"Massive Bot Punishment" and end of PK2 edits??

Mafiaz · Post by **Mafiaz** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:57 am

What time is the server inspection in pacific time.

Krushrpants · Post by **Krushrpants** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:09 am

Im glad botters will be banned... but this update thing wont ban all of those people in towns who sell stuff really cheap will they? [aka, BOT STALLS T_T]

Its going to be much harder to stall merchant now DX

Woohoo · Post by **Woohoo** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:16 am

They changed it now. So yea, no more botting.

Hello. This is Silkroad Online.

All servers will be undergoing extra server inspection regarding the massive bot punishment.

Abnormal client (ex: Hacking client with unnatural data) is not accessable after the inspection and will be punished strongly if one tries to access with such a client.

Please re-setup the normal client whoever uses the abnormal client and you must stop using illegal program right away such as bot program.

Thank you.

PrincessBoA · Post by **PrincessBoA** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:36 am

well, good job Joymax. . . .

finally i can farm SP without being ksed by those bots!! This is the best news for me from Joymax. But I guess the botters will to look for another way to get the new bots into the game in a very short time. . . . But atleast, joymax do something about it!! which impressed me!! :wink:

Sylhana · Post by **Sylhana** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:10 am

I'm still undecided on whether I will play with a chat filter, or getting banned.

vindicated01 · Post by **vindicated01** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:11 am

is this new..

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:57 am

You guys are pretty gullable to think that botters will be banned :roll:

kellinatorv1 · Post by **kellinatorv1** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:23 am

ok
so for those of you who have never used a bot client or pk2 client
they are different its not like they login like everyone else
they run a client that stops game guard
so pretty much bots are gone
and silkroad is going to be empty
with lots less sosun 8th degree stuff

QwertyNukes · Post by **QwertyNukes** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:24 am

Has anyone with PK2 edits tried to log on yet? and if yes, does JM destroy you?

Chromis · Post by **Chromis** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:37 am

What if they just dont use bots for say 2 weeks, and then start again? or what if after a bunch of people get banned, people bot again.

In my opinion, however much I wish bots don't come again, unless JoyMax does these things periodically, and by that I don't mean every month but one day a week, the bot problem will not be solved.

PR0METHEUS · Post by **PR0METHEUS** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:18 am

Ice771x wrote:
JM wrote:Please re-setup the normal client whoever uses the abnormal client and we recommend you not to use illegal program such as bot program right away.[/b]

does anyone else see anything wrong with jm telling us not to bot "right away?"

Don't worry, I'm betting it's a mistake in translation. What they're telling you is to "stop using a bot right away. Don't wait a while before you turn it off."

borat2 · Post by **borat2** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:44 am

makes me wonder again if joymax has any conenctions with isrobot

why:

1 isrobot uses normal client
2 there have been many many hacks to isrobot to make it free of usage but usually had to use modified clients
3 the clientless bot from "probably" same makers has been free for a while due to those cracked clients
4 why create premium tickets before all these "free" isrobots?

just wondering cause i was happy with my premium and now feeling backstabbed (again) by joymax

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:42 pm

"Hello. This is Silkroad Online.

A patch regarding [ Bot & Hacked Client Block ] has been applied in order to create a clean gaming environment.

As this patch has been applied to wipe out bot programs and hacked clients, legitimate users using normal clients will not experience any problems logging on to the game. However, users that use abnormal or hacked clients & bot programs may only log on to the game by installing an unaltered normal client that has been newly downloaded.

After the application of this patch, we will wipe out any bot & hacked client users."

This is to good to be true...

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:50 pm

OMG i opened silkroad and... well i did not see a single bot, all the servers populated, plz, STAY LIKE THIS =DDDDDDDDDD

Shot at 2007-07-20

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:53 pm

Look at the language. You guys are seriously reading too much into this. Botters that use isro will still be able to play. There will still be botters, no doubt about it. Get used to it. It's like steroids in baseball and football. They are there...they aren't going away. It's a fact of life these days....joymax (IMO) is in cohoots with bot369.com - also, if you are botting and always buying silk as well, they have no reason - financially - to ban you...with a history of buying silk, that would be a lost customer. :wink:

PR0METHEUS · Post by **PR0METHEUS** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:32 pm

sirdingydang wrote:also, if you are botting and always buying silk as well, they have no reason - financially - to ban you...with a history of buying silk, that would be a lost customer.

