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[Innovacious]

[[SD]Twysta]

gz!

I'm almost on 2k haha. 4k to go.

[Priam]

Nice drake :o

[Love]

:D

i love those drakes but that certainly isnt my color, nice hunter you got there btw

[Priam]

I've become a pvp geek on my mage.. Simply because arcane is so much fun, the only class able to kill me is a rogue, when he has stealth available. I've been topping the dmg and killing blows in ever AB game i've done so far. Simply because i'm always doing damage, and never die. And i'm still in full pve gear to. Pvp-ing with T6 has never been so much fun.

And, i need a new class to lvl. Not sure which. Hunter/Shaman/Warrior maybe.. Dont know. I've put the gnome mage on halt, because i'm actually enjoying the draenei now, which has been a while tbh.

[Innovacious]

gz!

I'm almost on 2k haha. 4k to go.

Its easier to grind the gold and rep for this drake then it is to grind rep to get a netherwing drake, lol

[Necrobat]

gz!

I'm almost on 2k haha. 4k to go.

Its easier to grind the gold and rep for this drake then it is to grind rep to get a netherwing drake, lol

Too bad the Netherdrakes are faster. Albino is only 280%, Nethers are 320%

[Priam]

only the arena gladiator netherdrakes are 320%. Not the normal ones you grind rep for..

[Necrobat]

only the arena gladiator netherdrakes are 320%. Not the normal ones you grind rep for..

Huh, coulda sworn they all were. I stand corrected then.

[Priam]

Nah, all the others are 280%, like every epic flying mount.

[woutR]

Yep, 320% is only for pros like me.

[Skyve]

Gladiator Netherdrake & Phoenix are the only one with 310% speed =/
Congratz on the Albino Drake,it looks fun to fly it(with the huge wings =D)

I'm never enjoyed WoW as much as before,being lv.70,not doing PvE at all,PvP hardcore is fun!
Im getting to learn more about my weakness and other's class weakness,my report so far from doing a lot of AV & EotS as a Warlock
-Rogues Stunlocks piss me off,but good thing there isn't that many rogues at the lv.70 bracket compared to the twink bracket(dont kno why)
-Arcane Mage Wohaaa never knew they hurt so much,they take me down really easy
-Retaladins Good thing they received the "nerf bat" xD

Also,I'v went to Destruction and I need an experienced Destruction Warlock(or an experienced player xD) to tell me if the way I use my spells is correct,so I go
Immolate,Incinerate,Conflegarate then Chaos Bolt+Shadowbolt and to stun/finish off I use Shadowfury

[SM-Count]

Warlock can't beat arcane mage... I don't think it's class issues.

Edit: O, your destro build, still...

[Love]

Gladiator Netherdrake & Phoenix are the only one with 310% speed =/
Congratz on the Albino Drake,it looks fun to fly it(with the huge wings =D)

I'm never enjoyed WoW as much as before,being lv.70,not doing PvE at all,PvP hardcore is fun!
Im getting to learn more about my weakness and other's class weakness,my report so far from doing a lot of AV & EotS as a Warlock
-Rogues Stunlocks piss me off,but good thing there isn't that many rogues at the lv.70 bracket compared to the twink bracket(dont kno why)
-Arcane Mage Wohaaa never knew they hurt so much,they take me down really easy
-Retaladins Good thing they received the "nerf bat" xD

Also,I'v went to Destruction and I need an experienced Destruction Warlock(or an experienced player xD) to tell me if the way I use my spells is correct,so I go
Immolate,Incinerate,Conflegarate then Chaos Bolt+Shadowbolt and to stun/finish off I use Shadowfury

i was the best lock on my server pvp wise back on live and ill tell you that you prob need better gear, macros which you can get at arenajunkies.com ( devour to remove slow from mages will be huge help til they get their well deserved nerf and the silence of your felpup ) also glyph wise you should get glyph of fear, glyph of corruption and glyph of siphon life/howl of terror( up to you ).

the glyph of fear will make a huge difference and learn to time your silences/run away ( against the needed classes ) and bind all your offensive spells ( i usually bind my main spell on my mousewheel for afliction siphon life, for destruction shadowfury and for demo demonic empowerment ) if you want to be extra pro you can customize the up/down function of the mousewheel but that isnt such a good idea since you need to zoom in/out in certain fights

to deal with kicks/silence everytime melee gets close to you switch to using fire spells if you must cast ( assuming you are affliction ), keep in mind this spells are 1.5ct so it will be very easy for you to fire them off

[[SD]Twysta]

I don't see how anybody could play like that. It looks like you won't have control enough over your movement.

[Innovacious]

I don't see how anybody could play like that. It looks like you won't have control enough over your movement.

yeah, i use qweasd and my mouse for movement/camera movement so i have everything around the wasd keys. I use the keys

` to = (less important stuff on 8 to = )
Shift + ` to 6
Alt + ` to 3
Ctrl 1 to 3
F2 and F3
Shift F1 to F3
And T

Thats like 30 something keys right there, all pretty easily accessable by my wasd hand, and theres still more available around there.

