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[mosiac]

Maybe it's because I run with a rogue now, but I've used charge far more times to stop a kiting healer than int. spells. Haven't had too much experience with dreamstate myself since I didn't like that build as a 2's only player, but I do recall that I had more mana left over longer matches (against shamans...) as long as I didn't moonspam. Though root / cyclone works well, against fellow druids they're nothing since cyclone gets ranged unless I add ns and root gets shifted. Btw, what battlegroup?

Edit: Come on people! Play ALLY! WE'RE BETTER!

I've actually read that DS Druid+Rogue is the best way to run that comp.

I'm on Stormstrike now and no, ally blows compared to horde. Win so many more BGs.

We win everything but AV.

the server i'm on, it's like the pug horde just realized that bal recapping IB and TP usually works, it's funny to see the ally try to kill drek with two marshals up, soso smart.
but premade AV's on AV weekend mm. Got about 18k honor in one day, and that wasn't playing that much.

[SM-Count]

Do people even run pre-mades anymore? I just don't see the benefit from that after the new patches.

[Wu]

On my battlegroup allys usually win AV unless horde is hardcore defending or really trying to recap towers. EOTS is about 70% win chance for allys too, allys usually go straight for FR and belf towers, and it often works.

Besides that the insight of allys during AB and WSG is just aweful. Allys don't really help eachother out, and they charge in mid field alone in WSG -.-

/facepalm

Allys also often seem to not notice the hordes healers and just nuke the warrior. On a last note horde seems to have more priests and rogues than allys on average, and horde seems to be slightly more pvp dedicated than the average alliance player.

Thats how far my BGs analysis goes.

Oh and on my server alliance runs ALOT of naked AB premades, while Ive almost never seen naked premades on the server of my horde alt.

[mosiac]

Do people even run pre-mades anymore? I just don't see the benefit from that after the new patches.

Only time I really see premades is on BG weekends. and the benefits? Well, you actually have a group of people who listen, do everything right and win 90% of the time, rather than undergeared pugs who usually don't know what they're doing and lose 50% of the time.

[SM-Count]

Do people even run pre-mades anymore? I just don't see the benefit from that after the new patches.

Only time I really see premades is on BG weekends. and the benefits? Well, you actually have a group of people who listen, do everything right and win 90% of the time, rather than undergeared pugs who usually don't know what they're doing and lose 50% of the time.

vs. time / effort / queue time it's really not worth it anymore.

[mosiac]

mm, don't really know what you're talking about. time? games last usually around 10mins for premades, pugs can last up to 40mins. effort? you probably do less in premades, you have a given assignment, and that's all you usually have to worry about, rather than having to look on the map to see what needs to be done in pugs, and doing more than 1 jobs because usual pugs just kill bal and rush aid. and que time? we re-que'd up right after our last game, probably takes 30secs for everyone to open the preform depending on how slow their load is.
last AV weekend like i said, made 18k honor in 1 day, didn't lose 1 AV the whole day. if I had been doing pugs, i wouldn't of made near that much honor, usual pug games make around 200-400 honor each run, in 20-40 mins, while premades make 400+ honor each game, which are each 10mins. def worth it imo, also, vent is nice to use instead of having to type for callouts.

[cuchulainn]

mm, don't really know what you're talking about. time? games last usually around 10mins for premades, pugs can last up to 40mins. effort? you probably do less in premades, you have a given assignment, and that's all you usually have to worry about, rather than having to look on the map to see what needs to be done in pugs, and doing more than 1 jobs because usual pugs just kill bal and rush aid. and que time? we re-que'd up right after our last game, probably takes 30secs for everyone to open the preform depending on how slow their load is.
last AV weekend like i said, made 18k honor in 1 day, didn't lose 1 AV the whole day. if I had been doing pugs, i wouldn't of made near that much honor, usual pug games make around 200-400 honor each run, in 20-40 mins, while premades make 400+ honor each game, which are each 10mins. def worth it imo, also, vent is nice to use instead of having to type for callouts.

20 minute queue for premade versus 5 for pugging

[mosiac]

i probably should of clarified that i'm talking about AV premades, forgot about that.

[cuchulainn]

i probably should of clarified that i'm talking about AV premades, forgot about that.