I shop at Walmart every week to do grocery shopping and buy other things. So I'm a regular paying customer. So let's say every time I go to walmart, I see another customer approaching an item they want to buy. So I run faster than them, grab that item, and run away. Do this for every customer I see throughout the store preventing them from shopping efficiently. I horde up all these "sweet" items so no other customer can buy them. Perhaps I'll even set up a shop to sell these items at ridiculously high prices. I can even run around the populated areas of Walmart screaming at the top of my lungs telling customers to visit http://www.prometheuswalmart.com to buy all these goods or whatever.

Does Walmart have any reason, financially, to ban me? I'm still paying walmart for goods I buy, but I'm preventing others from paying. In SRO, legits might want to pay for silk, but refuse to because of the bot problem.

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:58 pm

No, Walmart does not have a reason to ban you. Understand, it's about money. If you were ACTUALLY able to buy EVERYTHING others were going to buy before they could buy it, they'd still be making the same amount of money. Your analogy is off. What you are describing is what Wal-Mart does to small-town, locally-owned businesses

Anyways, I understand your frustration. I just think that, typically people who PAY for bots will have enough money to PAY for silk. Thus, joymax can make double the money (btw, I'm convinced they're linked to bot369 who makes isro). So, for joymax, they can have it both ways. They make money from those legits that want to buy silk (in fact, they encourage buying silk by giving logon advantage to premium ticket holders) and if they are in financial ties with the makers of isro, then they can get a cut of that as well. They can say "we are banning bots" and ban all those who use the free, and usually hacker, bots so people go "Yippeee! finally!" but those who use isro are fine.

In your analogy, if Wal-Mart were tied to a company that sold to you the special power to allow you to buy faster than other customers sometimes, they wouldn't stop that, would they? They'd make money from legit shoppers, as well as those buying their stuff with the "special power" AND they get a cut from the fee those "special powers" customer are charged. makes financial sense to me....I mean, afterall SRO is a "free" online game right?

solidsnake · Post by **solidsnake** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:22 pm

PR0METHEUS wrote:
sirdingydang wrote:also, if you are botting and always buying silk as well, they have no reason - financially - to ban you...with a history of buying silk, that would be a lost customer.

I shop at Walmart every week to do grocery shopping and buy other things. So I'm a regular paying customer. So let's say every time I go to walmart, I see another customer approaching an item they want to buy. So I run faster than them, grab that item, and run away. Do this for every customer I see throughout the store preventing them from shopping efficiently. I horde up all these "sweet" items so no other customer can buy them. Perhaps I'll even set up a shop to sell these items at ridiculously high prices. I can even run around the populated areas of Walmart screaming at the top of my lungs telling customers to visit http://www.prometheuswalmart.com to buy all these goods or whatever.

Does Walmart have any reason, financially, to ban me? I'm still paying walmart for goods I buy, but I'm preventing others from paying. In SRO, legits might want to pay for silk, but refuse to because of the bot problem.

That has to be the worst analogy I have ever seen. Being a walmart customer and botting in silkroad aren't even close to the same thing. Botters aren't reselling silk items, either. They are reselling GOLD. People need to break out of this "omgz all the mobz near me are all minez!!! GTFO!!!1" mentality. If you see a bot near you, just move, thats what I do, and this doesn't stress me out in the least.

Joymax has zero incentive to ban bots, other than people's complaints. But guess what? Joymax is in Korea, not the US, so they don't really care how much we complain. This isn't warcraft, and Joymax isn't Blizzard, i.e., they don't have the capital to completely wipe out botting like Blizzard does.