[woutR]

Gladiator Netherdrake & Phoenix are the only one with 310% speed =/
Congratz on the Albino Drake,it looks fun to fly it(with the huge wings =D)

I'm never enjoyed WoW as much as before,being lv.70,not doing PvE at all,PvP hardcore is fun!
Im getting to learn more about my weakness and other's class weakness,my report so far from doing a lot of AV & EotS as a Warlock
-Rogues Stunlocks piss me off,but good thing there isn't that many rogues at the lv.70 bracket compared to the twink bracket(dont kno why)
-Arcane Mage Wohaaa never knew they hurt so much,they take me down really easy
-Retaladins Good thing they received the "nerf bat" xD

Also,I'v went to Destruction and I need an experienced Destruction Warlock(or an experienced player xD) to tell me if the way I use my spells is correct,so I go
Immolate,Incinerate,Conflegarate then Chaos Bolt+Shadowbolt and to stun/finish off I use Shadowfury

i was the best lock on my server pvp wise back on live and ill tell you that you prob need better gear, macros which you can get at arenajunkies.com ( devour to remove slow from mages will be huge help til they get their well deserved nerf and the silence of your felpup ) also glyph wise you should get glyph of fear, glyph of corruption and glyph of siphon life/howl of terror( up to you ).

the glyph of fear will make a huge difference and learn to time your silences/run away ( against the needed classes ) and bind all your offensive spells ( i usually bind my main spell on my mousewheel for afliction siphon life, for destruction shadowfury and for demo demonic empowerment ) if you want to be extra pro you can customize the up/down function of the mousewheel as well but that isnt such a good idea since you need to zoom in/out in certain fights

to deal with kicks/silence everytime melee gets close to you switch to using fire spells if you must cast ( assuming you are affliction ), keep in mind this spells are 1.5ct so it will be very easy for you to fire them off

Keyboardturning ftw

[Necrobat]

Got lucky during ZA tonight





Lost the roll on the Hex Lord's helmet though. =[
Still need to get me some better shoulders too. <_<

[Priam]

arcane mages can beat anyone these days.

[SM-Count]

arcane mages can beat anyone these days.

Mages are still no threat in arena,with the exception in 3s.

[Priam]

arcane mages can beat anyone these days.

Mages are still no threat in arena,with the exception in 3s.

mmm, true. But i don't do arena's so i'm feared anyways

[Love]

I don't see how anybody could play like that. It looks like you won't have control enough over your movement.

perfect control actually

[sirs1ayer]

how do u select sum1 lol? or do u slect with mouse then switch to the num pad.

[[SD]Twysta]

how do u select sum1 lol? or do u slect with mouse then switch to the num pad.

Did you actually think he would play without a mouse... ?

Hence my comment...

[Skyve]

Gladiator Netherdrake & Phoenix are the only one with 310% speed =/
Congratz on the Albino Drake,it looks fun to fly it(with the huge wings =D)

I'm never enjoyed WoW as much as before,being lv.70,not doing PvE at all,PvP hardcore is fun!
Im getting to learn more about my weakness and other's class weakness,my report so far from doing a lot of AV & EotS as a Warlock
-Rogues Stunlocks piss me off,but good thing there isn't that many rogues at the lv.70 bracket compared to the twink bracket(dont kno why)
-Arcane Mage Wohaaa never knew they hurt so much,they take me down really easy
-Retaladins Good thing they received the "nerf bat" xD

Also,I'v went to Destruction and I need an experienced Destruction Warlock(or an experienced player xD) to tell me if the way I use my spells is correct,so I go
Immolate,Incinerate,Conflegarate then Chaos Bolt+Shadowbolt and to stun/finish off I use Shadowfury

i was the best lock on my server pvp wise back on live and ill tell you that you prob need better gear, macros which you can get at arenajunkies.com ( devour to remove slow from mages will be huge help til they get their well deserved nerf and the silence of your felpup ) also glyph wise you should get glyph of fear, glyph of corruption and glyph of siphon life/howl of terror( up to you ).

the glyph of fear will make a huge difference and learn to time your silences/run away ( against the needed classes ) and bind all your offensive spells ( i usually bind my main spell on my mousewheel for afliction siphon life, for destruction shadowfury and for demo demonic empowerment ) if you want to be extra pro you can customize the up/down function of the mousewheel but that isnt such a good idea since you need to zoom in/out in certain fights

to deal with kicks/silence everytime melee gets close to you switch to using fire spells if you must cast ( assuming you are affliction ), keep in mind this spells are 1.5ct so it will be very easy for you to fire them off

Wohaa awsome guide,sadly I'm a Destruction Lock,not Affliction =/
I'm just looking if the spells im using are alright(Immolate,Incinerate,Conflagrate,ShadowBolt,ChaosBolt,Shadowfury)
Also I'm wondering if there's anyway I can be less vulnerable to melee stun >.< I mean I know I'm dead when I get stunned by a Rogue or a Warrior

As for my gear,im fully geared Merciless Gladiator except for the leggings & the staff
EDIT 2: for Battlegrounds,Voidwalker or Felhunter?

