriage. We're an Islamic country. We can identify ppl's religion from our ID card.

[inky]

This is not an abstinence program, according to the Islamic laws, Muslims can only have sexual intercourse after marriage, anything before that is against the law and you can be jailed for offending Islamic laws. Moreover, when you're born a Malay in Malaysia, you have to be a Muslim so it's not that hard to tell.

What happened to the separation of church and state?

Malaysia, not United States.

Not even the U.S. government is completely separate from the church. Same-sex marriage, stem cell research, special treatment for religious figures, "In God We Trust" / "So Help Me God"...you name it, we have it.

The thing about countries like Malaysia is that this semi-theocratic form of government and culture places too much pressure on other people. I have an atheist-theist discussion group/forum and most of the atheists from Malaysia tell us that being a non-believer in that country is such a huge taboo. I don't think we have the right to tell them what to do with these people since it's their religion but what people have to watch out for is if they cross the line and force non-Muslims to follow Islam-based rules.

[Squirt]

What? How can you know someone is muslim or not?

Christians wear the cross
Jews get the pris.

Muslim?

[CrimsonNuker]

Malaysia is an Islamic country? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[bakafish]

I'm a Malaysian, and i'm a Muslim. Dont talk about Malaysian law if you dont know shlt. Muslims are not allowed to have sex before marriage. We're an Islamic country. We can identify ppl's religion from our ID card.

Islamic country? What the fuck. Since when? I wasn't informed.

[user]

This is not an abstinence program, according to the Islamic laws, Muslims can only have sexual intercourse after marriage, anything before that is against the law and you can be jailed for offending Islamic laws. Moreover, when you're born a Malay in Malaysia, you have to be a Muslim so it's not that hard to tell.

okay? whats the difference between me saying it is a program and you calling it a law?

[bakafish]

This is not an abstinence program, according to the Islamic laws, Muslims can only have sexual intercourse after marriage, anything before that is against the law and you can be jailed for offending Islamic laws. Moreover, when you're born a Malay in Malaysia, you have to be a Muslim so it's not that hard to tell.

okay? whats the difference between me saying it is a program and you calling it a law?

Because with abstinence programs you can pledge and get a stupid ring for it while not get jailed for having pre-maritial sex.

[dom]

This is not an abstinence program, according to the Islamic laws, Muslims can only have sexual intercourse after marriage, anything before that is against the law and you can be jailed for offending Islamic laws. Moreover, when you're born a Malay in Malaysia, you have to be a Muslim so it's not that hard to tell.

okay? whats the difference between me saying it is a program and you calling it a law?

Because with abstinence programs you can pledge and get a stupid ring for it while not get jailed for having pre-maritial sex.

The program is law? What then?

[user]

This is not an abstinence program, according to the Islamic laws, Muslims can only have sexual intercourse after marriage, anything before that is against the law and you can be jailed for offending Islamic laws. Moreover, when you're born a Malay in Malaysia, you have to be a Muslim so it's not that hard to tell.

okay? whats the difference between me saying it is a program and you calling it a law?

Because with abstinence programs you can pledge and get a stupid ring for it while not get jailed for having pre-maritial sex.

but this program is government reenforced

[TOloseGT]

lol

[Reise]

Not even the U.S. government is completely separate from the church. Same-sex marriage, stem cell research, special treatment for religious figures, "In God We Trust" / "So Help Me God"...you name it, we have it.

One could also argue that if Church and State were supposed to be truly separate, that the government should be able to do those things regardless because religion should have no say and that human morals and rational thought should be what actually determines whether it's right or wrong.

As for Malaysia, the religious community probably made it possible for them to do that. I don't see why it'd be possible to fine people otherwise.

[TOloseGT]

eh, it's immoral not to allow same sex marriage.

putting god on our money and in the pledge is so retarded i can't even begin to make fun of it

[F-22]

eh, it's immoral not to allow same sex marriage.

putting god on our money and in the pledge is so retarded i can't even begin to make fun of it

why is it retarted? the US was found by Christian men so why cant they use god on their currency and pledge of alligence?

[TOloseGT]

cuz god wasn't put on our currency until the time of the civil war and god in the pledge 100 yrs after that.

[F-22]

but that doesnt change the fact that the majority of americans are not christian. i dont see a problem puting god in our currency even 100 yrs later.

[TOloseGT]

eww, i find it UGLY