Hell, they can't even use proper english, wtf makes you think they will wipe out botting? :wink:

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:31 pm

LMFAO

Can't speak english hahahaha

Anyways, my whole point is this: bots aren't going to be totally eliminated. They may reduce in numbers, sure. But the idea that all bots will be gone is like saying a new immigration bill will get rid of "illegal" immigrants in the US. We all know that isn't going to happen. The difference here, with me personally, is I don't really want to get rid of all the illegal immigrants

PR0METHEUS · Post by **PR0METHEUS** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:55 pm

solidsnake wrote:That has to be the worst analogy I have ever seen. Being a walmart customer and botting in silkroad aren't even close to the same thing. Botters aren't reselling silk items, either. They are reselling GOLD. People need to break out of this "omgz all the mobz near me are all minez!!! GTFO!!!1" mentality. If you see a bot near you, just move, thats what I do, and this doesn't stress me out in the least.

Yeah maybe it was a bad analogy. As for moving if you see a bot.... Well if there are so many bots around in a grind area, it's pretty hard to just move to another location. The bots are everywhere. There's been several times I was at the mujigis trying to grind and I might be able to kill 1 out of 10 that I see (If I'm not KSed) because the other 9 are taken by botters... well often times 3-5 botters that are KSing each other. So moving to a new spot doesn't do much good.

I don't have that "omgz all the mobz near me are minez!!!!" mentality. Sure I'll attack as many as I can handle if I'm alone, but if there are other legits, I'll let some mobs go. However, I do have a problem KSing, especially if I can't even ask them to stop, or if they are in my guild or union.

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:06 pm

KSing is the biggest problem I have with botters. I really don't care if people bot. But if they are going to, they shouldn't KS. I know these programs, especially isrobot, have the ability to NOT KS other people. So, FFS, just check that box botters! geesh! But, in any event, botters aren't going away.

btw, I just farted and it smells AWFUL! :shock:

Drageath · Post by **Drageath** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:48 pm

Most bots have at least been temporarily stoped. Lets hope it either lasts a while or its permanent. It might even make some stop botting

(doubt it

)

agent420 · Post by **agent420** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:53 pm

what exactly is the definition of right away? an hour, 24 hours, a week, WHAT? i must say though, it was very nice to see green and yellow on the server choice screen last night. looks like its time to get as much grinding in while we can before this "RIGHT AWAY" window comes to a crashing halt!

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:32 pm

There are still bots, that's for sure, but at least silkroad cleaning a huge part of them just makes me fell happier... :roll:

PR0METHEUS · Post by **PR0METHEUS** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:49 pm

agent420 wrote:what exactly is the definition of right away? an hour, 24 hours, a week, WHAT? i must say though, it was very nice to see green and yellow on the server choice screen last night. looks like its time to get as much grinding in while we can before this "RIGHT AWAY" window comes to a crashing halt!

Some may disagree with me, but as I said before, I think it's a mistranslation on Joymax's part. I think they mean "do not use an abnormal client right away" as in "stop using an abnormal client right away." Come to think of it, that would make sense if, say, there is no present progressive tense (e.g., the word using) in Korean. That would mean you'd have to say "do not use..." instead of "stop using..." *shrugs*

Itonami · Post by **Itonami** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:10 pm

Hopefully they'll do this update once a week ^^

Not gonna happen probably, but hey.. they've surprised us a lot recently.

Post by **Ryoko** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:14 pm

we recommend you not to use illegal program such as bot program right away.

*Please dont bot right away.

Wait a little bit?

Droopy_21 · Post by **Droopy_21** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:46 pm

I feel bad for anyone who recently bought a new premium to log on easier. I guess it will still be nice to have the extra exp bonus though.

Will bots be back? I give it a week.

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:51 pm

Ryoko wrote:
we recommend you not to use illegal program such as bot program right away.

*Please dont bot right away.

Wait a little bit?

Looooool, nice thinking, i though that too >.>, the bots are still here*

(*The ones who buy silk...I mean i was in a guild where many botted and bought silk, and?, i still see them playing...)

kellinatorv1 · Post by **kellinatorv1** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:46 pm

The bot players are still there but they arent bots now
haha i saw so many turks swearing in globals rofl
or at least i think they were :roll:

any ways
as long as the servers stay at populated i dont care
its pointless arguing about it
just let joy max do their job
>.< even thou it takes them a while

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