[mosiac]

void walker is better vs melee, because of the sacrifice. how I play my destro lock, is immo, conflag, then spam insin. since you get the -cast time when you conflag. then use shadowfury when they get close to you, then fear. immo again, spam insin, when they get close again death coil, then fear, by then they should be dead. Thing that you need to realize as a lock is that your counter class is rogues, so don't expect to beat them easily. although it's possible. what I did in bgs with my lock is kept a felhunter for the spell lock. chaos bolt atm isn't working, only reason you should use it is to hit them through immunities, ie ice block, bubble, Cloak of shadows. only way to be better vs melee stun, is use the meta that gives stam and stun resist. also for rogues, trinket their kidney shot.

[Love]

ups: drain mana is always on 7, there is a mistake on that other 2 minute made keyboard i posted ( is on 4 there )



ok this is how my keyboard looks when i play destro and mousewheel will be taken by shadowfury

let me answer your question first about what pet to use on battlegrounds since this is prob the most important thing i have to share. that would be your succubus and the reason why is couse is the one who will allow you to use the benefits of the build and that is high burst at the expense of being castable and therefore interruptible

here is the basic strategy you want to use against current classes

( note: the moment you brake your seduce you want your pet to attack the target regardless of class almost, use macros for this )

( note: you always want to keep yourself on the move while gcds run ex. chaos bolt, immolate, conflag>----------run for about 1 sec--------> shadowburn>-------------run for about 1 sec------->shadowfury>------------run for about 1 sec--------->( while seducing and proceed to step 2 )

( note: you want to let your seduce last its full duration as much as possible to help your cds )

( note: once you hit your dr limit dot while running before opening new rotation against melee )

( note: if you got to max range with enough time on your seduce make shadowbolt/incinerate your opening instead of w/e described on the following )

hunter: seduce hunter/ burn pet down/ get close and exchange dps and burn all cds ( you will see how your rotations should look like for quick burst in the following and for poorly geared hunters you should just open on them )

warrior: seduce, get 5 yards away, chaos bolt,immolate,conflag ( depending on gear you want to sneak in a shadowburn or move to step 2)/ get to max range, immolate, shadowfury, incinerate, conflag, seduce/ chaos bolt, immolate, conflag, shadow burn. ( he should be down at this point and you want to use hs while you get your range if your opponent is ditching too much dmg )

rogue: ( this will be 1v1 pvp and you should be able to figure out how to deal with them in bgs ) let me say this first if they are sub your chances are fairly low if you both have same level gear and specially if his trinket is up.
wait for the cheap shot and be prepared for when he uses kidney shot and seduce, get to max range, chaos bolt, immolate, shadowburn, conflag, shadowfury, ( depending on how close he is shadowbolt or incinerate ), seduce/ max range again, immolate ( during all this process a good rogue will try to blind you as you gain range on him save your trinket for that ), corruption, shadowburn or conflag, as they close up on you death coil , after corruption is off seduce/ range, chaos bolt, immolate, anything you have up specially shadowfury combined with a nuke(should be done by now).
a good rogue will use his cds efficiently and counter pretty much all that but on bgs cds will be rather limited and you can get them easily that way. a good destro lock abuses his seduce and spends its time getting range and sits there and opens and when the target reaches him he simply repeats. thing to remember for all melee seducing and nuking right away is bad ( on WoTlk seduce will be more of a tool with improved saccu talents so you can rely for a solid strategy on it, casting atm has its setbacks )

ill do the rest later ( maybe ) but for casters you want to fear/cot/open up and when they silence you simply switch from fire to shadow or from shadow to fire and abuse your rather new reliable fear ( without glyph is trash and remember your fear nwo wont brake til you do 30-35% of their hp in dmg ). in all honestly you shouldnt have problems with any casters and if your felpup happens to be out you should run over them without effort, just remember things like anytime you see them casting shadowfury and completetely counter that time with your own and keep your pet on them ( and no you dont need felpup to handle casters CoT is their medicine ). only thing you should have a problem with is slow and for that you use the seduce strategy and once you hit your dr limit dot them and use your instants as they come up

if you have any questions feel free to ask me and ill do the best i can to answer them and try to pvp as much as you can 1v1 with your friends so your timing becomes 'perfect' and all this actually becomes useful and you prob know already but fear is deadly for hunters/druids/mages/paladins/priests/shamans so make this your priority insteed of seduce when the fight allows it

[Priam]

I've bound like my 5-6 main spells, the rest is clickable. Such keyboard interfaces scare the **** out of me.

[Necrobat]

I've bound like my 5-6 main spells, the rest is clickable. Such keyboard interfaces scare the **** out of me.

Sounds like me. My immediate reach spells are my common use ones (Mark, Autoshot, Steady Shot, Kill Command) my self-buff (Bestial Wrath) just outside that with my oh shi- button inbetween. (Arcane Shot, Concussive Shot) My trap is on click, because if it gets used it's generally pre-pull anyway.

[[SD]Twysta]

I'm gonna work on a very detailed bind interface when I hit 80. I want binds all around my left hand, and my right hand, as usual, on the mouse.