Which are not a sure thing at all.

On something like AV weekend, it's going to take awhile to get a decent number of people into the same game.

Plus, AV premades really aren't that great. I don't know how many premades my teams have beaten horribly. AV is a giant zergfest basically. A premade can get you 500+ honor in 25 minutes where a losing PuG that isn't terrible can get you 400 in 15 minutes. I know which one I prefer.

That's not to say I'm in favor of 5 man queueing AV with friends, but 40 man premades aren't all they're cracked up to be.

[mosiac]

only took us one or two que's to get a good one and join. took us less than a minute to get everyone que'd into the same game. and a 25min premade? i don't know if our strat is the same, because none of our games have lasted more than 13mins. also, i've never gotten more than 400 bhonor in a pug, usually in the 200 and 300s. maybe the pugs in my servers are just a lot more braindead than yours. the way we did AV wasn't much of a zergfest. 10 of the premade would kill bal, while most pugs followed. those at bal went to recap ib and tp and stayed there. 3 into shb and iwb, all the rogues on O would go and cap N and S bunkers while the rest of O waited at sp gy for both bunkers to cap, then rush aid. without having 30+ people in the premade, the majority would be running across the bridge, getting killed by ally's D, if there were any, and the archers/npcs. the only D we had were recapping, maybe that's why there's such a significant time diffrence.

[cuchulainn]

Woot, got my replacement RAM and computer booted up first thing!

Time to install everything, hehe.

[SM-Count]

Instaltion is not too bad, patching is a nightmare.

[cuchulainn]

Instaltion is not too bad, patching is a nightmare.

Well, I'm just going to copy my WoW folder from laptop to desktop, then worry about dling install and patches overnight

[SM-Count]

Specs?

[cuchulainn]

Specs?

Core 2 Duo E7200
512 MB 8800 GT
2 GB RAM

Update:

Old Comp: Minimum settings, lucky to break 30 FPS.

New Comp: Maximum settings, 70+ FPS entire time. <3

[LockStar.]

Specs?

Core 2 Duo E7200
512 MB 8800 GT
2 GB RAM

Update:

Old Comp: Minimum settings, lucky to break 30 FPS.

New Comp: Maximum settings, 70+ FPS entire time. <3

I love the way WoW runs on full graphics on a High end PC.

Anyway, can someone tell me what is the most active/fun EU server.. retail.

[Key-J]

There are some shitty quests in outland...

Spoiler!

XD

What you talking about? I loved that quest, and the other Poo quest in Nagrand...

Hmmm people really have weird UIs.

[cuchulainn]

There are some shitty quests in outland...

Spoiler!

XD

What you talking about? I loved that quest, and the other Poo quest in Nagrand...

Hmmm people really have weird UIs.

Don't mind the UI. It looks like shit atm, I haven't sat down and make it good yet.

[SM-Count]

Specs?

Core 2 Duo E7200
512 MB 8800 GT
2 GB RAM

Update:

Old Comp: Minimum settings, lucky to break 30 FPS.

New Comp: Maximum settings, 70+ FPS entire time. <3

I'm running 456 RAM ('upgraded') with this crap. So not a gaming computer. I get 10-12max fps in outdoors, 16 fps in instances with little trash, and have to work in frames per 10 seconds when in shatt. My arena partner always has me over since I've ruined games on my craptop.

@lockstar
I have an old guild mate who plays on Al'Akir and I believe it's an english speaking relm. Heard the community isn't bad and raid progress is good, plus the fact that it's a PvP server.

[[SD]Twysta]

There are some shitty quests in outland...

Spoiler!

XD

What you talking about? I loved that quest, and the other Poo quest in Nagrand...

Hmmm people really have weird UIs.

Don't mind the UI. It looks like shit atm, I haven't sat down and make it good yet.

Lol KJ, you don't seem to like customized UI's yet

Trust me, when you hit 70 (or have you just hit?) and start pvping/raiding, you will get them and even need them

[Skyve]

I'v tried so many AI yesterdai,but I can't just stand them,I alway's feel there's something rong,dont feel comfortable;
ATM;
Only AI I use is;
X-Perl Unitframe's
QuestHelper

I'v tried the following's,coudn't manage to like those;
Bartender3
Quartz
Bongos2
Cartographer

Im looking' for an SIMPLE AI with coords(Cartographer got too much content),looking for a nice Mage casting AI too(Dont really like Quartz),as for Bartender3,im trying to search a nice display to make it look good

[SM-Count]

igotspellcheckaddon,howboutyou?

[cuchulainn]

I'v tried so many AI yesterdai,but I can't just stand them,I alway's feel there's something rong,dont feel comfortable;
ATM;
Only AI I use is;
X-Perl Unitframe's
QuestHelper

I'v tried the following's,coudn't manage to like those;
Bartender3
Quartz
Bongos2
Cartographer

Im looking' for an SIMPLE AI with coords(Cartographer got too much content),looking for a nice Mage casting AI too(Dont really like Quartz),as for Bartender3,im trying to search a nice display to make it look good

Pitbull+Quartz+Bartender/Bongos=Basic addons for UI

You'll need to do some configuration to get them looking and acting how you want, but it's not too difficult to figure out.

Oh, it's UI btw, not AI.

[Skyve]

I'v tried so many AI yesterdai,but I can't just stand them,I alway's feel there's something rong,dont feel comfortable;
ATM;
Only AI I use is;
X-Perl Unitframe's
QuestHelper

I'v tried the following's,coudn't manage to like those;
Bartender3
Quartz
Bongos2
Cartographer

Im looking' for an SIMPLE AI with coords(Cartographer got too much content),looking for a nice Mage casting AI too(Dont really like Quartz),as for Bartender3,im trying to search a nice display to make it look good

Pitbull+Quartz+Bartender/Bongos=Basic addons for UI

You'll need to do some configuration to get them looking and acting how you want, but it's not too difficult to figure out.

Oh, it's UI btw, not AI.

Alright,gonna check these out,
Oh UI would make sens,User Interface

[woutR]

what spec are you going for cuch?

11/11/39
8/11/42
34/0/27

Depends on team comp and what I feel most comfortable with.

Druid Power!

[Skyve]

Lv.38!
Two more level's before I can finally get my Hawkstrider!
I got a question;
Would it be worth it to re-talent into Frost?
Everybody tell's me it's better & funner,
thing is there's no good dmg spell like Pyroblast in Frost tree,
Frost is more like defence type,so dont know,

[Key-J]

Lol KJ, you don't seem to like customized UI's yet

Trust me, when you hit 70 (or have you just hit?) and start pvping/raiding, you will get them and even need them

Im currently 67 in Nether and kinda loving/hating it. But anyway, the UI. I like the normal one. I do have Addons though.

Carbonite (OMG LOVE THIS)
Auctioneer
OmenMeter
AtlasLoot
Gatherer.

That's all ive ever needed, and for the time being all i see me needing.

Im looking' for an SIMPLE AI with coords(Cartographer got too much content),looking for a nice Mage casting AI too(Dont really like Quartz),as for Bartender3,im trying to search a nice display to make it look good

Carbonite is the thing for you.

[SM-Count]

I'd highly suggest investing in cast bars and getting a move anything add-on if your computer doesn't completely suck wind and you can play in higher resolutions than 8x6

[Wu]

Lv.38!
Two more level's before I can finally get my Hawkstrider!
I got a question;
Would it be worth it to re-talent into Frost?
Everybody tell's me it's better & funner,
thing is there's no good dmg spell like Pyroblast in Frost tree,
Frost is more like defence type,so dont know,

I leveled my mage from 1-70 full frost and I personally loved it.

Ice barrier gives alot more surviveability and with frostbite + shatter + Ice shards you will crit alot and with nasty damage.

It's alot of fun especially when you get your water elemental at lvl 50.

But fire is pretty good too for pve, just do what you think you will like the most.

I recommend you try frost at least to see if it fits your playing style.


On another note: woot druid went from lvl 54 to 60 in 2 days ^^ epic riding mount and outlands gear FTW. I tried all 3 trees now, did 50-55 resto instance grinding, 55-60 boomkin and now back to feral. Druid is So much fun in all 3 trees

[SM-Count]

How do you have mana as a boomkin?